Ford Sucks Ass

Mike3800 · 09-18-2003, 11:48 AM

I needed to buy a cheap car at the beginning of this year. So I reasoned to myself... "Doesn’t matter what it is as long as it's in good shape, it cheap and easy to work on". So I looked at a 1990 Ford Probe LX 5-speed with a 3.0 V6. It has good power, was in good shape, only minor dings, no rust and it was dirt cheap. I brought it home to my wife on the test drive.... she looks at it, then looks at me and says... "Michael... it's a Ford." I said "I know, but they aren't really that bad as I have always said, besides... it's easy to work on.. it's an OHV V6, the engine is the same as in the bas Taurus from 1989 to 1997" My wife says... "OOOOOK" So... like a dummy I buy it. I think ONE month has gone buy that I didn't have to fix something on it. It's not just that. BS... it's NOT easy to work on... The alternator recently died on it. I had to take out the damn washer fluid/coolant bottle (molded together) I had to disconnect the power steering high pressure and return lines, I had to take of the belt tensioner after removing the belt, ZI had to disconnect the air conditioning lines from the chassis, I had to loosen the radiator and move it up and back a little, and finally, disconnect the alternator had to be removed WITH the bracket assembly as a unit as the TWO FASTENERS to remove the piece of **** were not accessible any other way. Then with the assembly out I had to detach the wires then the 2 screws holding the alternator to the bracket.

What MORON designed that thing? I'd like to personally slap the hell out of them.

No more Fords for my family, the one's we have had through the years have been all piles of crap, including my in-laws 2 broken down Fords, they have no working transportation right now and rely on my wife and I to take them places while their vehicles are down.

kubiache · 09-18-2003, 11:58 AM

Ford and Chrysler are the reasons my parents will never buy American again. Nothing but bad luck with them. Even while I was working at a GM dealership, my dad went and bought a Corolla. The only American car I see my mom buying is a '69 GTO. She used to have a '65 Mustang, but only because the one she bought cost less than a GTO at the time. Now she's got the money for it, so I half expect to see it in the driveway when I go to visit one of these times.

Mike3800 · 09-18-2003, 02:11 PM

I would buy a Chrysler before I would buy another Ford. I have had enough of Ford. Fix Or Repair Daily. Found On Road Dead.

Sternie · 09-18-2003, 02:58 PM

what happened to the hyundai?

Silver02EX · 09-18-2003, 03:08 PM

That's why you should look into a Toyota and Honda... I have a 83 Tercel for a winter car. had to replace the battery. I had it for over a year. plus I have the Civic for almost 2 years and nothing wrong with it *knock on wood*. I was thinking about an extended warrenty but seeing how reliable it was I changed my mind.

Mike3800 · 09-19-2003, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sternie
what happened to the hyundai?

It went bye bye. I haven't really disclosed all that is happening in my life right now. I will say I own a 1997 Nissan Quest and a 1990 Ford Probe.

Mike3800 · 09-19-2003, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silver02EX
That's why you should look into a Toyota and Honda... I have a 83 Tercel for a winter car. had to replace the battery. I had it for over a year. plus I have the Civic for almost 2 years and nothing wrong with it *knock on wood*. I was thinking about an extended warrenty but seeing how reliable it was I changed my mind.

I know. I'm stupid cause I know the deal and I still bought a Ford anyway.

For used beater cars that old I should have stuck with Toyota or Nissan, in that order (I can't stand Honda's, great cars so no offense, but I just don't personally like them).

SwtGrndAmGT01 · 09-19-2003, 11:42 AM

My ex girlfriend bought a Probe same yr and everything. The v6's are jsut complete garbage. She bought the car for $6500 and it only have 34,000 miles on it. The car look brand new, everything ran just fine. About 3 months later she was having some problems starting and everything, at this point in time I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. It started then it didn't. Was debatiing on doing any mods on her car. problem stopped for awhile So for Christmas, i got her windows tinted, white underglow, fog lights, and installed her systems, (my old one actually.) rims and tires(which she bought), and a muffler.. She started having problems again with starting it. Of course everyone thought the stuff I installed caused it. Of course I said it didn't because it started this problem before I installed all those things. So I changed plugs and wires and new battery and check the starter and alternator.. Everything was good to go. Then a month later problems sartin again. In the mean while we have taken it to the dealership 13 times and they say nothing is wrong with the car. So I told her to get rid of it, cause it was just causing soo many problems. So we traded it in for a 99 grand am SE But, All I ever hear about probes with the V6 are just problems. My other friend had a probe with the v6 and the transmission went out 33,000 miles. Then my mom Expedition tranny went at 17,000 miles Can u believe that. All I ever delt with problems are Ford's not saying that every Ford is horrible, but I have grown not to like them very much at all and, thank god I have never owned one. I have owned 3 grand ams already and a cavalier, , and very rare problems. knock on wood.

InspectorGAGT · 09-20-2003, 07:26 PM

My mother's been driving a '95 Explorer (first year of redesign) for 8 years now...it was fine for the first 60,000 miles, but now the thing's at 110k and has been having CONSTANT problems for a good four years now. The car I had before the GA was a '94 Camry, and it never went in the garage in the almost 3 years I had it. So, in the spring, mom's getting an '04 4Runner.

Vinaashak · 09-21-2003, 01:28 AM

rocketfast123 · 09-21-2003, 04:00 PM

hmmm should have got a 4banger tempo 5-speed. My friend has a 92 Gl 3-speed slow-o-matic for the last year and a half. Only things that went wrong on it was a fuel pump relay shorted out the pump ran 24-7 and burned it self out. his driver side window does not work. his car has no speed governor so he can still out run me when we get up to 100mph. It funny because his steering wheel looks like he is reentering the atmosphere.

GregFarz78 · 10-07-2003, 05:23 AM

I hate ford cars but I cant knock on ford trucks...my dads 98 expedition with nearly 100k on the clock has had ZERO problems, only thing he's ever done to it is replace tires and oil. When it comes to trucks I'll stick with american...cars is a different story.

ArcticGT · 10-07-2003, 07:28 PM

Im totally surprized a 13 year old Probe was unreliable, probably seen the garage as much as my 2 year old Grand Am (3 times in 4 weeks)

Mike3800 · 10-10-2003, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ArcticGT
Im totally surprized a 13 year old Probe was unreliable

Me to considering I've had GM cars 15 years old with more miles and twice as reliable.

Mike3800 · 10-10-2003, 04:14 PM

FYI I am at peace with my car. It's OK I guess, runs great since I fixed it... again. Kinda fun to drive too with a V6 and 5-speeds. I will live with it for about 6 more months... then NO MORE FORDS! (or Fazda's/Mords)

Tulsaramair · 10-10-2003, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike3800
Me to considering I've had GM cars 15 years old with more miles and twice as reliable.

i second that comment

09-18-2003, 11:48 AM	#1
Mike3800 GAGT - Junkie AKA: Michael Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northglenn, CO USA Age: 49 Posts: 3,394 Vehicle: 2015 Chrysler 200S AWD	Ford Sucks Ass I needed to buy a cheap car at the beginning of this year. So I reasoned to myself... "Doesn’t matter what it is as long as it's in good shape, it cheap and easy to work on". So I looked at a 1990 Ford Probe LX 5-speed with a 3.0 V6. It has good power, was in good shape, only minor dings, no rust and it was dirt cheap. I brought it home to my wife on the test drive.... she looks at it, then looks at me and says... "Michael... it's a Ford." I said "I know, but they aren't really that bad as I have always said, besides... it's easy to work on.. it's an OHV V6, the engine is the same as in the bas Taurus from 1989 to 1997" My wife says... "OOOOOK" So... like a dummy I buy it. I think ONE month has gone buy that I didn't have to fix something on it. It's not just that. BS... it's NOT easy to work on... The alternator recently died on it. I had to take out the damn washer fluid/coolant bottle (molded together) I had to disconnect the power steering high pressure and return lines, I had to take of the belt tensioner after removing the belt, ZI had to disconnect the air conditioning lines from the chassis, I had to loosen the radiator and move it up and back a little, and finally, disconnect the alternator had to be removed WITH the bracket assembly as a unit as the TWO FASTENERS to remove the piece of **** were not accessible any other way. Then with the assembly out I had to detach the wires then the 2 screws holding the alternator to the bracket. What MORON designed that thing? I'd like to personally slap the hell out of them. No more Fords for my family, the one's we have had through the years have been all piles of crap, including my in-laws 2 broken down Fords, they have no working transportation right now and rely on my wife and I to take them places while their vehicles are down. Last edited by Mike3800; 09-18-2003 at 11:50 AM.

09-18-2003, 11:58 AM	#2
kubiache Get blown Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 42 Posts: 1,858 Vehicle: 1998 GTP	Ford and Chrysler are the reasons my parents will never buy American again. Nothing but bad luck with them. Even while I was working at a GM dealership, my dad went and bought a Corolla. The only American car I see my mom buying is a '69 GTO. She used to have a '65 Mustang, but only because the one she bought cost less than a GTO at the time. Now she's got the money for it, so I half expect to see it in the driveway when I go to visit one of these times. __________________ Dave Woodward '01 GA SE --- 14.864 @ 92.61mph.....NA '98 GTP - NIC cam / P&P heads / 105# springs / Titanium retainers / INTENSE LW pushrods / CC Lifters / INTENSE TCS-300 / ZZP Poly mounts / RT 3" DP / PEMs / ZZP MPS 3.2, 3.0 / Wizair / 103s / DHP / AFC 2.2 .......still tuning

09-18-2003, 02:58 PM	#4
Sternie Back-to-Back Champs! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Duluth/Minneapolis, MN Age: 37 Posts: 247 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	what happened to the hyundai? __________________ Sternie's Ride - Updated 10/20/03

09-18-2003, 03:08 PM	#5
Silver02EX My office (up front) AKA: Wayne Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oregon- home / Minneapolis - work Age: 39 Posts: 487 Vehicle: 2002 Civic EX	That's why you should look into a Toyota and Honda... I have a 83 Tercel for a winter car. had to replace the battery. I had it for over a year. plus I have the Civic for almost 2 years and nothing wrong with it knock on wood. I was thinking about an extended warrenty but seeing how reliable it was I changed my mind. __________________ "My office is 34,000 feet high, you can have your desk job."

09-19-2003, 11:42 AM	#8
SwtGrndAmGT01 GAGT - Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hamilton,NJ Age: 40 Posts: 347 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Sedan	My ex girlfriend bought a Probe same yr and everything. The v6's are jsut complete garbage. She bought the car for $6500 and it only have 34,000 miles on it. The car look brand new, everything ran just fine. About 3 months later she was having some problems starting and everything, at this point in time I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. It started then it didn't. Was debatiing on doing any mods on her car. problem stopped for awhile So for Christmas, i got her windows tinted, white underglow, fog lights, and installed her systems, (my old one actually.) rims and tires(which she bought), and a muffler.. She started having problems again with starting it. Of course everyone thought the stuff I installed caused it. Of course I said it didn't because it started this problem before I installed all those things. So I changed plugs and wires and new battery and check the starter and alternator.. Everything was good to go. Then a month later problems sartin again. In the mean while we have taken it to the dealership 13 times and they say nothing is wrong with the car. So I told her to get rid of it, cause it was just causing soo many problems. So we traded it in for a 99 grand am SE But, All I ever hear about probes with the V6 are just problems. My other friend had a probe with the v6 and the transmission went out 33,000 miles. Then my mom Expedition tranny went at 17,000 miles Can u believe that. All I ever delt with problems are Ford's not saying that every Ford is horrible, but I have grown not to like them very much at all and, thank god I have never owned one. I have owned 3 grand ams already and a cavalier, , and very rare problems. knock on wood. __________________ http://www.n-body.net/registry/swtgrandamgt01/

09-18-2003, 02:11 PM	#3
Mike3800 GAGT - Junkie AKA: Michael Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northglenn, CO USA Age: 49 Posts: 3,394 Vehicle: 2015 Chrysler 200S AWD	I would buy a Chrysler before I would buy another Ford. I have had enough of Ford. Fix Or Repair Daily. Found On Road Dead.

09-20-2003, 07:26 PM	#9
InspectorGAGT Black = Proper Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boston, MA Age: 37 Posts: 259 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	My mother's been driving a '95 Explorer (first year of redesign) for 8 years now...it was fine for the first 60,000 miles, but now the thing's at 110k and has been having CONSTANT problems for a good four years now. The car I had before the GA was a '94 Camry, and it never went in the garage in the almost 3 years I had it. So, in the spring, mom's getting an '04 4Runner. __________________ - Alex 15.563 @ 88.31mph - bone stock 'cept the CAI

10-07-2003, 05:23 AM	#12
GregFarz78 GAGT - Junkie AKA: See Above Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Philly, PA Age: 43 Posts: 4,413 Vehicle: 04 Honda S2000	I hate ford cars but I cant knock on ford trucks...my dads 98 expedition with nearly 100k on the clock has had ZERO problems, only thing he's ever done to it is replace tires and oil. When it comes to trucks I'll stick with american...cars is a different story. __________________ My Pics

10-07-2003, 07:28 PM	#13
ArcticGT 6-Speeds of Fun AKA: Ryan Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Livonia, MI Age: 40 Posts: 631 Vehicle: '04 RSX Type S A-Spec	Im totally surprized a 13 year old Probe was unreliable, probably seen the garage as much as my 2 year old Grand Am (3 times in 4 weeks) __________________ '04 Acura RSX Type S A-Spec

10-10-2003, 04:14 PM	#15
Mike3800 GAGT - Junkie AKA: Michael Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northglenn, CO USA Age: 49 Posts: 3,394 Vehicle: 2015 Chrysler 200S AWD	FYI I am at peace with my car. It's OK I guess, runs great since I fixed it... again. Kinda fun to drive too with a V6 and 5-speeds. I will live with it for about 6 more months... then NO MORE FORDS! (or Fazda's/Mords)

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