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Old 11-20-2009, 07:44 PM   #61
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If you guys are intrested here is my second last run. Had the same time of 14.13 but was 99.78 I think it was. Upped 2* in my timing and then ran the 100.25. My buddy Ryan missed the last run, too bad, wish I had that one. The car felt good once I got out of the hole man.

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Old 11-21-2009, 12:08 AM   #62
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If you guys are intrested here is my second last run. Had the same time of 14.13 but was 99.78 I think it was. Upped 2* in my timing and then ran the 100.25. My buddy Ryan missed the last run, too bad, wish I had that one. The car felt good once I got out of the hole man.

http://s823.photobucket.com/albums/z...urrent=210.flv
nice times! where in ont. are you from? and what mods are done to that beast?
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:43 PM   #63
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:40 PM   #64
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Ran a 14.89 @ 90.53 last night at Cecil County. Completely stock 3400 minus a K&N replacement air filter (if you can even really count that).

Only proof I can offer right now is a ****ty webcam shot of the slip. Left lane: http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/337/104623.jpg
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:43 PM   #65
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PA huh? is that a down hill track? thats stupid fast for a stock 3400
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:47 PM   #66
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PA huh? is that a down hill track? thats stupid fast for a stock 3400
It's down in Maryland. Rising Sun I think?
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:36 PM   #67
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Ran a 14.89 @ 90.53 last night at Cecil County. Completely stock 3400 minus a K&N replacement air filter (if you can even really count that).

Only proof I can offer right now is a ****ty webcam shot of the slip. Left lane: http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/337/104623.jpg


Yeah, sorry.... you are going to have to provide more proof than that to get on the list. I think I would have to see pics of the cars engine bay, the car at the track with the number on it, and pics of the slip with matching number and date. Maybe even video of the run.


Why? Because there's no way I believe a stock grand am did that time. I've been messing with these cars for 10 years and the fastest I've seen a stock "factory freak" do is around 15.8. High 15's to low 16's is normal. If you check out any of the online 1/4 mile calculators, just using the stock car weight of about 3100lbs and using an average driver weight of say 185lbs, that is 3285 lbs. Enter stock flywheel HP of 175, and they estimate a 1/4 time of 16.3.

I had a supercharger and over 190 HP at the wheels before I broke into the 14.8-14.9 range. There is NO WAY you have enough HP to do that with a stock 3400 and a K&N panel filter in a stock air box.
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:52 PM   #68
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Yeah, sorry.... you are going to have to provide more proof than that to get on the list. I think I would have to see pics of the cars engine bay, the car at the track with the number on it, and pics of the slip with matching number and date. Maybe even video of the run.


Why? Because there's no way I believe a stock grand am did that time. I've been messing with these cars for 10 years and the fastest I've seen a stock "factory freak" do is around 15.8. High 15's to low 16's is normal. If you check out any of the online 1/4 mile calculators, just using the stock car weight of about 3100lbs and using an average driver weight of say 185lbs, that is 3285 lbs. Enter stock flywheel HP of 175, and they estimate a 1/4 time of 16.3.

I had a supercharger and over 190 HP at the wheels before I broke into the 14.8-14.9 range. There is NO WAY you have enough HP to do that with a stock 3400 and a K&N panel filter in a stock air box.
I have a few in-car video runs, I don't think any were 14 second runs but I'm pretty sure I have some low 15's. I don't have a pic of the car AT the track, but it's in the garage with the number still on it I think.

Edit: Yup, quickest run I have on video is a 15.19. Only other proof I can offer is this screenshot from one of the videos: http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6550/59235873.jpg (camera was in the headrest sideways, but it's a backwards number 2 if you tilt your head, .) And I guess I can get pics of the other 14 sec runs, and snap a picture of the engine tomorrow and all that if that's what it takes.

Another edit: Pics of all the 14 second slips (warning - f'ing huge) http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5932/0000066y.jpg http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/8967/0000067.jpg

Edit number 500: Pics of the car/engine (also f'ing huge) http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7918/0000068w.jpg http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6398/0000069e.jpg

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Again, none of that is enough proof. You'd have to have 195 HP at the wheels to run a 14.9, and a stock 3400 only makes 175 HP at the crank. There is no way I believe you ran those times, not for a second. You would be running almost a second faster than anyone else with a stock GA has ever done, and that's not possible.

You could do it maybe if the trunk and interior were stripped out, you were using drag radials, and had a small shot of nitrous hidden in there somewhere. There is no other way. So either A) you are lying about what your car has on it, or B) there was a problem with the timing system at the track that night. Either way, that time is not getting posted to the list. I would have to see video of the car at the track, before, during, and after the run, with the timing board visible. That's the ONLY way I would ever believe that car ran that time.
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There seems to be a lack of full na builds around these parts...i need to hurry up and get the cash for mine ! Problem is im being a lazy ****tard
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Again, none of that is enough proof. You'd have to have 195 HP at the wheels to run a 14.9, and a stock 3400 only makes 175 HP at the crank. There is no way I believe you ran those times, not for a second. You would be running almost a second faster than anyone else with a stock GA has ever done, and that's not possible.

You could do it maybe if the trunk and interior were stripped out, you were using drag radials, and had a small shot of nitrous hidden in there somewhere. There is no other way. So either A) you are lying about what your car has on it, or B) there was a problem with the timing system at the track that night. Either way, that time is not getting posted to the list. I would have to see video of the car at the track, before, during, and after the run, with the timing board visible. That's the ONLY way I would ever believe that car ran that time.
I dunno what else you want me to tell you. I mean, I'll be honest here, I don't know jack **** about cars, let alone how to install nitrous or anything else. Besides, it's my daily, I wouldn't risk blowing it up or breaking it with something like that. Only "weight reduction" of any kind was the spare tire and jack and all that out of the trunk, and I think I only had around 1/8 tank of gas most of the runs.

These are the only videos I have with times on them, 2 15.19's and a 15.23.

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And not to bash on GA's or anyone on the board, but lets be fair here. 14's might be quick for a Grand Am, but are they really anything to brag about? Not really, it's not like I'm coming out here saying I just broke into the 12's or something. If I were lying I'd be posting a hell of a lot faster time than a 14.89.
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There seems to be a lack of full na builds around these parts...i need to hurry up and get the cash for mine ! Problem is im being a lazy ****tard
im having kr issues with mine or else id have slips. trust me they will come as soon as i can get my hands on an hpt
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And not to bash on GA's or anyone on the board, but lets be fair here. 14's might be quick for a Grand Am, but are they really anything to brag about? Not really, it's not like I'm coming out here saying I just broke into the 12's or something. If I were lying I'd be posting a hell of a lot faster time than a 14.89.

No one said 14's was fast. I'm just saying that is fast for a grand am. All the top Na times are from 13.9 to high 14's, and those cars range from one with a fully built motor running a 7k rpm redline and drag radials, to cars with at least CAI/headers/exhaust and tuned PCM's. Like I said, the numbers just don't add up and there's no way you could have really run those times with a stock GA. It simply wouldn't make enough HP to do it, no matter what the conditions.
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hey arron just to let you know my ga ran 14.8s at cecil county thats my home track my car was bone stock i have also raced at maple grove same car no mods and ran a 15.6 its the track its only like 10 ft above sea level its one of the fastest tracks i have ever raced at with all of my cars i'll try and see if i can find a video of me there
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No one said 14's was fast. I'm just saying that is fast for a grand am. All the top Na times are from 13.9 to high 14's, and those cars range from one with a fully built motor running a 7k rpm redline and drag radials, to cars with at least CAI/headers/exhaust and tuned PCM's. Like I said, the numbers just don't add up and there's no way you could have really run those times with a stock GA. It simply wouldn't make enough HP to do it, no matter what the conditions.
I know no one said that, I'm just kinda trying to prove a point here. I have better things to do than make up fake 14 second ET's, Lol.
My only theory could be the track/air. I think it's pretty close to sea level, and there was some damn cold air that night. I know they prepped the track well too, it was hooking up nice even on the Khumo all seasons that are on it now. My quickest run before that night was a 15.2x at Mason Dixon last year some time, but I guess you won't believe that either. =/

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hey arron just to let you know my ga ran 14.8s at cecil county thats my home track my car was bone stock i have also raced at maple grove same car no mods and ran a 15.6 its the track its only like 10 ft above sea level its one of the fastest tracks i have ever raced at with all of my cars i'll try and see if i can find a video of me there
that doesnt mean ****. im down here AT OR BELOW sea level in some spots. the track must be downhill
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well it could be i never actually looked into it being down hill all i know is im almost a whole second slower at any other track in any conditions
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