S&S vs. TOG - Page 4

PontiacGT2K · 11-14-2003, 11:45 AM

Am I a guru?

Avsguy01 · 11-14-2003, 11:46 AM

Youve helped me out havent ya?

PontiacGT2K · 11-14-2003, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Avsguy01
Youve helped me out havent ya?

So who's shooting to beat my best 1/4 time?

kubiache · 11-14-2003, 11:47 AM

don't forget the red SE!!!

and while we're off topic...there's going to be a lot of people in the 14s next year. I can't wait to see what the 1/4 mi list looks like next fall.

PontiacGT2K · 11-14-2003, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by kubiache
don't forget the red SE!!!

and while we're off topic...there's going to be a lot of people in the 14s next year. I can't wait to see what the 1/4 mi list looks like next fall.

There's gonna be a good amount of guys in the 12's too. I may be one of them......if the whole "other car" thing falls through.

coupe · 11-14-2003, 11:48 AM

Yes i would cinsider you a guru. I did leave out the flx pipe though. My hook up is gonna rig me one but he wont tell me how he is gonna do it. He just tells me dont worry about it. I cant waite to fire it up for the first time. This is so killing me.

Avsguy01 · 11-14-2003, 11:52 AM

Man same here!! I hope im pushing high 14's!! Im at 15.4 right now. Yes your included too kubiache, in fact your forum name is damn close to my last name....kubovcik....

I hope to be up at GAP next year. Ahhh itll be nice to lose my GAP virginity

PontiacGT2K · 11-14-2003, 11:55 AM

So no one is shooting for my 14.0 @ 95mph? I bet someone can beat it.....

coupe · 11-14-2003, 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by PontiacGT2K
So no one is shooting for my 14.0 @ 95mph? I bet someone can beat it.....

I got a ways to go to beat that.

Avsguy01 · 11-14-2003, 11:59 AM

Hell i know im not beating it!

Knappy1 · 11-14-2003, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by PontiacGT2K
So no one is shooting for my 14.0 @ 95mph? I bet someone can beat it.....

I'll beat it as soon as I get to sea level...btw, what's your best time with out the giggle gas?

PontiacGT2K · 11-14-2003, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by Knappy1
I'll beat it as soon as I get to sea level...btw, what's your best time with out the giggle gas?

Best time was on ****ty bald tires, at 1500 ft. up, with just headers and exhaust (stock intake still) at 15.0

Avsguy01 · 11-14-2003, 01:37 PM

Man I am so excited!! I just set up an appointment next wednesday to get all this work done! I cant wait! Hope all this is worth it

coupe · 11-14-2003, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by Avsguy01
Man I am so excited!! I just set up an appointment next wednesday to get all this work done! I cant wait! Hope all this is worth it

The part im most excited about is firing her up for the first time and her maiden voyage! This is killing me! SS better get me my headers right now!

aleroboy · 11-14-2003, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by PontiacGT2K
S&S also have larger primaries, a pretty easy install, and they don't hit the firewall whatsoever, possibly causing the knock sensor to get bad readings.

bigger isint always better especially when it comes to primaries.
looks like install time was about the same on S&S as it was on TOG. and TOGs dont hit the firewall either. Its the EGR tube that hits if not bent out of the way.

as for the warranty thats somthing I didnt know about
last time I looked at their site they had nothing on that.

PontiacGT2K · 11-14-2003, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by aleroboy
bigger isint always better especially when it comes to primaries.
looks like install time was about the same on S&S as it was on TOG. and TOGs dont hit the firewall either. Its the EGR tube that hits if not bent out of the way.

as for the warranty thats somthing I didnt know about
last time I looked at their site they had nothing on that.

It's all good John, in the end it's personal preference that should buy headers, not what you or I tell him.

aleroboy · 11-14-2003, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by bszopi
I still have a sore spot inside for the TOGs. Even if the entire company personnel has switched, once you have a bad experience with a company, you don't tend to go back. So I am biased against TOG. Any other company could produce headers, and I would still bring up issues with the TOGs. That's just the way I am.

I can't blame ya one bit and I'm glad I never really delt with duane.
his customer service skills didnt exzist.
I'm sure if I had been arround when this was going on I too would feel the way you do and would never have bought from them.

The owner of TOG also realized duane was bad for business though and that is oen of the major reasons why he was fired.
but the damage was allready done.

Blackrider · 11-14-2003, 03:51 PM

Get Me a Bottle and I'll Shoot for your 1/4 Mile time, But i plan to beat that NA

Just let me Refine my current setup

eric99gt · 11-14-2003, 04:14 PM

another dumb question from the engine noob, but should I def get these ceramic coated. what are the benefits????

claymore · 11-14-2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by bszopi
Remember that TOG has superior welds to the S&S's also... only 3 people have had bad welds on the TOGs whereas no one has had bad welds on the S&S's "inferior" welds. Hmm...

Of course, there is where the lifetime warranty is nice. You can just send them in and get a new set! All you have to pay for is the labor to get the bad one taken off and the new one put on. I mean, from what I've heard on here, that should only run you ~$300 or so. Hmm...

4 I just had mine installed Wednesday and they had bad welds. but thanks to APOC and TOG i got a new one in 24hrs.

I still havent picked up my car yet. Had a trip to DC today for class and the garage was closed before i got back

11-14-2003, 11:45 AM	#61
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11-14-2003, 11:47 AM	#64
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11-14-2003, 11:52 AM	#67
Avsguy01 Roll'n down the road Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clayton, De Age: 39 Posts: 717 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coup	Man same here!! I hope im pushing high 14's!! Im at 15.4 right now. Yes your included too kubiache, in fact your forum name is damn close to my last name....kubovcik.... I hope to be up at GAP next year. Ahhh itll be nice to lose my GAP virginity __________________ Michael "MSK" P O N T I A C *Grand Am GT* New time coming up this spring My N-Body Registry My Cardomain

11-14-2003, 11:55 AM	#68
PontiacGT2K It's coming... AKA: Andy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St. Charles, Illinois / Milwaukee, Wisconsin (school) Age: 37 Posts: 2,486 Vehicle: '03 350z Touring	So no one is shooting for my 14.0 @ 95mph? I bet someone can beat it..... __________________ Team GMCI "Get the ambulance, my stomach fell out."

11-14-2003, 11:59 AM	#70
Avsguy01 Roll'n down the road Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clayton, De Age: 39 Posts: 717 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coup	Hell i know im not beating it! __________________ Michael "MSK" P O N T I A C *Grand Am GT* New time coming up this spring My N-Body Registry My Cardomain

11-14-2003, 01:37 PM	#73
Avsguy01 Roll'n down the road Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clayton, De Age: 39 Posts: 717 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coup	Man I am so excited!! I just set up an appointment next wednesday to get all this work done! I cant wait! Hope all this is worth it __________________ Michael "MSK" P O N T I A C *Grand Am GT* New time coming up this spring My N-Body Registry My Cardomain

11-14-2003, 03:51 PM	#78
Blackrider Ifeast Upon The Weak AKA: Jordie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Victoria B.C. Age: 36 Posts: 3,048 Vehicle: 06 GTP 6Speed	Get Me a Bottle and I'll Shoot for your 1/4 Mile time, But i plan to beat that NA Just let me Refine my current setup __________________ 60DegreeGTP

11-14-2003, 04:14 PM	#79
eric99gt just go for it AKA: Eric Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houston, TX Age: 39 Posts: 1,505 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan	another dumb question from the engine noob, but should I def get these ceramic coated. what are the benefits???? __________________ Check the rig out here. http://rankmyride.com/?page=cars/view&CID=250 Check out my Interceptor digital scan tool

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