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GAGT - Member
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MPRacing Torque Link vs. Urethane Trans Mount
Has anyone used MPRacing's Torque Link or their Urethane transmission mount?
I like the price of his Transmission mount at $100 vs. Milzy's Transmission mount at $185 but it seems Milzy uses Delron Polyurethane in his billet mount and MPRacing uses Urethane. These are different compounds, with polyurethane being the stronger of the two (multi layers of urethane combined to form poly), but I'm not sure if its a mistype in the description and he's actually using polyurethane or not. I'd appreciate any input as I don't have much experience with engine/transmission mounts on N-bodies. MPRacing Torque Link: http://www.mpracing.org/store/index....&productId=389 MPRacing Urethane/Billet Transmission Mount: http://www.mpracing.org/store/index....&productId=508 |
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GAGT - Senior Member
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dont expect to get anything quick if you order from mpr
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With the quickness
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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im not going to comment on MPR
id say get the transmission mount and skip the torque link. if you go for the trans mount you won't even need the torque link thing. if your still feeling the itch for the torque link then you could probably build one for $20-30 in materials if you desire and save yourself some money. i got one of these when milzy first came out with them. N-body Billet Transmission Mount http://www.milzymotorsports.com/miva...t_Code=NbodyTM |
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GAGT - Member
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I've heard nothing but good about mpracing coming from aleromod and Mark responded within a few hours to an email I sent him regarding the torque link vs. transmission mount. I have seen some negative posts geared towards MPRacing, all that's doing is keeping him from giving us some good discounts and I'm all about sales/discounts.
Khellendro, I ordered Ben's mount last week and installed it a few days ago-it makes a world of a difference. Mark told me that the transmission mount will give me more of what I'm looking for than what the torque link will. geldartb, milzy's tranny mount is $185 compared to MPRacing's of $100---anyone know what the big difference is about? |
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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I once asked Mike the big difference between his and the competitors...and I forget the exact details. I know since the first version he put out, there have been a few changes.
I would give Mike a shout and talk to him about them. |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Looks like MPR bought some of RSM/Z-spec mounts and is reselling them as his own
Might as well buy it from the guy on ebay for $85 shipped and save a few bucks. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3400-...Q5fAccessories Personally, I would fill the front mount with urethane and spend the rest on the WOT-Tech Passenger Side Engine Mount or something else.
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Curse you Red Baron!
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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or you could go to a junk yard and try to retro fit a W-body front mount
not sure if it would even work though
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So you had your uncle in law custom make these parts by making copies of the RSM/Z-Spec is that what you are saying? Or did your uncle in law work for RSM/Z-Spec? If you look at the two mounts they are identical so you either bought them from the ebay seller and are caught up in a lie or you had your "Uncle in Law" copy the RSM/Z-spec design right down to the bushings and pin. Let me guess they only come with red bushings like the RSM/Z-Spec Mount. Gotta love how you get all defensive about everything and always attempt to turn it around rather than use good business sense or competitive advantage. Really looks good to potential customers. ![]()
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Dude, you are a total tool. I have one of the original RSM transmission mounts. It used an aluminum and urethane insert inside a factory mount, in place of the original molded runner and steel. The mount in that link looks NOTHING like an RSM mount. ![]() As for where Mark or the seller on ebay got their mounts or their design from... I can't comment. But I can tell you it wasn't RSM unless they managed to change their design before they went out of business.
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http://www.z-spec.com/3400enginemount.jpg I guess I am a tool and don't know what I am talking about. Knowledge and integrity guess that is a concept of the past around here.
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Im President Charley
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Actually "rsm/z-spec" changed their design AFTER my mount came out so if anything they got their hands on one of ours and then copied the design. So again stop with the bs and know wtf your are talking about before you bother trying to talk ish.
As for me getting defensive.. hmm lets see someone with no real knowledge of what they are talking about comes on saying they know everything about me and my company and making claims that I am stealing designs or reselling parts as my own design even though everything they are saying is false??? Can you give me 1 focking reason I should be happy about such a thing or for that matter why I should allow such actions to take place?!?!?! Didn't think so! So now if you have any REAL info regarding the questions posed by the OP feel free to chime in otherwise maybe just stfu and leave this one alone because I am seriously sick of your whining every chance you get about me/my company even though you never had anything to do with me/my company. I get that you are upset because your "boyfriend" doesn't like me anymore since that is when you started your BS but seriously I know with all that money you blow on parts you gotta have better things to do than hate on me... As for me.. I am done with this thread as I have said all I am going to say and if the OP wants to hear more they can call, pm or email me.
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BTW to all I have nothing but great service and response on everything I have ever purchase from MPR. I have recommended to many people... Marc was the first supplier I ever dealt with that called me (in canada) to help me out with an issue - NOW THAT IS SERVICE
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Fact: RSM/Zspec was selling this same mount roughly 3 years ago. (Note the Exif data on the pic from z-spec is 2006:09:18 15:09:22). Further note that MPR is using the exact same picture that Z-spec has on their site and the one of z-spec has on his ebay listing. So Mark, you still want to contest that they stole your design? You aren't fooling anyone but yourself, but keep living in denial I am not the only one that is tired of your lies and trying to turn the tables around on people when you get called out. I bet they also copied your strut bars and aternator pulley design. Quote:
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In the business world you will find if you offer excellent customer service people will pay slightly higher prices. When people feel that they are lied to, shipping times are excessive and excuses are given people.... tend to go elsewhere. That is your choice, but I think I have made my point.
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"The world's best cam combined with a poor set of heads will produce an engine that's a dog. But bolt on a set of great heads even with a poor cam, and that engine will still make great power." ~John Lingenfelter Last edited by O1GAGT; 10-20-2010 at 10:10 PM. |
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If you really think you're so much better at business than Mark, then again, put up or shut up. Lets see what YOU can offer the GA community. Until you have stuff that is in direct competition with things that Mark offers you're just another person with a keyboard and internet connection. And you run your own business you say? How many people do you employ/assist you? What resources do you have? What products do you offer? Here's the reality: Mark is one guy. He runs his business by himself without anyone else giving a helping hand. Sh!t happens in every business especially when you're just one guy trying to answer every email and every voicemail and every PM when sometimes the services don't work. Every time I've had to call him for whatever reason I left a vml (if he didn't/couldn't pick up) and every time he's gotten back to me. So do us all a favor: Quit harping on Mark like you're so much better and smarter. WE DON'T CARE! If you want to brag, put your money where your mouth is. Otherwise go troll somewhere else. k thx bai
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Bimmer Baby
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Damn will you guys take your d*ck swinging contest to pm's! This BS arguing is not really telling the OP sh*t about the differences pro's or con's about the products he's inquiring about.
OP I suggest pm'ing both companies and make your purchase based upon how you feel. If I have looked correctly both have billet aluminum designs and poly bushings. The torque link is designed for a stiffer shift. It minimalizes the motor from rocking through shifts.
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GAGT - Senior Member
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I do not need to waste money to prove this when the pics are the exact same.... any one with two eyes can see this. Not only are the pics the exact same, but so are the tooling marks, photo angle and shadowing in the pics. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see this. The moral of the story is don't lie and say someone stole your design.
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