New Car? New Mustang? - Page 4

Jagey · 10-16-2003, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by mszmustang13
Again I will prove you wrong on fact. 92% of V8 Mustang owners are male.

But it's all cool player, my sister drives a 2001 Grand Am.

However, more males buy the GT with its V-8 engine - 61 percent

SC/TGrandAm · 10-16-2003, 08:09 AM

ahahaha and there you have it ! Good find Jagey good find.

Jagey · 10-16-2003, 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by mszmustang13
Interesting. Do you have any research or numbers to back your statement or is your quote opinionated?

wtf

well i have taken you up on your challenege. I have prooved your company made sh!tty product that angers the consumer, and I proved that most v6 drivers are women. What now? Thank you, and please, feel free to visit again when you're done crying.

Mike3800 · 10-16-2003, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by mszmustang13
So the GTP is the top of the line Grand Prix. If were going apples for apples, its Mustang V6 VS. Grand Prix SE, Mustang GT vs. Grand Prix GT, and lastly Mustang Cobra vs. Grand Prix GTP...

Am I wrong by saying that?

Yes you are wrong by pitting sports cars against family sedans. You would have to put the Camaro, Trans Am and Corvette against Ford's whimpy Mustangs. Then you would have to put Ford's pathetic Taurus against the Grand Prix's.

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Originally posted by mszmustang13

Also a Supercharged V6 should be running with stock GT's. So take the 03 Cobra (12 second car) vs. GTP (14 second car)

An automatic FWD family sedan should be compared with a RWD V8 supercharged 5-speed sports car?... OK sure since it's Ford with the sports car... that's considered a handicap right there... so OK you are right.

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Originally posted by mszmustang13

Sorry you've had such bad luck with Ford.

Don't be sorry, I was the dummy that bought them, but I have learned from the situation this time.

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Originally posted by mszmustang13

Also FORD sold/leased 200,000 cars in July to private buyers alone.

200,000 suckers eh?

YEP... just like people that buy cigarette's and chia pet's.

Like I said.. I don't care if you like Ford. I don't hate you for buying Ford etc... It's just business, and nothing you can say will convince me that Ford is somthing worthy my hard earned money. End of story.

Jagey · 10-16-2003, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by TorchStang3.8
Dumbass... Pure.. pre 99 v6 is ****. 140+/- horses. On the other hand, 2003 v6 200 horses running 15.3 stock.

while i have my reserching window open, I might as well beat the dead horse a tad further.

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/ov...=10404&src=vip

3.8L 193 hp V6

Sorry, i'm really finished this time

RAMAIRGT1 · 10-16-2003, 08:15 AM

jagey-dont you think the grand am angers customers?
Now i admit the mustang isnt perfect but jsut read some of the posts on this forum how the problems people are having with their grand ams

ATTENTION: the grand am is NOT perfect either

a high amount of females also drive a grand am, does that mean anything? NO, its all about preference and affordablility

How the hell can a brand new v6 grand am cost the same as a brand new V8 mustang, have you ever thought about that?
Also look at resale value, its not even close

Mike3800 · 10-16-2003, 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1
jagey-dont you think the grand am angers customers?
Now i admit the mustang isnt perfect but jsut read some of the posts on this forum how the problems people are having with their grand ams

ATTENTION: the grand am is NOT perfect either

a high amount of females also drive a grand am, does that mean anything? NO, its all about preference and affordablility

How the hell can a brand new v6 grand am cost the same as a brand new V8 mustang, have you ever thought about that?
Also look at resale value, its not even close

No one's head gaskets on their Grand Am's pop frequently like most all the Ford 3.8's do.

No.. GM cars are not perfect, but the problems they have are easier dealt with than Fords. It's true.

Jagey · 10-16-2003, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1
jagey-dont you think the grand am angers customers?
Now i admit the mustang isnt perfect but jsut read some of the posts on this forum how the problems people are having with their grand ams

ATTENTION: the grand am is NOT perfect either

a high amount of females also drive a grand am, does that mean anything? NO, its all about preference and affordablility

How the hell can a brand new v6 grand am cost the same as a brand new V8 mustang, have you ever thought about that?
Also look at resale value, its not even close

I think the grand am angers customers too, I am one of those very angry customers. I know what kind of people buy this car too, that is part of the reason i dislike it now as well. The guy called me out, he wanted me to proove my facts with numbers. He tried to say that Ford had some decent built quality, i proved it was trash. He tried to claim that lots of girls don't drive v6's, prooved that horribly wrong, and apparantly 92 percent of V8's have male owners, proved that wrong as well. I did what I had to do and that is that.

RAMAIRGT1 · 10-16-2003, 08:21 AM

ok do me a favor
Compare the recalls/tsb's on a 2000 mustang v6 vs grand am v6

the mustang has 40
the grand am has 178 (yes some of those are warranty updates)

You guys crack me up, keep trying

Slim · 10-16-2003, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1
ok do me a favor
Compare the recalls/tsb's on a 2000 mustang v6 vs grand am v6

the mustang has 40
the grand am has 178 (yes some of those are warranty updates)

You guys crack me up, keep trying

GM cares more about us and wants our cars to be fixed.

Jagey · 10-16-2003, 08:26 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1

You guys crack me up, keep trying

KEEP TRYING! I only spent 4 minutes looking for info and I already found that much stuff bashing Ford. The JD. Powers survey was even praising GM man. I am not about to waste any more of my time prooving an obvious point. One day when I have free time, I'll write you an essay on the topic if you like.

RAMAIRGT1 · 10-16-2003, 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by Jagey
He tried to say that Ford had some decent built quality

if you are referring to ford as a whole then you are a moron, they do have decent quality, and the best selling truck on this planet

If you are referring to a mustang vs grand am, you are still a moron, look at the recalls
Ford does not build **** and neither does GM, EVERY company has problems

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/19/001917BZ.html

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/48/004813GN.html

Jagey · 10-16-2003, 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1
if you are referring to ford as a whole then you are a moron, they do have decent quality, and the best selling truck on this planet

If you are referring to a mustang vs grand am, you are still a moron, look at the recalls
Ford does not build **** and neither does GM, EVERY company has problems

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/19/001917BZ.html

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/48/004813GN.html

well thank you for keeping the conversation civil. Will you be buying a Rustang in the near future perhaps?

SC/TGrandAm · 10-16-2003, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1
ok do me a favor
Compare the recalls/tsb's on a 2000 mustang v6 vs grand am v6

the mustang has 40
the grand am has 178 (yes some of those are warranty updates)

You guys crack me up, keep trying

I got an idea, why dont you go sale your Grand Am, buy you a mustang drive it around for a a year and come back and tell us how much you still love your girly car.

Mike3800 · 10-16-2003, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by Jagey
I think the grand am angers customers too, I am one of those very angry customers.

My Grand Am was a bit of a lemon... however it was nothing serious. I guess I was just angry since it was a brand new expensive car and it had problems of any kind. I had an alternator go bad and the drivers side door leaked a little water on me once during a heavy snow storm. All the 2 problems were fixed.

I'll buy another GM car and feel confident doing so, I have owned quite a few Fords and GM cars in my short lifetime and with me GM has a great record.

Slim · 10-16-2003, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1
[b]and the best selling truck on this planet
B]

This comment is such a mis-conception. Chevy and GMC sales are always tracked separately. Why? I don't know.

If you combine Chevy and GMCs trucks sales they surpass the F-150 sales. Sooo, GM as a company sells more trucks than Ford as a company... And they last longer too.

RAMAIRGT1 · 10-16-2003, 08:37 AM

sc/t and jagey
already owned a mustang and loved it
Also there is a saleen sitting in the garage
Now if you think your little "girlie and rustang" comments get to me or any other mustang owner they dont, everyone has their own opinion.

I owned my grand am for 2 years, i loved the looks, but i hate the car and i will never own one again

Now if you want to compare the saleen to your 2 little grand am's then i would love to
if mommy or daddy has something faster or better then i could care less, its all about what YOU have

I can go on all day comparing the mustang to the grand am, but its not worth it because you will always try to dig up more and more sh!t about how bad it is, well sorry to burst your bubbles but the grand am doesnt even compare

mszmustang13 · 10-16-2003, 08:39 AM

The stat I pulled fr V8 owners is apparently taken from a different poll.

So some of you like to look up female % for the V6 Mustang. Here's an idea, look up female drivers for Grand AMs.

To the comment about "Rustangs" again proves you know little about Mustangs. Can you tell me what STAINLESS STEEL is?

As for me crying? Going to take more than that. When I close this window, enter the real world and start up my car I hear 8 cylinders warming up. The day I will be crying is the day I'm sporting a Grand AM around town. And yes that is a FACT.

The comment about the Grand AM looking better than a Mustang...merely opinion, but I think you stand alone when saying that.

Like I said before. I PERSONALLY havn't had one issue with the blue oval. Once again, if you had an issue...sorry. My mom drives a 2002 Pontiac Bonneville SSEI, that car has been in the shop more times in 6 months than mine has ever been in the shop. We had a Pontiac Montana van, the transmission blew on that... Any way you wanna cut it, reguardless the brand- cars will always be a money pit.

Mike3800 · 10-16-2003, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1
[b]and the best selling truck on this planet

That's not completley ture.

If you combine GMC Sierra and Chevrolet's Siverado's truck sales (the same truck) vs. F150... Ford can't compete.

Mike3800 · 10-16-2003, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1
Now if you want to compare the saleen to your 2 little grand am's then i would love to

How manly of you. You steal candy from school children too? Try picking on a Z28 or Trans Am...

10-16-2003, 08:09 AM	#62
SC/TGrandAm Newbie AKA: Kyle Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI Age: 39 Posts: 2,944 Vehicle: 2008 Accord	ahahaha and there you have it ! Good find Jagey good find. __________________ 2008 Accord EX-L Coupe 2002 GA SCT- R.I.P HID Pioneer http://www.myspace.com/Kleigou

10-16-2003, 08:15 AM	#66
RAMAIRGT1 Kick ass AKA: Yes Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 832 Vehicle: Ford	jagey-dont you think the grand am angers customers? Now i admit the mustang isnt perfect but jsut read some of the posts on this forum how the problems people are having with their grand ams ATTENTION: the grand am is NOT perfect either a high amount of females also drive a grand am, does that mean anything? NO, its all about preference and affordablility How the hell can a brand new v6 grand am cost the same as a brand new V8 mustang, have you ever thought about that? Also look at resale value, its not even close __________________ Joe mama

10-16-2003, 08:21 AM	#69
RAMAIRGT1 Kick ass AKA: Yes Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 832 Vehicle: Ford	ok do me a favor Compare the recalls/tsb's on a 2000 mustang v6 vs grand am v6 the mustang has 40 the grand am has 178 (yes some of those are warranty updates) You guys crack me up, keep trying __________________ Joe mama

10-16-2003, 08:37 AM	#77
RAMAIRGT1 Kick ass AKA: Yes Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 832 Vehicle: Ford	sc/t and jagey already owned a mustang and loved it Also there is a saleen sitting in the garage Now if you think your little "girlie and rustang" comments get to me or any other mustang owner they dont, everyone has their own opinion. I owned my grand am for 2 years, i loved the looks, but i hate the car and i will never own one again Now if you want to compare the saleen to your 2 little grand am's then i would love to if mommy or daddy has something faster or better then i could care less, its all about what YOU have I can go on all day comparing the mustang to the grand am, but its not worth it because you will always try to dig up more and more sh!t about how bad it is, well sorry to burst your bubbles but the grand am doesnt even compare __________________ Joe mama

10-16-2003, 08:39 AM	#78
mszmustang13 GAGT - Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Metro-Detroit Posts: 67 Vehicle: 2003 Mustang GT	The stat I pulled fr V8 owners is apparently taken from a different poll. So some of you like to look up female % for the V6 Mustang. Here's an idea, look up female drivers for Grand AMs. To the comment about "Rustangs" again proves you know little about Mustangs. Can you tell me what STAINLESS STEEL is? As for me crying? Going to take more than that. When I close this window, enter the real world and start up my car I hear 8 cylinders warming up. The day I will be crying is the day I'm sporting a Grand AM around town. And yes that is a FACT. The comment about the Grand AM looking better than a Mustang...merely opinion, but I think you stand alone when saying that. Like I said before. I PERSONALLY havn't had one issue with the blue oval. Once again, if you had an issue...sorry. My mom drives a 2002 Pontiac Bonneville SSEI, that car has been in the shop more times in 6 months than mine has ever been in the shop. We had a Pontiac Montana van, the transmission blew on that... Any way you wanna cut it, reguardless the brand- cars will always be a money pit. __________________ 2003 Mustang GT 4.6L V8 Yes it has mods. Last edited by mszmustang13; 10-16-2003 at 08:42 AM.

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