Something new for the 3400?

kamikaz16 · 10-09-2003, 06:04 PM

PontiacGT2k wrote...

"The RSM doesn't work with headers. Wait 6 months, and you'll realise why the RSM and Eaton aren't really worth it.....there's going to be a new option, that works with headers."

???

Turbo, SC, or what?

No teasing man!!!

iceman · 10-09-2003, 06:08 PM

aleroboy is doing a SC kit with a twin screw SC.

kamikaz16 · 10-09-2003, 06:11 PM

Explanify that, please

What kind of SC is the GTP's SC? And whats the difference between the centrifugal SC's we have now and what's to come?

iceman · 10-09-2003, 06:23 PM

go find the thread where he talks alllll about it

clark75 · 10-09-2003, 08:04 PM

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showt...0&pagenumber=1

PontiacGT2K · 10-10-2003, 07:54 AM

The twin-screw is...well....the most efficient SC. I'm not going into details....but it's going to be good. Twin-screw puts out insane amounts of boost right off the line, has good temperature (don't need an intercooler), and is easy to push more boost through through a pully swap.

The GTP uses a roots style Eaton M90....which is nice and all, but I've seen a few GTP guys switch to twin-screw as an upgrade SC.

The Eaton SC that a lot of guys on here have is a roots.

The RSM SC is a Centrifugal (sometimes known as Vortech).

They all have their ups and downs.......Centrifugals usually spool up slowly, only creating boost at higher rpms, but have very cool air coming out of its' turbine. It's sorta like a turbo cut in half, and doesn't run off of exhaust.

Roots gives good boost off the line, but usually yields very hot air. Not a good thing, but can be fixed by using an intercooler.

PontiacGT2K · 10-10-2003, 07:56 AM

As for details, I'll let Aleroboy talk about it....I don't know what's common knowledge and what's a secret.

phantom505 · 10-10-2003, 09:37 AM

Well there's a bunch of stuff coming out really.

aleroboy's twin screw SC
HPP's turbo (hardware is together, trying to get software for the computer, if not alcohol injected or low boost will be options if you ask for it)
It looks a lot like we finally got someone to work on our tranny, I'm working the details out now.
I have motor mounts made of a more rigid material on the way.
FDP just turned out a sick set of heads for me
Comp might be getting us a cam someday
There is at least 2 other people that are claiming to come out with turbos at some point.

So there is a BUNCH of stuff coming out.

PontiacGT2K · 10-10-2003, 09:41 AM

Yeah I know man....I'm excited. Esp. about the tranny!

kamikaz16 · 10-10-2003, 11:42 AM

I read up on Aleroboy's twin screw...and with THAT much power, won't a tranny fortification be required? I haven't seen much available other than a line pressure increase with a trans cooler.

phantom505 · 10-10-2003, 12:07 PM

You are talking several thousands worth of mods if you go with Aleroboy's setup. It'll be nice, but be prepared to sink $10k between the tranny, engine/intake parts, and everything else.

That may seem high, but our tranny will not hold together with that much torque on the bottom end when you launch. That is the easiest way to kill a tranny.

PontiacGT2K · 10-10-2003, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phantom505
You are talking several thousands worth of mods if you go with Aleroboy's setup. It'll be nice, but be prepared to sink $10k between the tranny, engine/intake parts, and everything else.

Yep....it willl be about that much, maybe a bit more.

coupe · 10-10-2003, 02:03 PM

Drooling......

10-09-2003, 06:04 PM	#1
kamikaz16 Toasty Chicken Join Date: May 2003 Location: Daytona Beach, FL / Upper Marlboro, MD Age: 38 Posts: 318 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1	Something new for the 3400? PontiacGT2k wrote... "The RSM doesn't work with headers. Wait 6 months, and you'll realise why the RSM and Eaton aren't really worth it.....there's going to be a new option, that works with headers." ??? Turbo, SC, or what? No teasing man!!! __________________ My CarDomain Page 15.453 @ 86.44 <--SLP, bad spark plugs, a dirty air filter, and a leaking PCV vacuum tube 15.734 @ 86.57 <--stock Embry-Riddle Muscle Car Association

10-09-2003, 06:08 PM	#2
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10-09-2003, 06:11 PM	#3
kamikaz16 Toasty Chicken Join Date: May 2003 Location: Daytona Beach, FL / Upper Marlboro, MD Age: 38 Posts: 318 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1	Explanify that, please What kind of SC is the GTP's SC? And whats the difference between the centrifugal SC's we have now and what's to come? __________________ My CarDomain Page 15.453 @ 86.44 <--SLP, bad spark plugs, a dirty air filter, and a leaking PCV vacuum tube 15.734 @ 86.57 <--stock Embry-Riddle Muscle Car Association

10-09-2003, 06:23 PM	#4
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10-10-2003, 07:54 AM	#6
PontiacGT2K It's coming... AKA: Andy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St. Charles, Illinois / Milwaukee, Wisconsin (school) Age: 37 Posts: 2,486 Vehicle: '03 350z Touring	The twin-screw is...well....the most efficient SC. I'm not going into details....but it's going to be good. Twin-screw puts out insane amounts of boost right off the line, has good temperature (don't need an intercooler), and is easy to push more boost through through a pully swap. The GTP uses a roots style Eaton M90....which is nice and all, but I've seen a few GTP guys switch to twin-screw as an upgrade SC. The Eaton SC that a lot of guys on here have is a roots. The RSM SC is a Centrifugal (sometimes known as Vortech). They all have their ups and downs.......Centrifugals usually spool up slowly, only creating boost at higher rpms, but have very cool air coming out of its' turbine. It's sorta like a turbo cut in half, and doesn't run off of exhaust. Roots gives good boost off the line, but usually yields very hot air. Not a good thing, but can be fixed by using an intercooler. __________________ Team GMCI "Get the ambulance, my stomach fell out."

10-10-2003, 07:56 AM	#7
PontiacGT2K It's coming... AKA: Andy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St. Charles, Illinois / Milwaukee, Wisconsin (school) Age: 37 Posts: 2,486 Vehicle: '03 350z Touring	As for details, I'll let Aleroboy talk about it....I don't know what's common knowledge and what's a secret. __________________ Team GMCI "Get the ambulance, my stomach fell out."

10-10-2003, 09:37 AM	#8
phantom505 GAGTurbo Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Heltonville, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,576 Vehicle: '02 GAGT	Well there's a bunch of stuff coming out really. aleroboy's twin screw SC HPP's turbo (hardware is together, trying to get software for the computer, if not alcohol injected or low boost will be options if you ask for it) It looks a lot like we finally got someone to work on our tranny, I'm working the details out now. I have motor mounts made of a more rigid material on the way. FDP just turned out a sick set of heads for me Comp might be getting us a cam someday There is at least 2 other people that are claiming to come out with turbos at some point. So there is a BUNCH of stuff coming out. __________________ It's ugly, and turbocharged! 264 HP and 284 ft/lbs at the wheels(@9psi), power curve like none other! And the transaxle to make it all work!

10-10-2003, 09:41 AM	#9
PontiacGT2K It's coming... AKA: Andy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St. Charles, Illinois / Milwaukee, Wisconsin (school) Age: 37 Posts: 2,486 Vehicle: '03 350z Touring	Yeah I know man....I'm excited. Esp. about the tranny! __________________ Team GMCI "Get the ambulance, my stomach fell out."

10-10-2003, 11:42 AM	#10
kamikaz16 Toasty Chicken Join Date: May 2003 Location: Daytona Beach, FL / Upper Marlboro, MD Age: 38 Posts: 318 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1	I read up on Aleroboy's twin screw...and with THAT much power, won't a tranny fortification be required? I haven't seen much available other than a line pressure increase with a trans cooler. __________________ My CarDomain Page 15.453 @ 86.44 <--SLP, bad spark plugs, a dirty air filter, and a leaking PCV vacuum tube 15.734 @ 86.57 <--stock Embry-Riddle Muscle Car Association

10-10-2003, 12:07 PM	#11
phantom505 GAGTurbo Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Heltonville, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,576 Vehicle: '02 GAGT	You are talking several thousands worth of mods if you go with Aleroboy's setup. It'll be nice, but be prepared to sink $10k between the tranny, engine/intake parts, and everything else. That may seem high, but our tranny will not hold together with that much torque on the bottom end when you launch. That is the easiest way to kill a tranny. __________________ It's ugly, and turbocharged! 264 HP and 284 ft/lbs at the wheels(@9psi), power curve like none other! And the transaxle to make it all work!

10-10-2003, 02:03 PM	#13
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