New Car? New Mustang? - Page 8

RAMAIRGT1 · 10-16-2003, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Mike3800
It can unless the Cobra is an 03. I have personally witnessed a Grand Prix GTP at the track take down an 01 Cobra. Then again that GTP took down an LT1 6-speed Camaro Z28 that was reasonbly modded (headders, ex, intake).

The GTP obviously wasnt stock (even with the sc)

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Originally posted by Mike3800
OK .. here are some more facts and math... you forgot power loss is greater through the drivetrain with RWD. That's why a stock automatic V6 GTP family sedan with 240HP can take down or hang with a 5-speed 260HP V8 Mustang GT. [/b]

We were referring to a S/C GA

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Originally posted by Mike3800
Another thing you forgot is traction... 1/4 times don't tell the whoe story in the case of a SC Grand Am... from a roll I would bet $$ that a 320HP Cobra would have a time with a supercharged GA. THAT'S embaressing for the driver of the Cobra. I'd be embaressed havnig a hard time shaking a Grand Am in ANY sports car. [/b]

I did mention traction, read it again

My money would be on the cobra from a roll or a stop

mr_eh · 10-16-2003, 10:32 AM

...i still stand by what i said a supercharged + lightly modded grand am could `hang` with a cobra ... when you define hang as beat it and i define it at staying within 2-3 car lengths...

RAMAIRGT1 · 10-16-2003, 10:35 AM

2-3 car lengths is hanging? thats getting your a$$ kicked!
Hanging is at least at the rear bumper

**** my ga stay 3 car lengths behind a camaro for peets sake, i dont think of that as hangin with it

Mike3800 · 10-16-2003, 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1

I did mention traction, read it again
My money would be on the cobra from a roll or a stop

My point is that it would be humiliatingly close. Kinda like seeing some old beat up Ford Maverick hanging with Z06 or something.

mr_eh · 10-16-2003, 10:40 AM

^ exactly

Mike3800 · 10-16-2003, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1
The GTP obviously wasnt stock (even with the sc)

Neither was the Cobra or the LT1 Camaro. None of the cars were using nitrous oxide.

RAMAIRGT1 · 10-16-2003, 10:44 AM

those mavericks were fast

Not2OLD · 10-16-2003, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by RAMAIRGT1
those mavericks were fast

sure, there was no wind resistance from that nasty perforated sheet metal...but the 302 Mavericks could get out of their own way

AznGA · 10-17-2003, 09:08 AM

I am not trying to take sides, but why so much hatred towards Mustangs? I like them. That will be the only Ford car I would buy. ****ing off about people buying a V6 Mustang is not much different than bashing people for buying a Grand Am SE, when SE is not much cheaper than GT(especially if you want SE with V6). People like sporty cars, but not many people can afford insurance on V8 models that are gas guzzlers.

Oh and do you all know why GM decided to kill Firebirds and Camaros?

RAMAIRGT1 · 10-17-2003, 09:49 AM

dude this thread was stopped, dont start it back up again

Black Z28 · 10-17-2003, 10:35 AM

bottom line.... i paid about the same as a new mustang GT driver would, yet my car will own that same GT over and over again. end of story

RAMAIRGT1 · 10-17-2003, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by GrandAmRamAir
bottom line.... i paid about the same as a new mustang GT driver would, yet my car will own that same GT over and over again. end of story

Bottom line i paid 1/4 of what you paid for my bike and i would smoke you worse than you would beat a mustang
do i care? NO

this thread was comparing a ga to a mustang, not a mustang to a camaro

again this thread was ended, end of story

Black Z28 · 10-17-2003, 10:58 AM

first off, how is there any comparison between a mustang and a GA? there isn't really, two totally different cars with totally different markets. Oh and go ahead and beat me with your bike... see what happens when you wreck on a bike vs a car

RAMAIRGT1 · 10-17-2003, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by GrandAmRamAir
first off, how is there any comparison between a mustang and a GA? there isn't really, two totally different cars with totally different markets. Oh and go ahead and beat me with your bike... see what happens when you wreck on a bike, it happens eventually to every bike rider.

first of all this thread was about a v6 mustang vs a GA, then somehow it got twisted, You are comparing a 350V8 to a 281V8, i would hope you would win

and second of all ive already been down on a bike so i know how it feels, plus that has nothing to do with getting smoked

Just end it already

Black Z28 · 10-17-2003, 11:05 AM

k, over

10-17-2003, 12:21 PM

Couples things:
From what I heard, a nice built supercharged Grand Am GT that I met at this meeting in Sterling Heights dynod 227 or so. Mustang V6s can get that with bolt ons alone, every single bolt on to do it, but just saying. Second, from what I have heard- GAGT > GPGT and a Mustang v6 is = GAGT so that would make a Mustang v6 > GPGT. I am thinking in terms of 1/4 stock times.
Second- to make this fair, MSZ (Mike) had a 97 v6 and then WON a Mustang GT automatic for FREE at an auto show. Only payed a thousand or so for tax, so he can't BLING like he has that kind of cash to buy and maintain a V8. Once again he won it. Sorry Mike.
Now if any of this makes a difference or not, I'll see you guys on the street because I'm tired of this thread, happens a lot.

v6 Mustang = 15.3 1/4 mile for reference, that's on a manual like I have. Automatics are high 15s or low 16s, Ford Automatics suck huge balls. Mike's automatic v8 runs high 14's so if anyone wants to try him out, go for it.

AMRAAM4 · 10-17-2003, 01:11 PM

Mike3800 · 10-17-2003, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by GrandAmRamAir
bottom line.... i paid about the same as a new mustang GT driver would, yet my car will own that same GT over and over again. end of story

Your avitar says it all.

Mike3800 · 10-17-2003, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by TorchStang3.8
Couples things:
From what I heard, a nice built supercharged Grand Am GT that I met at this meeting in Sterling Heights dynod 227 or so. Mustang V6s can get that with bolt ons alone, every single bolt on to do it, but just saying.

Dyno 's are nice... previous gen GTP's are 240 crank HP and Mustang GT's are 260... yet GTP's with automatics and FWD can hang with Mustang GT's. So you see you will never win a race with numbers.

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Originally posted by TorchStang3.8
v6 Mustang = 15.3 1/4 mile for reference, that's on a manual like I have. Automatics are high 15s or low 16s, Ford Automatics suck huge balls. Mike's automatic v8 runs high 14's so if anyone wants to try him out, go for it.

V6 Mustang on a GOOD PERFECT DAY with a PERFECT DRIVER MIGHT run a 15.3... what I have seen on average from owners is 15.5-15.9 with the 5-speed. Automatics are in the 16's unless modded. Quit trying to milk up the times.

There was/is a guy on here that ran a 15.2 stock with a Grand Am GT... so now all Grand Am GT's run 15.2 stock? NO... don't try and BS....

10-17-2003, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by AznGA
I am not trying to take sides, but why so much hatred towards Mustangs? I like them.

i like mustangs too!...not the mustang 2 but mustangs also rather.

10-16-2003, 10:32 AM	#142
mr_eh Hi. AKA: xxx Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Staten Island, NY Age: 39 Posts: 4,405 Vehicle: 05 Srt-4 / 00GrandAmSE	...i still stand by what i said a supercharged + lightly modded grand am could `hang` with a cobra ... when you define hang as beat it and i define it at staying within 2-3 car lengths... __________________ 4cyl ga se -> 431whp srt4 -> 600whp s14? wtf.

10-16-2003, 10:35 AM	#143
RAMAIRGT1 Kick ass AKA: Yes Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 832 Vehicle: Ford	2-3 car lengths is hanging? thats getting your a$$ kicked! Hanging is at least at the rear bumper **** my ga stay 3 car lengths behind a camaro for peets sake, i dont think of that as hangin with it __________________ Joe mama

10-16-2003, 10:40 AM	#145
mr_eh Hi. AKA: xxx Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Staten Island, NY Age: 39 Posts: 4,405 Vehicle: 05 Srt-4 / 00GrandAmSE	^ exactly __________________ 4cyl ga se -> 431whp srt4 -> 600whp s14? wtf.

10-16-2003, 10:44 AM	#147
RAMAIRGT1 Kick ass AKA: Yes Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 832 Vehicle: Ford	those mavericks were fast __________________ Joe mama

10-17-2003, 09:49 AM	#150
RAMAIRGT1 Kick ass AKA: Yes Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 832 Vehicle: Ford	dude this thread was stopped, dont start it back up again __________________ Joe mama

10-17-2003, 09:08 AM	#149
AznGA GAGT - Junkie AKA: YJ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 4,440 Vehicle: GAGT	I am not trying to take sides, but why so much hatred towards Mustangs? I like them. That will be the only Ford car I would buy. ****ing off about people buying a V6 Mustang is not much different than bashing people for buying a Grand Am SE, when SE is not much cheaper than GT(especially if you want SE with V6). People like sporty cars, but not many people can afford insurance on V8 models that are gas guzzlers. Oh and do you all know why GM decided to kill Firebirds and Camaros?

10-17-2003, 10:35 AM	#151
Black Z28 Z is comin fo ya!!! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Age: 40 Posts: 624 Vehicle: 2002 manual Z28	bottom line.... i paid about the same as a new mustang GT driver would, yet my car will own that same GT over and over again. end of story __________________ 2002 Onyx Black M6 Z28 13.208 @ 108 Mods: SLP loudmouth catback, MTI Airbox lid, Pro 5.0 short throw 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS M5

10-17-2003, 10:58 AM	#153
Black Z28 Z is comin fo ya!!! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Age: 40 Posts: 624 Vehicle: 2002 manual Z28	first off, how is there any comparison between a mustang and a GA? there isn't really, two totally different cars with totally different markets. Oh and go ahead and beat me with your bike... see what happens when you wreck on a bike vs a car __________________ 2002 Onyx Black M6 Z28 13.208 @ 108 Mods: SLP loudmouth catback, MTI Airbox lid, Pro 5.0 short throw 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS M5 Last edited by Black Z28; 10-17-2003 at 11:04 AM.

10-17-2003, 11:05 AM	#155
Black Z28 Z is comin fo ya!!! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Age: 40 Posts: 624 Vehicle: 2002 manual Z28	k, over __________________ 2002 Onyx Black M6 Z28 13.208 @ 108 Mods: SLP loudmouth catback, MTI Airbox lid, Pro 5.0 short throw 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS M5

10-17-2003, 12:21 PM	#156
TorchStang3.8 Guest Posts: n/a	Couples things: From what I heard, a nice built supercharged Grand Am GT that I met at this meeting in Sterling Heights dynod 227 or so. Mustang V6s can get that with bolt ons alone, every single bolt on to do it, but just saying. Second, from what I have heard- GAGT > GPGT and a Mustang v6 is = GAGT so that would make a Mustang v6 > GPGT. I am thinking in terms of 1/4 stock times. Second- to make this fair, MSZ (Mike) had a 97 v6 and then WON a Mustang GT automatic for FREE at an auto show. Only payed a thousand or so for tax, so he can't BLING like he has that kind of cash to buy and maintain a V8. Once again he won it. Sorry Mike. Now if any of this makes a difference or not, I'll see you guys on the street because I'm tired of this thread, happens a lot. v6 Mustang = 15.3 1/4 mile for reference, that's on a manual like I have. Automatics are high 15s or low 16s, Ford Automatics suck huge balls. Mike's automatic v8 runs high 14's so if anyone wants to try him out, go for it.

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