HOW TO: Override DRLs on a GA - Page 5

armith · 07-28-2003, 08:49 AM

The problem with the 01-03 is that the wiring is a little different..

See the DRL override (grounding the wire) makes the BCM think you that the head lights are on.. and then the Ambient light sensor is bypassed and it always seems like daytime.. problem is.. there is another wire that goes to the light switch on the steering column. If you have the switch to off and all the overrides going... the BCM will throw a code because it will know you don't have your lights on..

(the way its wired is the reason why you can bypass the ambient light sensor and just run with your running lights to disable the DRLs on the 01+ models)

If I can get my hands on a 01+ local to me.. I will check out how to do it. and post up.

MJSilver00 · 07-28-2003, 09:20 AM

so then you would have to have the parking lights on all the time? that sucks! i was gonna say why not cut that wire that goes to the switch and just send it to a constant 12v so the bcm always thinks the lights are on, but ill bet its the same wire that actually powers the lights so that wouldnt work either.... unless you bypassed the bcm all together for the parking lights and then just gave it 12 on that wire where the parking lights used to come in....i dont know..im just rambling now...im sure youll have it posted wayyy before i figure it out. i was wanting to bypass mine for a long time, and thanks to this thread i finally have it done. now its worth it for me to go get some eurolites or piaas. thanks again

SikMindz · 08-02-2003, 02:36 PM

Well I lied. Finally got them done today as opposed to last week. A little bit ghetto 'cause I forgot to get crimp connectors so instead I used the U-ends and used the ends of those as connectors. Solid connection though...

However, word of warning to everyone else as dumb as me- getting the BCM back into the "slot" that it came from is a bitch! I got so mad trying to put it back in I just zip-tied it back onto the holder...LoL

Anyways, thanks everyone for the easy instructions and answers to my questions!

Brutis · 08-02-2003, 02:47 PM

i didnt take bcm out, just laid on my back under it and did it all, didnt even have to take out glove box.

SikMindz · 08-02-2003, 03:00 PM

LoL...damn. Big baller style. Too dark for me...

blake · 08-11-2003, 10:39 AM

...must of had a good flashlight...its too dark for me too

08-12-2003, 02:27 PM

worked like a champ!!!! no Drl's WOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!!

zhd1000 · 08-24-2003, 11:31 AM

ok i want what iceman was talking about on the first page,the relay, being able to switch from stock to the mod. but i dont understand the relay, what is it, anyone done this or have some pics??

armith · 08-24-2003, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zhd1000
ok i want what iceman was talking about on the first page,the relay, being able to switch from stock to the mod. but i dont understand the relay, what is it, anyone done this or have some pics??

you can use either a relay or an automotive switch.. Basically it will switch you from No DRLs/No ALCs to Factory stock (DRLs/ALCs on like normal)

No make sure you don't pull too much current across the switch the relay is a safety... But the BCM signals draw so little current that I think the relay itself would probably pull more just to make a closure.. (sorry if I am confusing you) I have made a rough sketch electrical drawing of how a switch could be used to go from mod to stock...

If you had the right kind of relay you could I guess even set it up to control DRLs/ALC/ and independant fogs.. But you really are talking about some detailed wiring and possible space issues and that could just become a headache..

Simple small DPDT switch couple $$ from Radio Shack and a soldering iron and your done. PM me or AIM message me if ya need any specific questions or need any help.

AznGA · 09-01-2003, 10:41 PM

So how can this be done on 01+ GA?

Brutis · 09-02-2003, 06:08 AM

no one really came right out and answered that question specificly, but from what i understand i dont think it will work for a 01, just 99 and 00.

armith · 09-02-2003, 01:24 PM

I haven't gotten my test car yet to try the 01+ override. There is a feed wire on the headlamp switch on the later models.. Once I have access to a test car I will post the 01+ instructions. Any local volunteers? :-)

Dj Red E · 09-04-2003, 05:19 PM

where exactly is that light sensor? i used to think that it was in the vent on the dash but i had the whole dash out before and never saw it anywhere.

UNCTYPE-S · 09-05-2003, 07:22 AM

its in the dash. at least on mine its in the center vent. its towards the left part of the vent.

Vintalage · 09-05-2003, 08:46 AM

So if I want to pull the relay for the DRL, I would access that from the hood?

Vintalage · 09-05-2003, 08:48 AM

Anyone know if it's possible to modify the DRL so that it only activates the high beam instead of both the high beam and low beam?

deadhorsey · 09-12-2003, 02:15 PM

Does anyone KNOW if this method will work with an 03? I got the DRLs gone just by pulling relay #22 (under the hood in the fuse panel). But the automatic lights still come on! I don't want to tear apart my car if I'm not sure that this will do it. Anyone tried it with an 03?

GTluver · 09-12-2003, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by armith
what year? the ALC bypass does just that.

And no SVS light.

dummy question, but what is ALC?

Vintalage · 09-12-2003, 07:56 PM

Automatic Light Control

GTluver · 09-12-2003, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vintalage
Automatic Light Control

TY bro

07-28-2003, 08:49 AM	#81
armith Itzall Pipe Dreamz AKA: Kevin Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Youngstown, OH Age: 40 Posts: 227 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan	The problem with the 01-03 is that the wiring is a little different.. See the DRL override (grounding the wire) makes the BCM think you that the head lights are on.. and then the Ambient light sensor is bypassed and it always seems like daytime.. problem is.. there is another wire that goes to the light switch on the steering column. If you have the switch to off and all the overrides going... the BCM will throw a code because it will know you don't have your lights on.. (the way its wired is the reason why you can bypass the ambient light sensor and just run with your running lights to disable the DRLs on the 01+ models) If I can get my hands on a 01+ local to me.. I will check out how to do it. and post up. __________________ 219,000+ miles on original drivetrain = FTW?!?!

07-28-2003, 09:20 AM	#82
MJSilver00 Riiiiight!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Northwest Suburbs of Chicago, IL Age: 45 Posts: 147 Vehicle: 00 GT Sedan	so then you would have to have the parking lights on all the time? that sucks! i was gonna say why not cut that wire that goes to the switch and just send it to a constant 12v so the bcm always thinks the lights are on, but ill bet its the same wire that actually powers the lights so that wouldnt work either.... unless you bypassed the bcm all together for the parking lights and then just gave it 12 on that wire where the parking lights used to come in....i dont know..im just rambling now...im sure youll have it posted wayyy before i figure it out. i was wanting to bypass mine for a long time, and thanks to this thread i finally have it done. now its worth it for me to go get some eurolites or piaas. thanks again __________________ ..."Do I look like a cat to you boy? Am I jumpin around all, nimbly bimbly from tree to tree? Am I drinking milk from a saucer? Well do you see me eating mice?!!!"... Last edited by MJSilver00; 07-28-2003 at 10:06 AM.

08-02-2003, 02:47 PM	#84
Brutis Hollaration Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 37 Posts: 56 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT	i didnt take bcm out, just laid on my back under it and did it all, didnt even have to take out glove box. __________________ Brutis

08-11-2003, 10:39 AM	#86
blake bob's back! AKA: blake Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: florence, sc Age: 36 Posts: 2,036 Vehicle: 06 xterra	...must of had a good flashlight...its too dark for me too __________________ eh. the cardomain of my old grand am gt

09-02-2003, 06:08 AM	#91
Brutis Hollaration Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 37 Posts: 56 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT	no one really came right out and answered that question specificly, but from what i understand i dont think it will work for a 01, just 99 and 00. __________________ Brutis

08-12-2003, 02:27 PM	#87
smoove99gase Guest Posts: n/a	worked like a champ!!!! no Drl's WOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!!

08-24-2003, 11:31 AM	#88
zhd1000 15.195 @ 89.82 AKA: Zach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rockton, IL Age: 36 Posts: 786 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	ok i want what iceman was talking about on the first page,the relay, being able to switch from stock to the mod. but i dont understand the relay, what is it, anyone done this or have some pics??

09-01-2003, 10:41 PM	#90
AznGA GAGT - Junkie AKA: YJ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 4,440 Vehicle: GAGT	So how can this be done on 01+ GA?

09-02-2003, 01:24 PM	#92
armith Itzall Pipe Dreamz AKA: Kevin Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Youngstown, OH Age: 40 Posts: 227 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan	I haven't gotten my test car yet to try the 01+ override. There is a feed wire on the headlamp switch on the later models.. Once I have access to a test car I will post the 01+ instructions. Any local volunteers? :-) __________________ 219,000+ miles on original drivetrain = FTW?!?!

09-04-2003, 05:19 PM	#93
Dj Red E Now REAL R*CE!! AKA: A.j. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Plainfield IL Age: 38 Posts: 34 Vehicle: 2003 WRX	where exactly is that light sensor? i used to think that it was in the vent on the dash but i had the whole dash out before and never saw it anywhere.

09-05-2003, 07:22 AM	#94
UNCTYPE-S GAGT - Junkie AKA: Jim Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 5,517 Vehicle: 09 G37x Coupe	its in the dash. at least on mine its in the center vent. its towards the left part of the vent.

09-05-2003, 08:46 AM	#95
Vintalage Hey paisanos! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 5,490 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT1	So if I want to pull the relay for the DRL, I would access that from the hood? __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT1 Sedan - Black 7000K HID PICS [SOLD to Jscarano]

09-05-2003, 08:48 AM	#96
Vintalage Hey paisanos! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 5,490 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT1	Anyone know if it's possible to modify the DRL so that it only activates the high beam instead of both the high beam and low beam? __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT1 Sedan - Black 7000K HID PICS [SOLD to Jscarano]

09-12-2003, 02:15 PM	#97
deadhorsey DeadHorsey AKA: Jim Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicagoland, IL Age: 40 Posts: 171 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coupe	Does anyone KNOW if this method will work with an 03? I got the DRLs gone just by pulling relay #22 (under the hood in the fuse panel). But the automatic lights still come on! I don't want to tear apart my car if I'm not sure that this will do it. Anyone tried it with an 03? __________________ www.myspace.com/ten32 --Be sure to send me a message along with any friend request, so I don't think you're spam!

09-12-2003, 07:56 PM	#99
Vintalage Hey paisanos! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 5,490 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT1	Automatic Light Control __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT1 Sedan - Black 7000K HID PICS [SOLD to Jscarano]

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