The hottest car on the road

[WOLF]

Should still hold that record unless the New Ferrari "Enzo" Ferrari (why the hell did they name it that, friggin stupid, just call it the F60) can break it and I don't have the stats on either one but I do think the GTR is the faster of the two, and better looking too.


Oh, somebody made a comment about a twin turbo 427 motor, thats nothing. Somebody built a 440 twin turbo making 1800hp, Should be listed in either the GM Performance Mag, or the Hot Rod Mag. think its a 440 Pontaic big block, but haven't read enough about the engine so I'm in the dark on most of the stuff except the Cubic inches, twin turbos and its a GM brand motor. That's wicked. I do know there is a street legal LS-1 running at just over 1000hp but I haven't the slightest clue who its from.

Who cares about that though, I just don't have a problem with the Stang, its a nice cheap fast car for the cash. Spend 20grand on a Sentra that will do 0-60 in 7.2 seconds or spend 20 grand Stang GT and go 0-60 in the mid 5's. Huh, well thats a easy choice, I'll take the Stang anyday with a good V-8. It will out run a WRX for 4 grand less in nearly every way too. Don't know why you guys are hatin' on a Stang like that, atleast it isn't somebody bragging about their stupid Honda Civic.

[Irate]

Originally posted by Jason E
seeing as how the car comes from the factory with a SUPERcharger.

you might want to re-check that bud... but you guys can check out some cool Mach 1 stuff here Pat.

Originally posted by WOLF
It will out run a WRX for 4 grand less in nearly every way too. Don't know why you guys are hatin' on a Stang like that, atleast it isn't somebody bragging about their stupid Honda Civic.

I highly doubt the Stang will out handle the WRX

[Roush GT]

Originally posted by Macleod52



I highly doubt the Stang will out handle the WRX

ecspecially the rex STi

hottest cars on the road today

1. wrx
2. gp gtp
3. 350 z
4. corvette z06
5. new cobra
6. acura rsx type s

[jaketuff]

Originally posted by Jason E
I'd love to know how TurboSE's neighbor managed to shoehorn 2 turbos into a Mustang, seeing as how the car comes from the factory with a SUPERcharger. There is no turbo kit for the 4v DOHC 4.6....

Then again, what the hell do I know, I know jack about muscle cars

You are confusing the Mach1 with the new Cobra. The Mach1 has NO supercharger stock.

JOUT

[jaketuff]

Originally posted by WOLF
Should still hold that record unless the New Ferrari "Enzo" Ferrari (why the hell did they name it that, friggin stupid, just call it the F60) ...

There was once this guy Enzo Ferrari, he founded a small, highly tuned performance car company named - Ferrari.

JOUT

[VTECSiGAH8R]

Originally posted by WOLF

Who cares about that though, I just don't have a problem with the Stang, its a nice cheap fast car for the cash. Spend 20grand on a Sentra that will do 0-60 in 7.2 seconds or spend 20 grand Stang GT and go 0-60 in the mid 5's. Huh, well thats a easy choice, I'll take the Stang anyday with a good V-8. It will out run a WRX for 4 grand less in nearly every way too. Don't know why you guys are hatin' on a Stang like that, atleast it isn't somebody bragging about their stupid Honda Civic.

Well I don't wanna rgue with u about the SE-R thing because the Mustang is better, but please tell me where I can get a new Mustang for $20 grand. Lowest I've seen was $24,000. And please don't tell me where u see an SE-R Spec V for $20,000. I mean sure the completely loaded ones with sunroof and side impact airbags and the audio system and floor mats and all that crap go for almost $20,000, but the base is around $18,000. That's a $6,000 difference, which can afford someone plenty of money to mod the SE-R and maybe beat a Mustang. But more importantly, if u got a Camaro for around that price, u'd burn em from the beginning

Anyway, people here that are downing the Mustang are really downing the '03 Cobra because it's hard to see how someone can spend $15,000 over the stock price to get 140 hp and an upgraded suspension and other addons that would have costed an intelligent modder about $8,000 to add. This is all on top of the fact that the Cobras were repoted to have alignment, dampering, and suspension problems right off the assembly lines. And it's also a FORD (Fix Or Repair Daily).

Also, the WRX goes for $24,000 but can outhandle the stang any day and apparently it is cheap to mod the turbo or computer or something to get much more power. Of course the Stang still looks better, has a better sound to the engine, and the stock 0-60 times are the same as the WRX and 1/4 mile times are slightly better.

I still say go with an LS1 vehicle if u can.

[Jason E]

Originally posted by IrateGT

you might want to re-check that bud... but you guys can check out some cool Mach 1 stuff here Pat.

I have nothing to recheck...someone else noted I meant the Cobra (thank you very much ), not the Mach 1. Doesn't matter anyways...there is no twin turbo kit for the Mach 1...period. If anyone can prove me different, I'll be happy to eat crow.

And as for the Cobra vs Z28 debacle going on earlier, GMHTP magazine has run a 12.8 in a bone stock Z28, and I believe the fastest Cobra seen so far has run a 12.6 or 12.7...pretty damn close, eh??

[Irate]

Originally posted by Jason E
Doesn't matter anyways...there is no twin turbo kit for the Mach 1...period.

Mmm, wouldn't that be nice though?? Don't mention it around Pat if you find one, he'll start selling unheard of things like testicles and flip-flop trunk kits on e-bay just to afford it!

[TA^Guy]

Still cracks me up that FOrd was so upset about being pistol whipped by FBodys for the past decade they finnally decide to slap a blower on the car when they know damn well that GM is pulling the plug on the FBody. HAd they done this earlier you would have seen a NA LS based old school pushrod engine walking all over Fords sorry butt. DOHC is great, it's also real nice when you have to replace spark plugs (you think GAs are bad), and I hope you have real deep pockets when it's time to fix something thats broken (bound to happen with a Ford). Go price just a DOHC engine, you'll see what I mean.
Oh, and 'IF' the Cobra was putting 390hp to the wheels it would run fast than high 12's. And so far the only real tests I've seen are high 12's.
As for it handling better that a crock of crap. My buddy owns a Stang and loves them to death but was amazed how well my old Z28 handled and how stable it was at high speeds. There is a reason highway patrols all over auctioned off their stangs for Camaros. Plus a IRS axle in the cobra will be toast if it's making all this power they claim it to be. Especially when the kid that buys it thinks he's going to drag race a car with IRS. Can we say 'SNAP'?

[Irate]

... you made some solid points there john... good to think about. What's the story on the reliability of the fbod parts?

[TA^Guy]

Irate, all the FBodys I've had were pretty reliable. But as any car if you abuse it, they won't last.
I had one '86 Camaro with a LG4 and TH700R4 that needed a tranny rebuild after 115,000 miles. But then again I was 16 at the time and drove it like it was a race car. The TH700R4 in my '92 Z28 was ok, but not up to performance specs for me (shifted to soft of my taste) so I swapped in a shift kit. About all my Fbodys I had to replace a stater in. But that was after they reached the 100,000 mark. Nothing unusual. And I've noticed the fuel injected ones run warmer than carbed ones. If you rip off that lower air damn, say hello to MrOverheating, because FBodys are cooled by that spoiler.
Other than that, no electrical problems or any thing major for that matter that I can think of.

[VTECSiGAH8R]

Talking about these F-Bodiesw reminds me of something funny I saw a few days ago, and I really really wanna get the pics. My friend has this old Firebird and he had a different than stock engine in it. The engine looked really sweet, it had a Holley intake manifold, a new cam, better pushrods, lifters, cylinders, etc. with a 3" dual exhaust. That thing sounded really sweet.

Anyway, it turns out that the thing wasn't that fast for some reason, because when we were driving around with Static's GAGT, he could barely pull the GAGT wherever we would go, the GAGT was keeping up close. So after some hard driving around some back roads after school, the Trans Am guy pulled over and his engine was smoking. We lift the hood and he doesn't have a radiator cap on the overflow and the radiator fluid was freaking boiling!! and he was like "oh, my shoestring came off."

This was a reference as to what he was using as a serpentine in addition to his slipping half belt that he left on. So he pulls off his other shoe's shoestring and ties it up and uses it as his serpentine and starts her up Well, he was babying her when he went to go home where he could replace the belt, but then I see him pulled over on the side of the road after we lost track of him for a while and were on our way home. We walked up to the car and cheacked it out and he said that he didn't realize his oil was low and he seized up the engine. Now we wanted to laugh at this guy so bad but then again he needed help so we waited for a F150 to help us tow him home.

No big deal, he takes the car home for the weekend and works on it (this last weekend BTW) and gets it running for school on monday. So I see him Monday and he was like "man I got it fixed already" and I saw him in the parking lot, so I thought "goof for you."

Then I see his friend that was with him get in the car as the driver when leaving school that day and the roads were very wet and it was raining pretty bad. To sum up what happened, the next day he had pictures of his car laying upside down cuz his friend flipped the car and ran into a tree, and both of those guys were laughing: "the hardest part was when we unbuckled the seatbelts upside down and busted our heads." , what dumbasses. I gotta get those pics.

[Irate]

and people wonder why insurance is higher for men... even if we are "better drivers" sometimes

[jaketuff]

Originally posted by IrateGT

Mmm, wouldn't that be nice though?? Don't mention it around Pat if you find one, he'll start selling unheard of things like testicles and flip-flop trunk kits on e-bay just to afford it!

You bet!!! How many kidneys do you need anyway - the 3 grand from the sales of that organ might help me pay half my insurance for the first year on the stang!

BTW - I know the old Fbod will whip a Stang, stock to stock. But I like the sound of the 302, 351W, and 4.6L a lot more than the Camaro's L engines. Plus the Mustang is a lot more sturdy body-wise, it is easier to fit passengers, it has more trunk space, and it can be modified to beat a Camaro or an M3, or an M5 depending on $$,$$$ flow.

Comparing a the Stang to a WRX for handling is ludicrous. The Stang is not built for that. It is built as a straight liner. Physically, for the Stang to match the WRX closely in performance handling is amazing considering the Stang is front engine RWD, and the WRX is all-wheel mid, with a lower COG.


JOUT

[Red99GT]

Trans Am WS6 Raim Air, even though it is the last year for it, it is still the king of the road in my opinion

[Irate]

Originally posted by Red99GT
Trans Am WS6 Raim Air, even though it is the last year for it, it is still the king of the road in my opinion

hear hear... I love the firehawk's... and the collector's edition... mmmm such an orgasmic f-body

[note to self, remind self to debate battle between buying a used GNX or a used collector's edition]

[TA^Guy]

Hey Rob, I don't know if your big on the yellow or something but I actually really dig the 30th Anniversary Edition 1999 TransAm WS6. Plans were to purchase one in the near future, but the wife keeps showing more and more desire for a white '69 Camaro RS with hugger orange stripes and interior with a white rag top. So if she's serious I might not end up with my '99. Anyhow here is a shot of the 30th for ya.

[Irate]

To reciprocate: I know it's a pace car, but you get the idea...

As for those 30th anniversaries, I like those too. Something about that hood makes it all come together. Sure the hood doesn't add much performance and people moan about it, but when was the last time someone added a hood around here for performance?

[Irate]

damn broken links, I had to upload the picture...