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VTECSiGAH8R · 07-09-2003, 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by 95-GT
well 1993Grandamgt....we can both see that people cant accept the fact that a 03 cobra is much more powerful then a f-body and just as well performed as the $20k+ corvette.

Yes, that's right, noone can see that the '03 Cobra performs as well as a Z06. Maybe because it doesn't?? Show me an '03 Cobra that can handle as well as the Vette stock to stock and I'll give in. Hell, try to find a suspension modded '03 Cobra that can do it and I'll give in. Then try and find one that can hand a Z06 it's ass in the 1/4 stock to stock and I'll give in. I'm so tired of this $ per hp crap. When you bought your grandam, did you only look at $ per hp. I hope not cuz you prolly got ripped compared to the allmighty '03 Cobra.

Panacea · 07-09-2003, 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by VTECSiGAH8R
Yes, that's right, noone can see that the '03 Cobra performs as well as a Z06. Maybe because it doesn't?? Show me an '03 Cobra that can handle as well as the Vette stock to stock and I'll give in. Hell, try to find a suspension modded '03 Cobra that can do it and I'll give in. Then try and find one that can hand a Z06 it's ass in the 1/4 stock to stock and I'll give in. I'm so tired of this $ per hp crap. When you bought your grandam, did you only look at $ per hp. I hope not cuz you prolly got ripped compared to the allmighty '03 Cobra.

Black Z28 · 07-09-2003, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by Panacea

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Panacea · 07-09-2003, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by VTECSiGAH8R
Then try and find one that can hand a Z06 it's ass in the 1/4 stock to stock and I'll give in. I'm so tired of this $ per hp crap. When you bought your grandam, did you only look at $ per hp. I hope not cuz you prolly got ripped compared to the allmighty '03 Cobra.

Vtec, I think you gave them a 1% margin there... See, it's one thing to be fast, but then to have the handling on top of it... Yeah...

Show us a Mustang that can do BOTH, then we may look up

VTECSiGAH8R · 07-10-2003, 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Panacea
Vtec, I think you gave them a 1% margin there... See, it's one thing to be fast, but then to have the handling on top of it... Yeah...

Show us a Mustang that can do BOTH, then we may look up

But then they might point out the 1999 Cobra R. But that's just something to laugh at right there. Ford made a N/A engine with 390 hp that couldn't keep up with the regular C5 0-60, in the 1/4, or top speed, and it prolly cost whoever bought one more money than the C5 and it had NO A/C and No radio. I think it may have outhandled the C5 by a little, but later the Z06 would be made which was and still is even faster in all those respects and handles better than the Cobra R.

So Ford's very special limited edition attempt to truely mimic the Vette failed in all ways, price, speed, and handling. And you expect us to believe that the mass produced (well, moreso than the Cobra R) '03 Cobra is better than the Z06 just because it responds better to mods and costs $20,000 less? There's a reason it's less.

Panacea · 07-10-2003, 12:11 AM

Do you think now is the time to bring up the 99 SVT Cobra?

1993Grandamgt · 07-10-2003, 06:33 AM

oh one thing we never brought up on here is the saleen S281E. considered factory stock as well... just like the ss camaro done outside of fords plant but still a factory tuner car. will outrun a Z06 and handle as well if not better... how about that and a more comparable price to the Z06???? now whatcha gotta say?

95-GT · 07-10-2003, 07:45 AM

But then again....I forgot that this is AMERICA....the home of drag racing, not sissy track racing.

VTECSiGAH8R · 07-10-2003, 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by 95-GT
But then again....I forgot that this is AMERICA....the home of drag racing, not sissy track racing.

Good point.

:rollmy****ingeyes:

Panacea · 07-10-2003, 12:09 PM

So, 95, you think the LeMans, or similar sport is for Pussies? Yeah, okay... whatever you say. Pass the crack pipe this way please.

Besides, the Vette has the best of Both worlds.

Oh, and '93, how much would one of those Saleens run?

Cause you know what? Lingenfelter can be considered Factory Option too...

95-GT · 07-10-2003, 12:23 PM

S281- $39,000.
S281E Class- $57,000 - 425 Horsepower.

I am also from MotorCity where dragracing is the biggest thing VTEC and Pan. Out here in Michigan, I dont know one person who likes track racing and everyone loves drag racing. Like in my sub, we have a viper, a 1900 horsepower SuperBee, a 69 Original Shelby Cobra, about 4 mustangs that fo 10's. A 9 second street legal monte carlo and more.

2002GT · 07-10-2003, 12:33 PM

Hmmm... I would take the 03 Cobra over a Z06

95-GT · 07-10-2003, 12:43 PM

I have to bust these out. Factory Freak Cobra: http://www.cybergeorge.net/mustang/500-MTIDyno.mpg

452.9 RWHP
432.8 RWTQ

95-GT · 07-10-2003, 12:47 PM

12.1 @ 119 MPH

http://www.cybergeorge.net/mustang/T...lcartmanHQ.mpg

1993Grandamgt · 07-10-2003, 01:10 PM

ZL-1 600 hp / 575 tq

what about that boss mustang a few years ago with the 600+ ci motor... something like 750 hp or so..

1993Grandamgt · 07-10-2003, 02:07 PM

95 GT what is done to that Cobra? that is a nice car!

95-GT · 07-10-2003, 02:28 PM

Its just a bone stock cobra. He is pushing about 550 RWHP now with a Magnaflow Catback, Magnaflow Catted X pipe, Nathaniel's Cold Air Kit, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, Nathaniel's Subframe Connector's, Lightning Upper Blower Pulley

1993Grandamgt · 07-10-2003, 02:43 PM

damn!!!! do you know the guy? thats a freak stock ford for sure

Panacea · 07-10-2003, 03:59 PM

So just because I live in Illinois means I heard sheep? Just becasue you live in the Motor City doesn't mean crap. It takes little skill to drag race. Sure you have to have quick reaction times, but that's about it.

It takes a hell of a lot more skill to road race. You have to be able to think ahead, adjust your speed at the last second, judged distances, etc. etc.

1993Grandamgt · 07-10-2003, 04:03 PM

by the way Panacea i used to compete in SCCA SoloII in my 88 GT stang... what credentials do you have again?

07-10-2003, 12:11 AM	#126
Panacea Mmmm Donuts. AKA: Macleod52 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rock Island, IL Age: 40 Posts: 3,160 Vehicle: '09 Malibu LTZ	Do you think now is the time to bring up the 99 SVT Cobra? __________________ "Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience."

07-10-2003, 06:33 AM	#127
1993Grandamgt YEPP I AM HERE Join Date: May 2003 Location: SOUDERTON, PENNSYLVANIA Age: 42 Posts: 337 Vehicle: 95GAGT	oh one thing we never brought up on here is the saleen S281E. considered factory stock as well... just like the ss camaro done outside of fords plant but still a factory tuner car. will outrun a Z06 and handle as well if not better... how about that and a more comparable price to the Z06???? now whatcha gotta say? __________________ MY NAME IS TONY MONTANA.......SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!

07-10-2003, 12:09 PM	#130
Panacea Mmmm Donuts. AKA: Macleod52 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rock Island, IL Age: 40 Posts: 3,160 Vehicle: '09 Malibu LTZ	So, 95, you think the LeMans, or similar sport is for Pussies? Yeah, okay... whatever you say. Pass the crack pipe this way please. Besides, the Vette has the best of Both worlds. Oh, and '93, how much would one of those Saleens run? Cause you know what? Lingenfelter can be considered Factory Option too... __________________ "Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience."

07-10-2003, 01:10 PM	#135
1993Grandamgt YEPP I AM HERE Join Date: May 2003 Location: SOUDERTON, PENNSYLVANIA Age: 42 Posts: 337 Vehicle: 95GAGT	ZL-1 600 hp / 575 tq what about that boss mustang a few years ago with the 600+ ci motor... something like 750 hp or so.. __________________ MY NAME IS TONY MONTANA.......SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!

07-10-2003, 02:07 PM	#136
1993Grandamgt YEPP I AM HERE Join Date: May 2003 Location: SOUDERTON, PENNSYLVANIA Age: 42 Posts: 337 Vehicle: 95GAGT	95 GT what is done to that Cobra? that is a nice car! __________________ MY NAME IS TONY MONTANA.......SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!

07-10-2003, 07:45 AM	#128
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	But then again....I forgot that this is AMERICA....the home of drag racing, not sissy track racing.

07-10-2003, 12:23 PM	#131
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	S281- $39,000. S281E Class- $57,000 - 425 Horsepower. I am also from MotorCity where dragracing is the biggest thing VTEC and Pan. Out here in Michigan, I dont know one person who likes track racing and everyone loves drag racing. Like in my sub, we have a viper, a 1900 horsepower SuperBee, a 69 Original Shelby Cobra, about 4 mustangs that fo 10's. A 9 second street legal monte carlo and more.

07-10-2003, 12:33 PM	#132
2002GT GAGT - Junkie AKA: Nick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Southeast Posts: 3,817 Vehicle: Charger 392	Hmmm... I would take the 03 Cobra over a Z06

07-10-2003, 12:43 PM	#133
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	I have to bust these out. Factory Freak Cobra: http://www.cybergeorge.net/mustang/500-MTIDyno.mpg 452.9 RWHP 432.8 RWTQ

07-10-2003, 12:47 PM	#134
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	12.1 @ 119 MPH http://www.cybergeorge.net/mustang/T...lcartmanHQ.mpg

07-10-2003, 02:28 PM	#137
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	Its just a bone stock cobra. He is pushing about 550 RWHP now with a Magnaflow Catback, Magnaflow Catted X pipe, Nathaniel's Cold Air Kit, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, Nathaniel's Subframe Connector's, Lightning Upper Blower Pulley

07-10-2003, 02:43 PM	#138
1993Grandamgt YEPP I AM HERE Join Date: May 2003 Location: SOUDERTON, PENNSYLVANIA Age: 42 Posts: 337 Vehicle: 95GAGT	damn!!!! do you know the guy? thats a freak stock ford for sure __________________ MY NAME IS TONY MONTANA.......SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!

07-10-2003, 03:59 PM	#139
Panacea Mmmm Donuts. AKA: Macleod52 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rock Island, IL Age: 40 Posts: 3,160 Vehicle: '09 Malibu LTZ	So just because I live in Illinois means I heard sheep? Just becasue you live in the Motor City doesn't mean crap. It takes little skill to drag race. Sure you have to have quick reaction times, but that's about it. It takes a hell of a lot more skill to road race. You have to be able to think ahead, adjust your speed at the last second, judged distances, etc. etc. __________________ "Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience."

07-10-2003, 04:03 PM	#140
1993Grandamgt YEPP I AM HERE Join Date: May 2003 Location: SOUDERTON, PENNSYLVANIA Age: 42 Posts: 337 Vehicle: 95GAGT	by the way Panacea i used to compete in SCCA SoloII in my 88 GT stang... what credentials do you have again? __________________ MY NAME IS TONY MONTANA.......SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!

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