fuel and oil pressure gauges

jurgs2007 · 03-28-2008, 08:22 PM

ok, so i bought some new gauges along with a pillar pod. i2 of the gauges i cant seem to figure out how to hook up... first of all, is the oil pressure gauge... where do i hook up the sending unit for it? same thing for the fuel pressure gauge, i cant find a place to hook up the sending unit. any suggestions?

nickofcourse · 03-28-2008, 08:28 PM

i dont know but couldnt you use the wires connected to the stock cluster and hook to the new gauges?

jurgs2007 · 03-28-2008, 08:30 PM

99 grand am doesnt have oil pressure gauge. only temp gauge

KhellendrosxS · 03-28-2008, 09:06 PM

Plug the oil pressure sender into the place where your stock sender is. Its above the oil filter and to the right. You need a special wrench to take it out though. Id suggest using a brass T fitting so you can still have the idiot light in the dash come on.

As for the fuel pressure gauge you need to get a hose to extend off the test port on the fuel rail and screw your sender into the end of it. You also have to remove the schrader valve or you wont get any fuel in your extension line.

gilzgrandam00 · 03-28-2008, 09:26 PM

D what oil pressure did u get

jurgs2007 · 03-28-2008, 10:13 PM

what do you mean by what oil pressure did i get? like pressure-wise or mechanical/electrical? it is a 100psi electrical gauge.

AaronGTR · 03-29-2008, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khellendrosxs

Plug the oil pressure sender into the place where your stock sender is. Its above the oil filter and to the right. You need a special wrench to take it out though. Id suggest using a brass T fitting so you can still have the idiot light in the dash come on.

As for the fuel pressure gauge you need to get a hose to extend off the test port on the fuel rail and screw your sender into the end of it. You also have to remove the schrader valve or you wont get any fuel in your extension line.

Yep, thats exactly what he needs. Oil pressure switch for the light on the instrument panel (idiot light) is a small round unit screwed into the block to the right of the oil filter and knock sensor and above the starter motor. A small brass "T" fitting with a brass extension on the end will give you room to mount both senders on either side of the T away from the block. I believe it's 1/4" NPT thread.

The port on the fuel rail is -6AN. You'll need a short braided hose with a female -6AN fitting on the end (preferably a 90 or 135 degree bend fitting so it fits easier), and for the other end you'll need a male -6AN to 1/8" NPT adapter for the sender.

lightningGA · 03-29-2008, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

The port on the fuel rail is -6AN. You'll need a short braided hose with a female -6AN fitting on the end (preferably a 90 or 135 degree bend fitting so it fits easier), and for the other end you'll need a male -6AN to 1/8" NPT adapter for the sender.

Is there any good place online to order the hose from??

AaronGTR · 03-30-2008, 11:16 AM

You can get it all at summitracing.com. There are some pre-made hoses you can find, but none of them would really fit perfectly and you'd still need some extra adapters. I think it's cheaper and they fit better if you just make your own. . Here's what you'd need.

1) some -6AN hose, probably 1-3ft or however long you want for where you want to place your sender, about $8-16.

2) part #SUM-220690, -6AN female hose end straight, $4.88. Or you can buy any brand you want for a little more $, or if you want a tighter fit to loop it back across the manifold get this--> part #EAR-812006ERL, Earls -6AN swivel seal hose end 120 degree, $19.95.

3) For the hose end where the sender will go there are several ways you can do it. You can get another straight -6AN female hose end, then get a -6AN male to 1/4" NPT female adapter (aeroquip #AER-FBM2725, $5.39). The sender comes with a 1/4 to 1/8" NPT adapter so you can use that and it will work.

You could also get a -6AN hose end with a 1/8" NPT male end on it (Earls #EAR-820162ERL, $10.75) then get a 1/8" NPT female coupler (Earls #EAR-991001ERL, $2.95) so you could put the sender directly into that.

Basically there are a lot of ways you can do it. You could probably do it with -4AN hose too. You just have to search around for whats available in hose ends and adapters and find the cheapest and/or cleanest way to install.

jurgs2007 · 03-31-2008, 09:58 AM

ok, so say i go with a brass T to hook up my oil pressure, what size is the stock sensor?

Malaclypse · 03-31-2008, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

A small brass "T" fitting with a brass extension on the end will give you room to mount both senders on either side of the T away from the block. I believe it's 1/4" NPT thread.

This.

lightningGA · 04-02-2008, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

The port on the fuel rail is -6AN. You'll need a short braided hose with a female -6AN fitting on the end (preferably a 90 or 135 degree bend fitting so it fits easier), and for the other end you'll need a male -6AN to 1/8" NPT adapter for the sender.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

You can get it all at summitracing.com. There are some pre-made hoses you can find, but none of them would really fit perfectly and you'd still need some extra adapters. I think it's cheaper and they fit better if you just make your own. . Here's what you'd need.

1) some -6AN hose, probably 1-3ft or however long you want for where you want to place your sender, about $8-16.

2) part #SUM-220690, -6AN female hose end straight, $4.88. Or you can buy any brand you want for a little more $, or if you want a tighter fit to loop it back across the manifold get this--> part #EAR-812006ERL, Earls -6AN swivel seal hose end 120 degree, $19.95.

3) For the hose end where the sender will go there are several ways you can do it. You can get another straight -6AN female hose end, then get a -6AN male to 1/4" NPT female adapter (aeroquip #AER-FBM2725, $5.39). The sender comes with a 1/4 to 1/8" NPT adapter so you can use that and it will work.

You could also get a -6AN hose end with a 1/8" NPT male end on it (Earls #EAR-820162ERL, $10.75) then get a 1/8" NPT female coupler (Earls #EAR-991001ERL, $2.95) so you could put the sender directly into that.

Basically there are a lot of ways you can do it. You could probably do it with -4AN hose too. You just have to search around for whats available in hose ends and adapters and find the cheapest and/or cleanest way to install.

So I ordered everything I needed from Summit:
SUM-230603 S.S. HOSE -6AN 3FT - $13.95
SUM-220687 -6AN 90 HOSE END SWIVEL - $12.95
EAR-820162ERL ST. 1/8 NPT TO -6AN HOSE END - $10.75
EAR-991001ERL 1/8 NPT COUPLING - $2.95

Come to find out it's NOT -6AN port on the fuel rail.
It's smaller...I''m assuming it must be a -4AN...can anyone confirm this????

AaronGTR · 04-02-2008, 07:35 PM

... sorry dude, that was my mistake. I was going by memory and I thought it was -6AN. It's been a long time since I used that port though, and -6AN is actually equivalent to 3/8" line and is the size I used for my tranny cooler. You are correct, the port is -4AN size. I had some extra -6AN and -4AN fittings in the garage and I just went down and tested them on the port. Good thing summit makes it easy to do returns and exchanges. Sorry about that again.

lightningGA · 04-02-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

... sorry dude, that was my mistake. I was going by memory and I thought it was -6AN. It's been a long time since I used that port though, and -6AN is actually equivalent to 3/8" line and is the size I used for my tranny cooler. You are correct, the port is -4AN size. I had some extra -6AN and -4AN fittings in the garage and I just went down and tested them on the port. Good thing summit makes it easy to do returns and exchanges. Sorry about that again.

No problem Aaron.

alerored04 · 04-09-2008, 03:44 PM

I have a few questions on gauges that i cant find answers to. I am looking at The autometer fuel pressure but dont know the differences between analog and digital other than the obvious? I want gauges but dont really feel like spending $200 for a digital but summit says that an analog gauge should not be mounted in the cab due to dangerous fumes. I like the price point of an analog, is there a way to use one and have it be safe?

What is the difference between this http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ATM%2D3311&N=700+ 400442+4294925227+115&autoview=sku

And this?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

cardude007617 · 04-09-2008, 03:59 PM

ones mechanical and ones electric.

mechanical is you gotta actually run a fuel line to the gauge...and well that has gas in the cabin then, same with oil pressure gauges....

electric is there is a sending unit where the device is you are monitoring and it sends the data to the gauge so theres no possibly mess inside your car or tubing that has to be run.

cliff notes-electrical gauges are easier to install.....by far

alerored04 · 04-09-2008, 04:09 PM

Thanks for the info, but that sucks, i was hoping to get off cheap. I dont think i can justify $200 on one gauge, there are lots of better things that i can spend that money on.

cardude007617 · 04-09-2008, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alerored04

Thanks for the info, but that sucks, i was hoping to get off cheap. I dont think i can justify $200 on one gauge, there are lots of better things that i can spend that money on.

ya, i could say the old saying "gotta pay to play", but there are some things that are worth it and some things that just arent...... is there a reason u need a fuel pressure gauge? OR could u get by with a wideband instead

alerored04 · 04-09-2008, 05:37 PM

Just wanted one. Widebands are more than that arent they? I looked at a plx and it was like $250.

cardude007617 · 04-09-2008, 06:58 PM

but a wideband is multiple gauges in one

03-28-2008, 08:22 PM	#1
jurgs2007 DFD Volunteer AKA: Dustin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dalton, WI Age: 33 Posts: 440 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan	fuel and oil pressure gauges ok, so i bought some new gauges along with a pillar pod. i2 of the gauges i cant seem to figure out how to hook up... first of all, is the oil pressure gauge... where do i hook up the sending unit for it? same thing for the fuel pressure gauge, i cant find a place to hook up the sending unit. any suggestions? __________________ -J-U-R-G-S- GOLD '99 GAGT: CAI, 62mm TB, tuned PCM, KYB GR2 struts, Intrax Springs,Sumitomo HTRZ IIs on black MODA 18's, C/F hood, TYC taillights, black HID Halo projector headlights, halo fog lights, 3" antenna, custom exhaust, red interior lights, pillar pod gauges, GT emblem on inside of trunk lid, custom upholstery of front and rear seats, Redline boots and arm rest cover,Legacy deck with kenwood system

03-28-2008, 08:30 PM	#3
jurgs2007 DFD Volunteer AKA: Dustin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dalton, WI Age: 33 Posts: 440 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan	99 grand am doesnt have oil pressure gauge. only temp gauge __________________ -J-U-R-G-S- GOLD '99 GAGT: CAI, 62mm TB, tuned PCM, KYB GR2 struts, Intrax Springs,Sumitomo HTRZ IIs on black MODA 18's, C/F hood, TYC taillights, black HID Halo projector headlights, halo fog lights, 3" antenna, custom exhaust, red interior lights, pillar pod gauges, GT emblem on inside of trunk lid, custom upholstery of front and rear seats, Redline boots and arm rest cover,Legacy deck with kenwood system

03-28-2008, 09:06 PM	#4
KhellendrosxS Im A Motherfuc*er AKA: Chris Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 37 Posts: 1,056 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT	Plug the oil pressure sender into the place where your stock sender is. Its above the oil filter and to the right. You need a special wrench to take it out though. Id suggest using a brass T fitting so you can still have the idiot light in the dash come on. As for the fuel pressure gauge you need to get a hose to extend off the test port on the fuel rail and screw your sender into the end of it. You also have to remove the schrader valve or you wont get any fuel in your extension line. __________________ GO: 28lb/hr Trailblazer injectors, Flowmaster 80 Custom Cat-back, Stewart Warner Maximum Performance Series Gauges, DHP Powertuner SHOW: Camaro Brake Upgrade, F/R Sway Bars, SLP STB

03-28-2008, 10:13 PM	#6
jurgs2007 DFD Volunteer AKA: Dustin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dalton, WI Age: 33 Posts: 440 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan	what do you mean by what oil pressure did i get? like pressure-wise or mechanical/electrical? it is a 100psi electrical gauge. __________________ -J-U-R-G-S- GOLD '99 GAGT: CAI, 62mm TB, tuned PCM, KYB GR2 struts, Intrax Springs,Sumitomo HTRZ IIs on black MODA 18's, C/F hood, TYC taillights, black HID Halo projector headlights, halo fog lights, 3" antenna, custom exhaust, red interior lights, pillar pod gauges, GT emblem on inside of trunk lid, custom upholstery of front and rear seats, Redline boots and arm rest cover,Legacy deck with kenwood system

03-30-2008, 11:16 AM	#9
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	You can get it all at summitracing.com. There are some pre-made hoses you can find, but none of them would really fit perfectly and you'd still need some extra adapters. I think it's cheaper and they fit better if you just make your own. . Here's what you'd need. 1) some -6AN hose, probably 1-3ft or however long you want for where you want to place your sender, about $8-16. 2) part #SUM-220690, -6AN female hose end straight, $4.88. Or you can buy any brand you want for a little more $, or if you want a tighter fit to loop it back across the manifold get this--> part #EAR-812006ERL, Earls -6AN swivel seal hose end 120 degree, $19.95. 3) For the hose end where the sender will go there are several ways you can do it. You can get another straight -6AN female hose end, then get a -6AN male to 1/4" NPT female adapter (aeroquip #AER-FBM2725, $5.39). The sender comes with a 1/4 to 1/8" NPT adapter so you can use that and it will work. You could also get a -6AN hose end with a 1/8" NPT male end on it (Earls #EAR-820162ERL, $10.75) then get a 1/8" NPT female coupler (Earls #EAR-991001ERL, $2.95) so you could put the sender directly into that. Basically there are a lot of ways you can do it. You could probably do it with -4AN hose too. You just have to search around for whats available in hose ends and adapters and find the cheapest and/or cleanest way to install. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

03-28-2008, 08:28 PM	#2
nickofcourse GAGT - Member AKA: Nick Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: cleveland ohio Posts: 346 Vehicle: 2004 grand am gt coupe	i dont know but couldnt you use the wires connected to the stock cluster and hook to the new gauges?

03-28-2008, 09:26 PM	#5
gilzgrandam00 All Custom AKA: Gil Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Conn Age: 40 Posts: 524 Vehicle: 2000 Grand AM	D what oil pressure did u get

03-31-2008, 09:58 AM	#10
jurgs2007 DFD Volunteer AKA: Dustin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dalton, WI Age: 33 Posts: 440 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan	ok, so say i go with a brass T to hook up my oil pressure, what size is the stock sensor? __________________ -J-U-R-G-S- GOLD '99 GAGT: CAI, 62mm TB, tuned PCM, KYB GR2 struts, Intrax Springs,Sumitomo HTRZ IIs on black MODA 18's, C/F hood, TYC taillights, black HID Halo projector headlights, halo fog lights, 3" antenna, custom exhaust, red interior lights, pillar pod gauges, GT emblem on inside of trunk lid, custom upholstery of front and rear seats, Redline boots and arm rest cover,Legacy deck with kenwood system Last edited by jurgs2007; 03-31-2008 at 11:25 AM.

04-02-2008, 07:35 PM	#13
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	... sorry dude, that was my mistake. I was going by memory and I thought it was -6AN. It's been a long time since I used that port though, and -6AN is actually equivalent to 3/8" line and is the size I used for my tranny cooler. You are correct, the port is -4AN size. I had some extra -6AN and -4AN fittings in the garage and I just went down and tested them on the port. Good thing summit makes it easy to do returns and exchanges. Sorry about that again. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package. Last edited by AaronGTR; 04-02-2008 at 07:38 PM.

04-09-2008, 03:44 PM	#15
alerored04 GAGT - Member AKA: Matt Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Prague, MN Age: 35 Posts: 702 Vehicle: 2001 Oldmobile Alero	I have a few questions on gauges that i cant find answers to. I am looking at The autometer fuel pressure but dont know the differences between analog and digital other than the obvious? I want gauges but dont really feel like spending $200 for a digital but summit says that an analog gauge should not be mounted in the cab due to dangerous fumes. I like the price point of an analog, is there a way to use one and have it be safe? What is the difference between this http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ATM%2D3311&N=700+ 400442+4294925227+115&autoview=sku And this? http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku __________________ Lots of mods cost lots of $$ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2598719/1

04-09-2008, 03:59 PM	#16
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	ones mechanical and ones electric. mechanical is you gotta actually run a fuel line to the gauge...and well that has gas in the cabin then, same with oil pressure gauges.... electric is there is a sending unit where the device is you are monitoring and it sends the data to the gauge so theres no possibly mess inside your car or tubing that has to be run. cliff notes-electrical gauges are easier to install.....by far __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

04-09-2008, 04:09 PM	#17
alerored04 GAGT - Member AKA: Matt Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Prague, MN Age: 35 Posts: 702 Vehicle: 2001 Oldmobile Alero	Thanks for the info, but that sucks, i was hoping to get off cheap. I dont think i can justify $200 on one gauge, there are lots of better things that i can spend that money on. __________________ Lots of mods cost lots of $$ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2598719/1

04-09-2008, 05:37 PM	#19
alerored04 GAGT - Member AKA: Matt Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Prague, MN Age: 35 Posts: 702 Vehicle: 2001 Oldmobile Alero	Just wanted one. Widebands are more than that arent they? I looked at a plx and it was like $250. __________________ Lots of mods cost lots of $$ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2598719/1

04-09-2008, 06:58 PM	#20
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	but a wideband is multiple gauges in one __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

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