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Old 09-06-2010, 09:32 AM   #41
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looks like slip fits and band clamps. you do mean the crossover and the ypipe right?
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Old 09-06-2010, 12:03 PM   #42
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yea the crossever and the rear mani come down to the y-pipe and it looks like a slip fit but didnt know if i needed to weld them or use clamps.
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:31 PM   #43
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A little insight for those who wanna debate the value of coatings: I just found out today that I have a dime sized hole rotted away from my non-coated S&S headers. They've been on the car for at least a couple years. Now I have the fun task of getting new headers on a car that I really hadn't planned on getting new mod parts for :/
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:33 AM   #44
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while on the subject of coating, how much should i expect to pay for the good heat shielding type of silver-ceramic, inside and out?
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:58 AM   #45
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All uncoated steel headers will rust over time. Even coated headers can rust through if the coating gets scratched off or is severely overheated.

If they aren't thin all over, you could have them sandblasted or chemically cleaned and replace the bad section. That would be cheaper than buying a new set. Not much can be done if they are heavily rusted everywhere.
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:39 AM   #46
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wow where were theses 6 years ago when i had a grandam
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:52 AM   #47
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wow where were theses 6 years ago when i had a grandam
Lol right
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:15 AM   #48
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I would consider getting them fixed but they have rust in a lot of places. Plus I'd have to remove them and be out a car while they're fixed...course I'm gonna have to remove them anyways but I'd rather have something to replace them with so the downtime is kept to a minimum. Realistically I dunno what I'm gonna do unless someone has the rear piece in good condition laying around they wanna sell.
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:10 PM   #49
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wow where were theses 6 years ago when i had a grandam

six years ago there were still other headers available that were better than these.



Mac, I got mine re-coated by Jet Hot with their extreme sterling ceramic which has very good heat retention. Total was a little over $280 including shipping and striping the old finish off first. Pretty reasonable really.
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Old 09-10-2010, 01:22 PM   #50
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finally some freaking headers. ill probably buy some of these in a few months and get the jet hot coating. ive heard lots of good stuff about the jet hot coating.
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Old 09-11-2010, 08:18 PM   #51
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i have posted many times about them, i even have a picture thread with them in there. over priced? not by any means. fairly priced for American made parts with American made materials built buy legal Americans at a reasonable profit margin. im sorry you do not like to support businesses that try and keep this stuff made on our shores by legal citizens. Id support 60degree guy too... if i couldn't make this stuff myself and better! uh-oh... but for real that is to come later when they produce a set and we get to compare my build quality to theirs, i hope its an awesome product that gives me a reason to improve upon my own parts. Time will tell.

and mark, let us all know how those pacesetters pan out, i fear their normal ill fitting pita to install and keep from leaking from every joint normality will prevail. 349.00 is far to cheap for it to be manufactured by a person/company who even cares if it fits what the end user has. i think the china junk normally is better then their stuff. And ball socket?? this is 2010 who seriously still uses lead lined gaskets and ball sockets? we have progressed so much yet these header companies still think this is the 70's.
What's you beef? You think we use anything inferior here? 16ga mandrel bends, 3/8's flanges, fully TIG welded with parts made here in Fl and three other states. Some of the parts are even made by people right here in the community (besides 60inclusive, or WOT), and we have the best stamped collectors money can buy

As for your second statement, I can agree somewhat. They are made by a person who sits at a welding desk, paid by the hour, and probably doesn't even know what they go on or what the engine/car looks like, never mind even installing them. But you are preaching to the choir about your headers, I'm not sure anyone here is looking for something that won't fit properly, break soon after install, out of budget, etc but there has to be a middle road
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Old 09-12-2010, 08:38 PM   #52
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Im waiting patiently for a set of headers from you john...sucks that im going to have to use the stockers for a while on the new engine
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Im waiting patiently for a set of headers from you john...sucks that im going to have to use the stockers for a while on the new engine

In progress We are making 8 sets this time so we can have inventory, so they are taking a little longer than usual...
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Old 09-13-2010, 09:23 PM   #54
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Sounds good just let me know via pm if at all possible when they are done
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:18 PM   #55
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pacesetter is looking for a local(phoenix az) g/a owner for some testing with the headers , if anyone is interested let me know
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:38 PM   #56
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Where did you guys place the O2 bung is what I want to know? S&S had it in the crossover pipe only reading the front three cylinders, did you improve on the location of it?
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:40 PM   #57
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the o2 is in the y-pipe so it reads from all
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