62 mm TB's

62mm? thats all?

As far as the UIM / LIM port matching thing, to get around the fact of not having the ports lined up perfectly.. make the LIM ports slightly larger.. this way you have some play in fitment, and you will not run into ridges going the wrong way.

[phantom505]

Welp, I spoke to Ty again. We discussed the pro's and con's of going with a 65mm body. We decided to go ahead with the 65mm design. It will mean a few extra days, but I thought you guys wouldn't mind the wait.

[kubiache]

A few extra days still beats 14 months for someone else's 62mm. Tell Ty if that 65mm comes out before I get mine, he'll have one garaunteed sale.

[AMRAAM4]

I think Ty will have a guaranteed sale.

[kubiache]

Originally Posted by AMRAAM4

I think Ty will have a guaranteed sale.

Agreed

[1FastGA]

Count me in too!

[zhd1000]

so what about the UIM/LIM?? will they bolt up the same with a 65mm TB? or is DP going to offer UIM/LIM ported to match the 65mm

[phantom505]

I told him that he needed to get a UIM and port it to match the gaskets and the larger TB. He said that should not be a problem. So yes, he will have a matched UIM. He could match the LIM, but that may not be as necessary and he will do so if there is demand for such an item.

BTW, I think he intends on getting a shop to do CNC work because in the long run it's cheaper.

[zhd1000]

is there an ETA on this yet or a price for that matter?

[phantom505]

On the TB's I am hoping it gets wrapped up next week. The manifolds have yet to begin. My guess it won't take very long to get a set of ported manifolds going. That's just a matter of him going out and getting a set of gaskets and cores.

[FORTEEN3GT]

Originally Posted by speedyguy

I don’t want to advertise within the posts so I will make it simple Domestic Performance will post information about our up and coming products on our site. Phantom has been very involved with the push to make this happen but if you want information please contact us directly through our website..

The site is under construction and the updates will soon come showing product that is coming.

Sorry to be so vague but I don’t want to disrespect the other companies who pay for advertising on this site.

Ty

Ty.... thanks for your intrest in us LA1 guys!!!

we have been waiting for companies on the manufacturing end of things to roll out witn new products..........

i wonder what else you are looking into doing?

is a cnc'd vortech supercharger shaft out of the question? would you take donations into the R & D to come up with something like this? i would be willing to donate to this sort of cause for a reliable company to "attempt" something like this?!!!! that 1500.00 v-9 units sure does wonders for a little ole 3.4!

of course sufficiant brackets to mount the shaft becomes another issue..... belt drive sure does put a lot of strain when under acceleration.

Mike

also is a 65mm tb a little over the top??? our intake plenum i am sure cannot be opened to 65mm? wouldnt that create a bottle neck issue and cause intake shear/ turbulant flow? air flows best straight.

[phantom505]

Well I am involved somewhat on the majority of the his projects...

1) The TB should be fine at 65 mm because the opening of the UIM should be able to handle the air flow. It may seem thin, but you would be amazed how strong a little aluminium is.

2) The transmission project is well underway. He has already invested quite a bit of coin in order to get the Alto Reds to market. He works with EP closely for the limited slip. Improvements will be made as time goes on and they are able to determine precisely what the weakest points are.

3) He is working on getting heads, LIM, UIM all CNC'ed and milled. There will be 3 tiers of heads with varying costs. The 3rd tier will have LS1 springs and SS valves, and so on.

4) He has Delrin inserts almost done for the mounts. Similar to polyurethane, but it's properties are better.

5) He is working with another shop to get another company involved on computer tuning. This will be a custom tune; not necessarily a tuneable computer, however he is looking into that as we speak.


If there is enough demand he'll probably do almost any work people are willing to pay for. He prefers to be in the "custom" business, but is starting to offer more off the shelf products because that sells. I'll see what he says about developing a SC, but I will tell you this, it won't be a Vortec. More than likely he would go with a Borg-Warner if he persues a centrifuge. But he would have to have up front costs covered.... he already working on a different boost project right now.

[FORTEEN3GT]

Originally Posted by phantom505

Well I am involved someone how on the majority of the his projects....

you did a great job convincing HP to do a turbo!!!!!!

Originally Posted by phantom505

If there is enough demand he'll probably do almost any work people are willing to pay for. He prefers to be in the "custom" business, but is starting to offer more off the shelf products because that sells. I'll see what he says about developing a SC, but I will tell you this, it won't be a Vortec. More than likely he would go with a Borg-Warner if he persues a centrifuge. But he would have to have up front costs covered.... he already working on a different boost project right now.

let us know what he thinks! give me a link to the blower you are referring to! what about m62? not alot of R&D needed!!!

[Knappy1]

What part of the country are they in? I'm assuming they are near you in Indiana?

[Schweppe23]

M62 could be a little small considering what your goals are for the car. If you want low low 14s and high 13s the m62 is capable, but if you wanna go much lower I believe you'll need a larger sc. Maybe i'm wrong we'll just have to wait and see As for r&d needed its minimal but still there would be some, cuz you dont have magna's castings and other parts of the kit so they'd need to be made anyways. I'd just go with a different unit all together. Borg-Warner i've heard good things, and my 'mustang friends' are all for ati prochargers but i haven't done much reading on them.

I'll proof read this later when i'm sober.

[bszopi]

65 will fit.. .GPXSS and his 3200 prove it...

[phantom505]

you did a great job convincing HP to do a turbo!!!!!!

Too bad I couldn't convince them to get some customer service and to play well with others....

[FORTEEN3GT]

Originally Posted by Schweppe23

M62 could be a little small considering what your goals are for the car. If you want low low 14s and high 13s the m62 is capable, but if you wanna go much lower I believe you'll need a larger sc. Maybe i'm wrong we'll just have to wait and see As for r&d needed its minimal but still there would be some, cuz you dont have magna's castings and other parts of the kit so they'd need to be made anyways. I'd just go with a different unit all together. Borg-Warner i've heard good things, and my 'mustang friends' are all for ati prochargers but i haven't done much reading on them.

I'll proof read this later when i'm sober.

i want low 14's all motor.. and if i boost i want mid 13's!! i am not like phantom and the other guru's that are out to seek 12's!

[FORTEEN3GT]

so... instead of the bottle neck being the start of the plenum it will be in the plenum inlet..... the plenum is still not 65mm inside...doesnt matter if you port it to match 65mm...... the inside plenum runner is still much smaller!?

whatever..... like everyone says .. "the bigger the better"

[bszopi]

Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

so... instead of the bottle neck being the start of the plenum it will be in the plenum inlet..... the plenum is still not 65mm inside...doesnt matter if you port it to match 65mm...... the inside plenum runner is still much smaller!?

Huh? If you are talking about the height of the plenum inside, it really doesn't matter. The reason for the larger TB (plenum) opening is so that you can fill the plenum with air FASTER. Although plenum volume also affects the amount of air available to the cylinders, if the plenum can't get refreshed with air quick enough, plenum volume really has no relevance.