2nd Annual Noonan Meet

[DumpsterDamon]

Originally posted by Craig99SE2
I have a dream brothers and sisters. A dream where all the MGAC cars and all the 2Krucial cars roll down Gratiot bumper-to-bumper ...

that would make a collision shop cry with tears of joy, those are a lot of bumpers to fix

[white01]

Originally posted by MikeNT256
I just made note of a simple fact that we've have these "distresses" between the two clubs before cause something would be arranged within our former president, and then 2Krucial will be turned-off by it or offended. I shouldn't have to explain everything I say, but I decided I might as well for further reference.

mike don't take this the wrong way man. you were a cool guy to hang out with at the picnic last year and i learned a lot right along side you but mike mike sometimes theres more harm done when things are over explained. a lot of this "distresse" you speak of comes from people just talking and talking and talking and when people make comments like don't wanna offend you but........... so on and so forth. my .02 on things

maybe i can win the award for the SE with the most guttergaurd??? i mean i have it on my foglights too... oh and i can show every one a good way of attaching it too

[GTManiac]

ok, so I am joining the fray late, but here's what I thought and gathered from all of this.

First off, I agree that 2K SHOULD be in this thing. I mean Noonan is a pontiac dealership. Although MGAC set this up, we'll get props for the event, THAT'S our reward. MIGPC puts on MGM every year and invites EVERYONE, club affilliated or not to come, EVEN GA's. 'NUFF SAID there

To Kitty's comment: back it up and bring your ride. I think you'll be surprised by some of the cars in MGAC. I think 2K has VERY nice cars, I've met alot of them on Gratiot (sorry I don't mention that I'm GTManiac on here, but I've met most of you.), but so do we.

Josh's comment about being left out of the First MGAC meet: Well we've had many more besides that one. Where have you guys been? It's prolly cause it's a HUGE meet and it's ONLY the huge meets you wanna hit (I can understand that you wanna be a part of the big things we put on, but sometimes that shows a shallow interest, so don't be offended when we don't always include everyone), well sorry that one was MGAC only being as it was our FIRST meet. Don't you guys also have RESTRICTIONS as to who can be in your club? Something like ALOT (*insert 'SH!7LOAD' instead of 'ALOT'* for some people) of show and go items (dubs, tint, a system? something along those lines right?) Well we had some restrictions on the first meet. SO WHAT? get over it. If it really rode yer @$$ that much then you should have said it got over it, not bring it back up 2 months later.

A small simple question that in no way is meant to offend, it's just out of MY simple curiosity: "If there were no awards at Noonan, would 2K STILL be coming?"

Seeya (Jeff Ryder): yer right about a few things, but guess what? We may have had the problems (what club won't?) but we still hang together. Kinda different from disappearing completely and just giving up on everything and everyone. We're working on being better and it's this small squabbles we're looking to get rid of. You diss us for this squabble, but then again, WHY do you care?

Brendan: I like the idea of no awards, but I also like the idea of the awards, it builds healthy competition and reawrds those who put forth a great deal of work into their cars. Either way you go yer bound to have some sort of drama. People would complain if there weren't any awards.

To put this topic to rest ALL are invited, ALL can participate, ALL should get along. I plan on having a TON of fun at this meet and I hope that this squabble (this is lame and everyone should feel like an @$$ for b!7ch!ng about it.) ends. It's useless and I think some people need to check themselves and really rethink alot of what they said here. Shame on alot of you for having to be so divided over a piece of wood with plastic that is coated in fake gold.

[mjhurley1]

I've always said, "The More, The Merrier"

[athomas]

Originally posted by seeya
is that why mike and adam "resigned"? and why nikki had to speak up and and ask why she was asked to be part of the few who would lead mgac, but later not be included in anything? i'm not trying to make a big deal outa it... i just think it's too bad that drama and politics are pulling you guys apart.

I resigned because I had/have other ideas than what some club members did. It's not because grudges are held either way (At least I hope not). I do remember when we would all gather just to hang out and play A**hole. Those were the days! And you make a good point my friend. MGAC in retrospect should have stayed that way.

[GTManiac]

Originally posted by athomas
I resigned because I had/have other ideas than what some club members did. It's not because grudges are held either way (At least I hope not). I do remember when we would all gather just to hang out and play A**hole. Those were the days! And you make a good point my friend. MGAC in retrospect should have stayed that way.

NO hard feelings. I think MGAC is headed in the right way this time. We're pretty much a collaboration of friends and acquaintences who all hang together and play with cars. The drama has subsided and I think we're finally looking ahead to a much more fun summer and many years to come.

[seeya]

Originally posted by GTManiac





You diss us for this squabble, but then again, WHY do you care?

no diss intended... just an observation from an outsider. not that i do care, and not that what i say matters, but you guys have a good thing goin' when you're just out to have fun. rules and mandates wreck it for all.

[athomas]

Originally posted by seeya
no diss intended... just an observation from an outsider. not that i do care, and not that what i say matters, but you guys have a good thing goin' when you're just out to have fun. rules and mandates wreck it for all.

I agree with you to a point on that.... but I thing it's really the direction that you want to take. In talking with other car clubs, that are quote, unquote "successful", there are certain rules and madates that have to be in place. That is if you want the club to "Make a name for itself"....that's where I went wrong and didn't consider the feelings/opinions of others.

With the new venture I hope to get people involved from day 1 that are seeking the same type of things.

Again, no hard feelings in any realm. We just all have different aspirations.

[AaronGTR]

First, I don't think Bad_Kitty has seen Mike's car or mine either.

Second, I never even heard that Adam intended the awards to be for MGAC people only in the first place. I don't agree with that either and think they should be for everyone who comes. I also don't see why the 2Krucial people got so upset about it though. It's gonna be a small show (it's not street dreams after all ) so it's really not a big deal. Who cares about awards anyway? Problems been solved though so it's not an issue anymore.


I think everyone just needs to treat this as what it is. An oportunity to get together and have some fun. Don't place too much emphasis on this meet. I hope to see lots of 2krucial, MGAC, and just regular people with GA's and other pontiacs. It's deffinitly been too long since I've seen the 2K peeps. Anyone who hasn't seen my car in a while (or at all), if you can hang around until 5pm when I get outta work, I'll be by to show you my sick ride.

[Nikki]

Originally posted by GTManiac
Seeya (Jeff Ryder):

WOA!!! I had no idea...

Originally posted by seeya
wow... whatever happened to the good 'ol days of just getting to gether to have fun? having a "club" really wrecked it for mgac.

I agree!! But I don't think it was the club that wrecked it for MGAC, I think it was having the leadership...last year MGAC didn't have any Presidents, etc...and everything was fine.

But you're right JEFF...rules and mandates helped contribute to the problems...Adam just has different views on things.

Originally posted by athomas
False info??? HUH!!??

Adam, I didn't mean anything by that...I had talked to Mike earlier that day and he told me that was not the case...so thats my reason for stating false info...maybe I shoulda worded that differently.

Wow...I should show up here a lil more. It seems like I just read two months worth of soap opera digest in the last two days from catching up. I guess being a lil ghost was a good thing being that I would have hated to see all of the drama. I remember last year when everyone would play nice...it's kinda like Kindergarten (sp) you were just happy to see another person w/ the same interests. You didn't care where they were from as longs as they played fair and didn't hog the sand box shovel or the fat red crayon. Now in year 2 it's kinda like 1st grade you know a lil more about the world and divisions start to form over small petty things. Maybe everyone needs to take a nap every day again .

I trully do hope that this is all behind us...we are all (hopefully) mature adults and can tell when something is petty. 2Krucial and MGAC sould not be bickering over trophies and yes I think I can speak for 2Krucial in saying that we would've come w/out the competition...we showed up last year so we had plans to come when we heard about it this year. This will be my first major event of the summer in terms of numbers attended...as probably for a lot of ppl. Lets make this a fun day w/ no drama! Think back to last year when Adam let me use his lawn chairs. Steve had the triangle subs. Kevin was bumpn as usual. and somebody had a cooler w/ cool beverages(sorry memory is hazy on the name), C'mon ppl remember the fun from last year and lets erase the line in the sand and enjoy everyone's company again!

Sorry about the long post

[Craig99SE2]

Hey ... does anyone coming to the Show have a spare set of stock exhaust manifolds laying around? I know some of you have headers ...

PM me with a price and I'll bring the cash!

[quote]Originally posted by AaronGTR
[b]First, I don't think Bad_Kitty has seen Mike's car or mine either.



First of all, who cares if I have or haven't seen the kids car. I've seen lots of tricked out cars. I got the impression from you guys that you were afraid of having others compete against you, because it was all about mgac, at first.

[SilverEcstasy]

Originally posted by Bad_Kitty
First of all, who cares if I have or haven't seen the kids car. I've seen lots of tricked out cars. I got the impression from you guys that you were afraid of having others compete against you, because it was all about mgac, at first.

Hehe, they're both older than you kid.

Anyhow, lets just all put the bickering behind us, it was just a small misunderstanding of words, we all got it out of our chests (other than holding it inside and talkin sh=t behind each others backs). Lets just have a good time Saturday, cause you know thats going to happen regardless of what we say on here damnit!


Edit: Craig, what engine? I know Alex has a set of 3400 exhaust manifolds that he has laying around after installing his headers. Why do ya need em? Aftermarket ones arn't working out?

[SilverEcstasy]

Originally posted by white01
mike don't take this the wrong way man. you were a cool guy to hang out with at the picnic last year and i learned a lot right along side you but mike mike sometimes theres more harm done when things are over explained. a lot of this "distresse" you speak of comes from people just talking and talking and talking and when people make comments like don't wanna offend you but........... so on and so forth. my .02 on things

I don't know how, but I completely missed your post man! Didn't mean to ignore!

I know what you're saying, its just all poopy wars, who can fling the farthest ....no?...okay maybe i'm the only one hehe. Its all good, no big deal.

Hey, I'm not trying to make a war, I was just stating what I thought, but since they are letting other ppl compete, then I guess I was wrong for saying that.

[Craig99SE2]

Originally posted by MikeNT256
Edit: Craig, what engine? I know Alex has a set of 3400 exhaust manifolds that he has laying around after installing his headers. Why do ya need em? Aftermarket ones arn't working out?

Yes, stock 3400's. I don't have aftermarket ones. I'm not buying headers to just turn around and hack them up for the turbo. I decided to use HEAVILY ported stock manifolds instead. This way, I can port the sh*t out of a set and then swap them in when they are done to take advantage of them pre-turbo.

Alex - want to sell them? How much?

[AaronGTR]

Ok Craig, I know you and I don't always agree on things, and I'd like nothing else than to let you give Alex some money for his stock mani's, but I can't let you do that in good conscience, so don't take this the wrong way please. Before TOG's were available to us I talked to some grand prix guys who tried porting their stock mani's and they said they saw no difference on the dyno. Basically the cross section of the rear collector is too small compared to the size of all the exhaust ports to make it possible to increase flow significantly. They said that if you ported it enough to make the tiniest difference the cast iron would be too thin and might crack, and after installing Alex's headers and getting a good look at the stockers I have to agree. Rather than wasting my time on them, I'd just save up and at least get the S&S headers. They'd be way better anyway. Or just wait 'till you get a turbo. That's just my $.02 ok.


Sorry for getting off topic guys.

[Craig99SE2]

Aaron, The biggest concern is the port match. How do the stocker openings look compared to the gasket opening? Especially now that my head is ported to match the gasket. Also, with the turbo, I still want to do some mild porting to remove casting marks, nodules, etc.

As for headers, there is no way I'm dropping that kind of cash to sell them for 50% or hack them up. Maybe if I could find a used set for $200, but otherwise, no dice!