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Old 01-31-2004, 09:07 PM   #41
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I haven't seen anyone else mention this but while I was looking in my manual to find the LED equivalents for my bulbs, two of the bulbs listed have "NA" after the number as in "2057 NA". Does anyone know what this means? The only thing I can think is that legally they are supposed to be amber as they go in the front parking/turn signals and front sidemarkers. Or am I completely wrong?
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Old 01-31-2004, 09:08 PM   #42
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NA = amber , iirc .
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Old 07-03-2004, 03:10 PM   #43
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I'm new to all this LED stuff and I have a couple of questions that I havent come across through the searching process...

One, I understand that I need to put 6 ohm resistors in to make my LED front turn signals work at normal speed, but what I dont know are things such as....
- Where do these resistors go? On the wiring right behind the headlight, or somewhere else?
- Im no electrician.. how do I splice wires? What materials are needed?
- Also, I wasnt able to find a 6.8 ohm resistor at Radio Shack like it was suggested in the LED thread, but I did find some 4.7 ohm ones. First of all, one kind is labeled as 1/2 watt 5% tolerance and one is labeled 1/4 watt 5% tolerance... what is the watt difference all about and would 4.7 work instead of 6.8 or is there a significant difference? Should I just order some 6.8s off the net?

Another thing I would like to know is whether or not the LEDs light up while your lights are on and get brighter when the turn signals are on (like the stock bulbs), or do they stay off and only turn on when the signals are going?

I know, lots of questions there, but if you guys could answer or point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. I spent a good amount of time looking around the entire forum but wasnt coming across what I was looking for... thanks!
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Old 07-06-2004, 08:40 AM   #44
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Wow... still no responses. Where did everyone go?
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Old 07-08-2004, 06:55 PM   #45
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The wattage rating on resistors is how much power they can dissapate at any given time before they're overloaded. The Ohm rating is how much resistance the resistor has. Less resistance means a higher amperage will flow through it. Now keep in mind that Wattage = Amperage x Voltage. You need a resistor that can handle loads of up to 30-40w (i'm not sure since I don't know how many amps a signal-light normally draws but I'm assuming 2-3A) of power. Those 1/2w and 1/4w resistors you bought are meant for low-amperage electronics and won't last long if you use them for your signal lights. Look for load equalizers, they're the same as resistors only designed for high wattage needs.

Dual-filament bulbs will have 3 wires. 1 for ground, 1 for on-dim, and the last for on-bright. You'll need to splice one end of the resistor from the ground wire (likely a black wire or you can just connect to any metal chassis part), and the other end to the on-bright wire, whichever color it'll be on your car. This can be done at any point on the wires but might be easiest near the bulb itself. Most load equalizer kits come with splice taps that simply crimp onto existing wires so nothing complicated might be needed. If they don't come with any it shouldn't be too hard to find some or something else that'll work at a local electronics store/radioshack. Be sure to secure the resistors themselves to something too as the high-wattage ones have metal heatsinks and will be fairly heavy. Not something you'll want swinging and banging around from wires.

And for your last question, it all depends on if you get the right led bulbs for the application. Any 4-digit bulb # that ends in 6 (eg: 2056, 1156, 3156) can only go on or off. Any bulb # that ends with 7 (eg: 2057, 1157, 3157) are dual filament and can either be off, on-dim, on-bright. Led bulbs with similar numbers will mimick them.
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Old 07-08-2004, 07:13 PM   #46
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EXCELLENT!! Thank you for all of the info!! I didnt find any load resistors at radioshack, but I'll search the web for what I need. Thanks again Azrael.
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Old 07-16-2004, 08:39 PM   #47
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Alright, the response time on this thread hasn't been the best but here we go...

update...

I found the load equalizers I was looking for (or thought so) on ebay. Purchased them, recieved them today, and took a closer look at them... 50 watt 6 ohm. I just thought to myself, "****, the guys at grandamgt.com said 10 watt 6 ohm, Im screwed.", but I proceeded as planned anyway, being that I am one impatient idiot.

I installed them and surprisingly ran into no trouble. Everything seems to be working properly in the garage... a smile is worn as I strut towards the ****pit of my car to move it back to the curb. It's dark out so I figure, lets take another gander at these puppies, so I flip on the lights... looking good indeed. Then I decide to flip on the turn signal and walk back to the front of the car to witness the LED glory, but that was not the case. I watch in disgust as only the amber turn signal blinks. I'm not sure why I'm having this problem (as I have no knowledge in this stuff) so I blame it on the 50 watt load equalizers. Am I correct or is it something else? Ive got Super White 3157 LEDs for the inner turn signals and normal halogen amber 194s in the amber corners if that info is needed. When the lights are on and the turns are going, the 3157s are on, they just arent blinking... what's going on?
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Old 07-27-2004, 09:57 AM   #48
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LOL they blocked me from saying cokpit.

Oh, and upon further inspection, when the lights are on, the inner turn signal that's an LED IS blinking but only a VERY small amount brighter. Hard to notice it at all.

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Old 07-27-2004, 09:59 AM   #49
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right wrong load eq
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Old 07-27-2004, 10:01 AM   #50
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So where do I find a 10 watt 6 ohm?
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Old 07-27-2004, 10:05 AM   #51
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no wait...i read yur post wrong

here is what you need


http://superlumination.com/equalizers.htm

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Old 07-27-2004, 10:07 AM   #52
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Here is what I purchased off ebay..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWN%3AIT

Which looks pretty similiar to the link you provided me, is this gonna be the right stuff? I'll take your word if so.
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yeah thats it....same company too if you look at the names



thats what i used...then gave to Mel and she has em now
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Huh, well on the golden part of the thing it sez 50W.... I guess I dont know what my turn signal problem is then if thats not it. Funk it, I'm gonna go set my car on fire.

Thanks for the help Kdawg.
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did ya try taking out the 3157 and turning it 180 degrees then putting it back in
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Negative... I'll give that a try.

Do I have to modify the bulb itself? Ive seen "how to"s around the board on that and I wasnt sure in which instances it was necessary.
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Ahhhh hell, I dont have a clue.

I bought em off this store....
http://stores.ebay.com/Velocity-leds...isplayZ2QQtZkm

Doesnt appear they have any 3157s available to compare but thats where I got em at least.
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i didnt have to mod mine

try putting them in the opposite way you have em

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Ok, maybe im dumb or something but reading all of this has caused confussion in my head. I know of a guy with a 2001 Grand Am GT he just went to autozone and got several of the same sized LED bulbs. He did say however that they are all red and his blinker blinks fast. These are all for the rear. I dont want to do anything to the front of the car, I just want to use led bulbs for the whole tail light assembly. If the crazy blinker is too crazy for me, then Ill worry about it later. What size do I need and how many for both tail lights. Im going to clear out my tail lights so everything has to be red leds.
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