HOW TO: Override DRLs on a GA - Page 8

Vintalage · 11-04-2003, 12:20 PM

That is the 7 sec delay locking. When you hit the lock button once when the driver's or passenger's do is open, then the 7 sec delay locking is activated.

armith · 11-04-2003, 05:18 PM

As far as I know Disabling DRLs is not illegal in any state that I know of yet. Thats why GM has been lobbying hard to get a law passed to require them.

I respect your suggestion and I would even hope that you are right about reprogramming to bypass them.. I was just merely pointing out that the average joe does not have the connections or means to just run a Tech everytime they want to change something... But most of us do have means of getting Electrical tape, wire, and a screwdriver. I agree it is a good deal of work. and hassle and not exactly favorable to be cutting wires and what not.. But for people like me a $22,000 new GAGT or a uber-hundreds of dollars for a Tech2 isn't in my budget, $30 worth of tools and tape is.

I am interested to know if you are successful with the tech.. If it works please post and maybe we'll figure out how its done..

freeze12 · 11-05-2003, 09:56 PM

Re: armith...That is a very unique way of bypassing those. I wish it were that simple to modify the DRL relay like you did without getting an SVS light.. Good job!
__________________________________________________ ___
No... This did not give Me a Chk. eng. light or any other light for that matter. 2 years now & no problems. remember.... I said I have a 2001 Alero. I have posted this fix on an Alero board with some good results as this might or might not work for a 99
PS; A dealer will not disable the DRL's as per GM. If caught doing so they face some major problem's, law or no law.

CtrlAltDel · 11-06-2003, 01:24 PM

heh I suppose that makes sense .. car is like ... "hey ass ... fergot to lock the damn doors again!" ... heh thanks for the tip

Know this is off topic but what kind of stereo systems you guys got in your car?

Mine:

Eclipse 4x6's (fronts)
Eclipse 6x9's (rears)
2 12" Ultimate subs
Sony 760 Xplod Amp
Stinger 1 farad Capacitor
Sony Xplod CD player (cant think of model number)
Delphi XM Radio

dxtreme_85 · 11-07-2003, 10:33 PM

Hey Armith...I just had a thought for all of us out here with 01's. DRL's come on during the day and are a pain in the ass. So, to get rid of them, some turn the parking lights on, that way just the ambers light up. Follow me so far? This in turn kills the DRL's(right?) so that the only light emmitted from the front of the vehicle is amber. So, by cutting the feed line from the parking light switch and installing a switch at this point you know can:
a) Flip switch to closed position/turn parking lights off=DRLs on/Parking lights off
b) Flip switch to closed position/turn parking lights on=DRLS off/Parking lights on
c) Flip switch to open position/turn parking lights off=DRLs on/Parking lights off
d) Flip switch to open position/turn parking lights on=DRLs off/Parking lights off

See where this is going?? It would involve a switch...but it gets rid of those d*mn DRLs and it only costs $2.00 for a switch. Think this will work??

Vintalage · 11-07-2003, 10:43 PM

Look again. During the day, the DRLs stay on no matter what. Unless of course you remove the relay. When you turn to parking lights, the parking lights come on. The drls stay on though. They do not go out. Now if it were dark, all the lights would be on. Then you have the ability to cut the headlights out. But not during the day.

dxtreme_85 · 11-08-2003, 09:00 AM

But if you bypass the ALC sensor and do what I mentioned above to the parking light feed wire and the headlight feed wire, then DRLs would be gone...right?

armith · 11-08-2003, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dxtreme_85
Hey Armith...I just had a thought for all of us out here with 01's. DRL's come on during the day and are a pain in the ass. So, to get rid of them, some turn the parking lights on, that way just the ambers light up. Follow me so far? This in turn kills the DRL's(right?) so that the only light emmitted from the front of the vehicle is amber. So, by cutting the feed line from the parking light switch and installing a switch at this point you know can:
a) Flip switch to closed position/turn parking lights off=DRLs on/Parking lights off
b) Flip switch to closed position/turn parking lights on=DRLS off/Parking lights on
c) Flip switch to open position/turn parking lights off=DRLs on/Parking lights off
d) Flip switch to open position/turn parking lights on=DRLs off/Parking lights off

See where this is going?? It would involve a switch...but it gets rid of those d*mn DRLs and it only costs $2.00 for a switch. Think this will work??

Here is how I understood 01-02 models. If the ALC sensor believes it is night time and you manually switch to just parking lamps there are no DRLS just parking lights... But if it is daytime no matter whether you have the parking lights on or not the DRLs will be on.

As for cutting the feed line to the switch.. That is questionable because it seems that the BCM wants a voltage from switch. This is why the overrides for the 99-00s don't work on 01-02s.

I hope you get what I mean. If I could get a 01+ car to test voltages I would be able to show you what wires and or relay work may be done. I have some ideas but I can't even begin to explain them.. I would just have to read voltages with a meter and trial and error.

11-10-2003, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bergs22
still curious if anyone knows forsure if this same deal with cutting the wires from the bcm will also work on a 99 alero?

It worked fine on my 00 Alero, except for the DRL's, but i think that was just because of a bad ground, have to try that again,b ut as far as the ALC, it was pitch black outside, and my lights never came on.Woo Hoo

MJSilver00 · 11-10-2003, 01:24 PM

I had the same problem at first. check a little farther back in this thread. someone posted pics of a good place to ground that wire. there is a screw right in by the courtesy light under the glove box.

CtrlAltDel · 11-12-2003, 10:15 AM

Ok this is really ****in me off and i'm asking you guys cuz your the only ones that would know ... my change oil light comes on ... and i just changed my oil ... reset button does not turn it off ... help!

I hate that beeping when car starts

Phantom Phoenix · 11-12-2003, 10:19 AM

the manual tells you how to turn it off

CtrlAltDel · 11-12-2003, 12:49 PM

Bought car used ... dont have manual

GTluver · 11-12-2003, 06:37 PM

theres a how-to in the HOW-TO Section.......look for it

CtrlAltDel · 11-18-2003, 01:19 PM

Finally did it ... and man was it worth it ... Brought it to my installer cuz I dont have a garage and I wanted it nice and neat, and all my stuff that I do to my cars I go there. Neways thanks for the information on how to do this guys ... could not have done it w/o you guys. also we didnt have to remove the glove box ... just put a trouble light down there and he removed middle connection so it was easier to read. Didnt have to remove bcm at all just the middle cord ... also i dont think he needed to splice the wire he had enough slack after cutting higher up on the wire. Just thought i'd pass that along and thanks again!

oh and by the way i still cant figure out how to shut that damn oil light to go off

MJSilver00 · 11-18-2003, 01:40 PM

Seriously man, like GTluver said if you do a search youll find a bunch of threads on how to do it...

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showt...l+change+light

CtrlAltDel · 11-18-2003, 02:45 PM

heh thanks ... im uber lazy ... only looked for like 2 minutes ... thanks for link

armith · 11-19-2003, 10:43 AM

Turn key to ON position with the car not running... press the accelerator to the floor 3 times.. wait a few seconds and it should go out. turn key to off position.. and you should be fine...

One of the threads gives a reset button instruction which sounds awfully familiar to the check tire pressure reset. I'm pretty sure this one is it.. though its been a while.

I wonder about that oil light... Mine hasn't come on since August and its been about 11,000 miles... oh well oil still gets changed every 2500+ miles.

CtrlAltDel · 11-19-2003, 12:03 PM

Yeah thanks ... i was able to find that in the threads ... good to know though .... damn thing was annoying

disabled my drl's and stuff and my passenger side light (high / low beam) burnt out ... wonder if it was just its time or if its related ... hmmmm

armith · 11-19-2003, 12:13 PM

Did it just burn out? since you had the DRL work done did you ever have one light be brighter than the other... I know that when people in the past had removed the Relays besides the SVS light most people would also have a normal head light and then have one light be very very dim... Just something to check whether the bulb is out or just real dim.. if its dim it may be a loose wire or something. It is strange that both high and low beam would both be out just because its time was up.. if you keep any of your old head light bulbs wouldn't hurt to try it to see if it goes too..

11-04-2003, 12:20 PM	#141
Vintalage Hey paisanos! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 5,490 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT1	That is the 7 sec delay locking. When you hit the lock button once when the driver's or passenger's do is open, then the 7 sec delay locking is activated. __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT1 Sedan - Black 7000K HID PICS [SOLD to Jscarano]

11-04-2003, 05:18 PM	#142
armith Itzall Pipe Dreamz AKA: Kevin Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Youngstown, OH Age: 40 Posts: 227 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan	As far as I know Disabling DRLs is not illegal in any state that I know of yet. Thats why GM has been lobbying hard to get a law passed to require them. I respect your suggestion and I would even hope that you are right about reprogramming to bypass them.. I was just merely pointing out that the average joe does not have the connections or means to just run a Tech everytime they want to change something... But most of us do have means of getting Electrical tape, wire, and a screwdriver. I agree it is a good deal of work. and hassle and not exactly favorable to be cutting wires and what not.. But for people like me a $22,000 new GAGT or a uber-hundreds of dollars for a Tech2 isn't in my budget, $30 worth of tools and tape is. I am interested to know if you are successful with the tech.. If it works please post and maybe we'll figure out how its done.. __________________ 219,000+ miles on original drivetrain = FTW?!?!

11-05-2003, 09:56 PM	#143
freeze12 GAGT - Member AKA: Dan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo,NY Posts: 82 Vehicle: 2001 Olds Alero	Re: armith...That is a very unique way of bypassing those. I wish it were that simple to modify the DRL relay like you did without getting an SVS light.. Good job! __________________________________________________ ___ No... This did not give Me a Chk. eng. light or any other light for that matter. 2 years now & no problems. remember.... I said I have a 2001 Alero. I have posted this fix on an Alero board with some good results as this might or might not work for a 99 PS; A dealer will not disable the DRL's as per GM. If caught doing so they face some major problem's, law or no law. __________________ ... Dan

11-06-2003, 01:24 PM	#144
CtrlAltDel Grandamaholic Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Negaunee MI Age: 38 Posts: 33 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Sedan	heh I suppose that makes sense .. car is like ... "hey ass ... fergot to lock the damn doors again!" ... heh thanks for the tip Know this is off topic but what kind of stereo systems you guys got in your car? Mine: Eclipse 4x6's (fronts) Eclipse 6x9's (rears) 2 12" Ultimate subs Sony 760 Xplod Amp Stinger 1 farad Capacitor Sony Xplod CD player (cant think of model number) Delphi XM Radio Last edited by CtrlAltDel; 11-06-2003 at 01:28 PM.

11-07-2003, 10:33 PM	#145
dxtreme_85 Smoke em if u got em AKA: Terry Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Reynoldsburg, Ohio Age: 36 Posts: 466 Vehicle: 06 Cobalt SS/SC	Hey Armith...I just had a thought for all of us out here with 01's. DRL's come on during the day and are a pain in the ass. So, to get rid of them, some turn the parking lights on, that way just the ambers light up. Follow me so far? This in turn kills the DRL's(right?) so that the only light emmitted from the front of the vehicle is amber. So, by cutting the feed line from the parking light switch and installing a switch at this point you know can: a) Flip switch to closed position/turn parking lights off=DRLs on/Parking lights off b) Flip switch to closed position/turn parking lights on=DRLS off/Parking lights on c) Flip switch to open position/turn parking lights off=DRLs on/Parking lights off d) Flip switch to open position/turn parking lights on=DRLs off/Parking lights off See where this is going?? It would involve a switch...but it gets rid of those dmn DRLs and it only costs $2.00 for a switch. Think this will work?? __________________ Check out my Ride! Too many mods to list here! Best 1/4 mile time: 15.197s @ 90.40mph with a 2.175 60'* WITHOUT A CAI, HEADERS, OR DHP!

11-07-2003, 10:43 PM	#146
Vintalage Hey paisanos! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 5,490 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT1	Look again. During the day, the DRLs stay on no matter what. Unless of course you remove the relay. When you turn to parking lights, the parking lights come on. The drls stay on though. They do not go out. Now if it were dark, all the lights would be on. Then you have the ability to cut the headlights out. But not during the day. __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT1 Sedan - Black 7000K HID PICS [SOLD to Jscarano]

11-08-2003, 09:00 AM	#147
dxtreme_85 Smoke em if u got em AKA: Terry Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Reynoldsburg, Ohio Age: 36 Posts: 466 Vehicle: 06 Cobalt SS/SC	But if you bypass the ALC sensor and do what I mentioned above to the parking light feed wire and the headlight feed wire, then DRLs would be gone...right? __________________ Check out my Ride! Too many mods to list here! Best 1/4 mile time: 15.197s @ 90.40mph with a 2.175 60' WITHOUT A CAI, HEADERS, OR DHP!

11-10-2003, 01:24 PM	#150
MJSilver00 Riiiiight!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Northwest Suburbs of Chicago, IL Age: 45 Posts: 147 Vehicle: 00 GT Sedan	I had the same problem at first. check a little farther back in this thread. someone posted pics of a good place to ground that wire. there is a screw right in by the courtesy light under the glove box. __________________ ..."Do I look like a cat to you boy? Am I jumpin around all, nimbly bimbly from tree to tree? Am I drinking milk from a saucer? Well do you see me eating mice?!!!"...

11-12-2003, 10:15 AM	#151
CtrlAltDel Grandamaholic Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Negaunee MI Age: 38 Posts: 33 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Sedan	Ok this is really ****in me off and i'm asking you guys cuz your the only ones that would know ... my change oil light comes on ... and i just changed my oil ... reset button does not turn it off ... help! I hate that beeping when car starts

11-12-2003, 10:19 AM	#152
Phantom Phoenix On Adrenaline Rush Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Stanton, KY Age: 38 Posts: 150 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am SE Sedan	the manual tells you how to turn it off __________________ -Seth Last night I played a blank tape at full blast. The mime next door went nuts.

11-12-2003, 12:49 PM	#153
CtrlAltDel Grandamaholic Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Negaunee MI Age: 38 Posts: 33 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Sedan	Bought car used ... dont have manual

11-12-2003, 06:37 PM	#154
GTluver newest hobby... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 43 Posts: 1,038 Vehicle: 2000 GA GT1 Sedan	theres a how-to in the HOW-TO Section.......look for it __________________ Siquio

11-18-2003, 01:19 PM	#155
CtrlAltDel Grandamaholic Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Negaunee MI Age: 38 Posts: 33 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Sedan	Finally did it ... and man was it worth it ... Brought it to my installer cuz I dont have a garage and I wanted it nice and neat, and all my stuff that I do to my cars I go there. Neways thanks for the information on how to do this guys ... could not have done it w/o you guys. also we didnt have to remove the glove box ... just put a trouble light down there and he removed middle connection so it was easier to read. Didnt have to remove bcm at all just the middle cord ... also i dont think he needed to splice the wire he had enough slack after cutting higher up on the wire. Just thought i'd pass that along and thanks again! oh and by the way i still cant figure out how to shut that damn oil light to go off

11-18-2003, 01:40 PM	#156
MJSilver00 Riiiiight!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Northwest Suburbs of Chicago, IL Age: 45 Posts: 147 Vehicle: 00 GT Sedan	Seriously man, like GTluver said if you do a search youll find a bunch of threads on how to do it... http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showt...l+change+light __________________ ..."Do I look like a cat to you boy? Am I jumpin around all, nimbly bimbly from tree to tree? Am I drinking milk from a saucer? Well do you see me eating mice?!!!"...

11-18-2003, 02:45 PM	#157
CtrlAltDel Grandamaholic Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Negaunee MI Age: 38 Posts: 33 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Sedan	heh thanks ... im uber lazy ... only looked for like 2 minutes ... thanks for link

11-19-2003, 10:43 AM	#158
armith Itzall Pipe Dreamz AKA: Kevin Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Youngstown, OH Age: 40 Posts: 227 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan	Turn key to ON position with the car not running... press the accelerator to the floor 3 times.. wait a few seconds and it should go out. turn key to off position.. and you should be fine... One of the threads gives a reset button instruction which sounds awfully familiar to the check tire pressure reset. I'm pretty sure this one is it.. though its been a while. I wonder about that oil light... Mine hasn't come on since August and its been about 11,000 miles... oh well oil still gets changed every 2500+ miles. __________________ 219,000+ miles on original drivetrain = FTW?!?! Last edited by armith; 11-19-2003 at 10:48 AM.

11-19-2003, 12:03 PM	#159
CtrlAltDel Grandamaholic Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Negaunee MI Age: 38 Posts: 33 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Sedan	Yeah thanks ... i was able to find that in the threads ... good to know though .... damn thing was annoying disabled my drl's and stuff and my passenger side light (high / low beam) burnt out ... wonder if it was just its time or if its related ... hmmmm

11-19-2003, 12:13 PM	#160
armith Itzall Pipe Dreamz AKA: Kevin Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Youngstown, OH Age: 40 Posts: 227 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan	Did it just burn out? since you had the DRL work done did you ever have one light be brighter than the other... I know that when people in the past had removed the Relays besides the SVS light most people would also have a normal head light and then have one light be very very dim... Just something to check whether the bulb is out or just real dim.. if its dim it may be a loose wire or something. It is strange that both high and low beam would both be out just because its time was up.. if you keep any of your old head light bulbs wouldn't hurt to try it to see if it goes too.. __________________ 219,000+ miles on original drivetrain = FTW?!?!

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