Took off CAI today, car has LOTS MORE RESPONSE!!!! - Page 6

Pontiac Ninja · 01-15-2004, 09:22 AM

OKay you picky bastards

. I scanned this a couple times and this was the best I could get. If I can get a better one I will post it later on. I only said 25hp because supposedly our cars have an average of 175hp from the factory and the end result from this dyno was 198.25. Which is 23.25hp! Just rounding to the nearest 5

There really is a large curve under the stoock vs. APOC SLP setup as stated. Which really does improve overall ACCELEATION!! Hope this helps!

Jason

Pontiac Ninja · 01-15-2004, 09:34 AM

SWEEEET!! I just had to press real hard in that area of the page

SO here it is. Also, they said that they took it to the track when they removed the jack and spare tire they consistently got 15.0s@92mph (weather in the upper 50s)! Not bad!

Slim · 01-15-2004, 12:21 PM

^ That chart explains the loss of low end torque. If you compare the two curves, the one with the APoC CAI and the SLP exhaust has way lower numbers at the low end but more than makes up for it above 2,700 rpm.

safemode · 01-15-2004, 12:58 PM

yea, below 2700 it amounts to about 50ft lbs difference and 50 hp.

As for more than making up for it above that, that depends on how often you stay above 2700rpm. while driving, highway or locally i'd say your time below 2700rpm is far greater than above. There is a happy medium, use it if you want something in the middle. Otherwise stock or after market has drawbacks _all the time_ no matter if you're racing or not.

Ant · 01-15-2004, 01:02 PM

you guys with the MAF...

you say that the CAI didn't do much until you got the maf....i'm thinking this is because the MAF did SO MUCH, you forgot about how much better the CAI by itself was over stock.

And from that scan, they said the car "accelerates better". what would that be...like.... .2 or .3 off of the 0-60 time? or a better 1/8th mile time, etc...

Kdawg207 · 01-15-2004, 01:06 PM

^

right

no question all these options are better than stock...but for me...the CAI gain was marginal at best..no biggie...more noise than anything...but with the MAF the combination was worth all of it. So they both contributed equally to my satisfaction

Avsguy01 · 01-15-2004, 01:08 PM

Its kinda wierd. Ive notice gain with my CAI, but the noise isnt as loud as i was expecting. I think its cause i have headers and they are loud so maybe thats why im not hearing the CAI.

Avsguy01 · 01-16-2004, 05:56 AM

CAI + Pro-M = Impressive gain. Just installed last night so here is yet again a very happy person with this setup

SilverEcstasy · 01-16-2004, 11:56 PM

Mike, your 15.4 time is with TOG and all those other stuff you put on?

mr_eh · 01-17-2004, 12:15 AM

noise? my wai makes a horrendously loud whistling noise when im just crusing and stomp on the gas, and into gears it whistles, i've been asked several times if i had a turbo/supercharger in my car...

Tonyyank · 01-17-2004, 12:20 AM

im gay and think GA's are fast

SilverEcstasy · 01-17-2004, 12:21 AM

But, if you noticed, he has TOG headers and exhaust. I had my CAI first, then got my Borla. I notice the Borla over the exhaust now. Guess we should have all clarified the noise increase for all those with modded engines already.

Tonyyank · 01-17-2004, 12:23 AM

^ proved my point

SilverEcstasy · 01-17-2004, 12:37 AM

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Tonyyank · 01-17-2004, 12:39 AM

take it as you see it

mr_eh · 01-17-2004, 12:39 AM

i think tony is trying to imply grand ams are slow.

SilverEcstasy · 01-17-2004, 12:40 AM

Oookie doke..well 6 pages later and now you finally admit you don't give a damn. Why'd you take the time to start all this controversy?

Tonyyank · 01-17-2004, 12:47 AM

Cause i noticed somethihng after i took it out, apparently im still dreaming and your right!

Avsguy01 · 01-18-2004, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeNT256
Mike, your 15.4 time is with TOG and all those other stuff you put on?

My 15.4 was with just a Borla cat back and drop K&N air filter.

SilverEcstasy · 01-18-2004, 12:23 PM

man im not doing something right then cause i ran the same time with borla and cai

01-15-2004, 09:22 AM	#101
Pontiac Ninja GAGT - Member AKA: Jason Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kansas City Age: 39 Posts: 987 Vehicle: 2004 Mazda 6 V6	OKay you picky bastards . I scanned this a couple times and this was the best I could get. If I can get a better one I will post it later on. I only said 25hp because supposedly our cars have an average of 175hp from the factory and the end result from this dyno was 198.25. Which is 23.25hp! Just rounding to the nearest 5 There really is a large curve under the stoock vs. APOC SLP setup as stated. Which really does improve overall ACCELEATION!! Hope this helps! Jason __________________ CarDomain

01-15-2004, 09:34 AM	#102
Pontiac Ninja GAGT - Member AKA: Jason Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kansas City Age: 39 Posts: 987 Vehicle: 2004 Mazda 6 V6	SWEEEET!! I just had to press real hard in that area of the page SO here it is. Also, they said that they took it to the track when they removed the jack and spare tire they consistently got 15.0s@92mph (weather in the upper 50s)! Not bad! __________________ CarDomain

01-15-2004, 12:21 PM	#103
Slim Captain Canuck AKA: Matt Join Date: Mar 1977 Location: Burlington, Ontario Age: 44 Posts: 3,593 Vehicle: 08 Acadia, 13 Mazda 6	^ That chart explains the loss of low end torque. If you compare the two curves, the one with the APoC CAI and the SLP exhaust has way lower numbers at the low end but more than makes up for it above 2,700 rpm. __________________ Canadian to the core!

01-15-2004, 01:02 PM	#105
Ant LS2 - Member AKA: Anthony Join Date: May 2003 Location: DC metro area Age: 34 Posts: 2,251 Vehicle: S5/GTO	you guys with the MAF... you say that the CAI didn't do much until you got the maf....i'm thinking this is because the MAF did SO MUCH, you forgot about how much better the CAI by itself was over stock. And from that scan, they said the car "accelerates better". what would that be...like.... .2 or .3 off of the 0-60 time? or a better 1/8th mile time, etc... __________________ USAF -06 IBM GTO/M6 - 477 WHP Best e/t before H/C - 12.71 @ 111.77 -18 Audi S5 Prestige Navarra Blue/A8 - DTUK Tuned 12.14 @ 111.19

01-15-2004, 01:08 PM	#107
Avsguy01 Roll'n down the road Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clayton, De Age: 39 Posts: 717 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coup	Its kinda wierd. Ive notice gain with my CAI, but the noise isnt as loud as i was expecting. I think its cause i have headers and they are loud so maybe thats why im not hearing the CAI. __________________ Michael "MSK" P O N T I A C *Grand Am GT* New time coming up this spring My N-Body Registry My Cardomain

01-15-2004, 12:58 PM	#104
safemode Pilot #42 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Levittown, PA Age: 38 Posts: 290 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Coupe	yea, below 2700 it amounts to about 50ft lbs difference and 50 hp. As for more than making up for it above that, that depends on how often you stay above 2700rpm. while driving, highway or locally i'd say your time below 2700rpm is far greater than above. There is a happy medium, use it if you want something in the middle. Otherwise stock or after market has drawbacks _all the time_ no matter if you're racing or not.

01-16-2004, 05:56 AM	#108
Avsguy01 Roll'n down the road Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clayton, De Age: 39 Posts: 717 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coup	CAI + Pro-M = Impressive gain. Just installed last night so here is yet again a very happy person with this setup __________________ Michael "MSK" P O N T I A C *Grand Am GT* New time coming up this spring My N-Body Registry My Cardomain

01-16-2004, 11:56 PM	#109
SilverEcstasy boosted..finally! AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Michigan Age: 37 Posts: 2,633 Vehicle: 08.5 MS3 GT	Mike, your 15.4 time is with TOG and all those other stuff you put on? __________________ Mike 2008.5 CWP Mazdaspeed 3 Grand Touring - mine 2008.5 CWP Mazda CX-7 Sport FWD - hers

01-17-2004, 12:15 AM	#110
mr_eh Hi. AKA: xxx Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Staten Island, NY Age: 39 Posts: 4,405 Vehicle: 05 Srt-4 / 00GrandAmSE	noise? my wai makes a horrendously loud whistling noise when im just crusing and stomp on the gas, and into gears it whistles, i've been asked several times if i had a turbo/supercharger in my car... __________________ 4cyl ga se -> 431whp srt4 -> 600whp s14? wtf.

01-17-2004, 12:20 AM	#111
Tonyyank Administrator AKA: Anthony Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Parma, MI Age: 40 Posts: 3,470 Vehicle: 09 Silverado 4x4	im gay and think GA's are fast

01-17-2004, 12:21 AM	#112
SilverEcstasy boosted..finally! AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Michigan Age: 37 Posts: 2,633 Vehicle: 08.5 MS3 GT	But, if you noticed, he has TOG headers and exhaust. I had my CAI first, then got my Borla. I notice the Borla over the exhaust now. Guess we should have all clarified the noise increase for all those with modded engines already. __________________ Mike 2008.5 CWP Mazdaspeed 3 Grand Touring - mine 2008.5 CWP Mazda CX-7 Sport FWD - hers

01-17-2004, 12:23 AM	#113
Tonyyank Administrator AKA: Anthony Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Parma, MI Age: 40 Posts: 3,470 Vehicle: 09 Silverado 4x4	^ proved my point

01-17-2004, 12:37 AM	#114
SilverEcstasy boosted..finally! AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Michigan Age: 37 Posts: 2,633 Vehicle: 08.5 MS3 GT	What the hell is that supposed to mean? __________________ Mike 2008.5 CWP Mazdaspeed 3 Grand Touring - mine 2008.5 CWP Mazda CX-7 Sport FWD - hers

01-17-2004, 12:39 AM	#115
Tonyyank Administrator AKA: Anthony Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Parma, MI Age: 40 Posts: 3,470 Vehicle: 09 Silverado 4x4	take it as you see it

01-17-2004, 12:39 AM	#116
mr_eh Hi. AKA: xxx Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Staten Island, NY Age: 39 Posts: 4,405 Vehicle: 05 Srt-4 / 00GrandAmSE	i think tony is trying to imply grand ams are slow. __________________ 4cyl ga se -> 431whp srt4 -> 600whp s14? wtf.

01-17-2004, 12:40 AM	#117
SilverEcstasy boosted..finally! AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Michigan Age: 37 Posts: 2,633 Vehicle: 08.5 MS3 GT	Oookie doke..well 6 pages later and now you finally admit you don't give a damn. Why'd you take the time to start all this controversy? __________________ Mike 2008.5 CWP Mazdaspeed 3 Grand Touring - mine 2008.5 CWP Mazda CX-7 Sport FWD - hers

01-17-2004, 12:47 AM	#118
Tonyyank Administrator AKA: Anthony Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Parma, MI Age: 40 Posts: 3,470 Vehicle: 09 Silverado 4x4	Cause i noticed somethihng after i took it out, apparently im still dreaming and your right!

01-18-2004, 12:23 PM	#120
SilverEcstasy boosted..finally! AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Michigan Age: 37 Posts: 2,633 Vehicle: 08.5 MS3 GT	man im not doing something right then cause i ran the same time with borla and cai __________________ Mike 2008.5 CWP Mazdaspeed 3 Grand Touring - mine 2008.5 CWP Mazda CX-7 Sport FWD - hers

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