62 mm TB's - Page 6

FORTEEN3GT · 07-06-2004, 06:16 AM

yes it does... at a point inside the plenum where it is between 58-60sumthin mm!
that is where it will bottle neck.... but who knows i have never measured the inside neck of the plenum... where it starts bending up toward the runners.

no one has flow tested the upper intake... i am sure though that all the runners flow more than the equivalant of a 62mm opening!

FORTEEN3GT · 07-06-2004, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bszopi

The reason for the larger TB (plenum) opening is so that you can fill the plenum with air FASTER.

i re-read your post... know i know what you are getting at.... but it still shouldnt be that much faster than a 62mm! ..... well in this case i guess "bigger is better"!

sounds like it is more suited for better throttle response.

bszopi · 07-06-2004, 07:09 AM

I've posted this before, but...

65mm=2.56" = 5.15sq/in = 480cfm
62mm=2.44" = 4.67sq/in = 435cfm
58mm=2.28" = 4.08sq/in = 381cfm
56mm=2.20" = 3.8sq/in = 354cfm
52mm=2.05" = 3.3sq/in = 308cfm

Going from stock 56mm to 62mm is an increase of flow of ~18%. I see what you are saying about the neck area, but it also starts to widen in that area, so the cross-sectional volume becomes larger than the 62mm.

phantom505 · 07-22-2004, 08:38 PM

UPDATE: It's finnished. It just has to be verified and it should be just about ready to go into production.

speedyguy · 07-22-2004, 10:23 PM

I will get a flow bench of the ported 3.4l upper intake if it’s needed. I figured someone already has but if not it will be easy to do.

I am sure the difference of 3mm is going to be used on a well-ported upper from a 3.4l. That said the reason for a 65mm billet throttle body is a plan for the very near future that will require bigger flow.

Ty

Knappy1 · 07-23-2004, 05:09 AM

Sweet, when can we order?

phantom505 · 08-07-2004, 06:00 PM

Okay, it's done. I'm waiting to get one so I can put it on the non-function car, but otherwise it should be ready to go. Pictures soon to come.

snwman · 08-07-2004, 08:51 PM

great to see a company actually giving the grand am / 3400 community some respect.

Sprucegagt · 08-20-2004, 02:29 PM

Any updates on this. Pictures? Sale date? Thought this stuff was coming soon.

phantom505 · 08-20-2004, 02:51 PM

I'm not sure what's going on.... they should have been on his site by now. Anyway, I'll find out.

phantom505 · 09-11-2004, 07:03 PM

Can't wait... maybe you should make a Billet 65mm TB thread on this.....

coupe · 09-13-2004, 09:16 AM

I cant waite till they are for sale.

5-lO · 09-13-2004, 09:29 AM

Finally more products...

So they will sell the 65mm throttle body with a matched UIM?

In my reading it also apears they have a TB now for the 3500. Does this mean as well that they will sell a 3500 UIM that can bolt up to a 3400 LIM?

09-13-2004, 11:12 AM

Pictures of the FDP 65mm TB, should be the same except for the flange

http://60degreev6.com/GPXSS/3200/gpxss3200_01.jpg
http://60degreev6.com/GPXSS/2_26_03/dcp03242.jpg

Ill take some better pics tonight with my new digicam.

I'll sell my 65mm TB for $400 =D

phantom505 · 09-13-2004, 05:44 PM

Yes he will have a matched UIM. And yes there will be 2 versions, one to mount to the 3400 UIM and one to mount to the 3500 UIM.

I'm pretty sure it will look quite a bit different.... same functiontionality, so how different can it get?

FORTEEN3GT · 09-13-2004, 09:45 PM

hey... if you did provide an SC with great results better quality than rsm at a better price.. you might just stop me and others from buying a WS6 TA!

thanks for the new TB! i am sure it is as good a quality as the one i got from Franz!

speedyguy · 09-14-2004, 09:47 PM

Find a way to have both. You only live once and really what is wrong with having a little adventure sell your house and live in a trailer with all 5 of your very cool cars.

Ty

phantom505 · 09-14-2004, 10:21 PM

Dang it, quit letting my secrets out.

zhd1000 · 09-29-2004, 05:11 PM

any updates on this? i didn't see anything about it on DPs website, so what is the status of the project?

phantom505 · 09-29-2004, 10:14 PM

The machine shop left a message for Ty to call back tomorrow. I'll get an update as soon as I hear back.

07-06-2004, 06:16 AM	#101
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	yes it does... at a point inside the plenum where it is between 58-60sumthin mm! that is where it will bottle neck.... but who knows i have never measured the inside neck of the plenum... where it starts bending up toward the runners. no one has flow tested the upper intake... i am sure though that all the runners flow more than the equivalant of a 62mm opening! __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

07-22-2004, 08:38 PM	#104
phantom505 GAGTurbo Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Heltonville, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,576 Vehicle: '02 GAGT	UPDATE: It's finnished. It just has to be verified and it should be just about ready to go into production. __________________ It's ugly, and turbocharged! 264 HP and 284 ft/lbs at the wheels(@9psi), power curve like none other! And the transaxle to make it all work!

07-23-2004, 05:09 AM	#106
Knappy1 V6ONPSI Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 373 Vehicle: 2002 SC GT1	Sweet, when can we order? __________________ My Supercharged 02 Fast and Sexy...what more could you ask for?

08-07-2004, 06:00 PM	#107
phantom505 GAGTurbo Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Heltonville, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,576 Vehicle: '02 GAGT	Okay, it's done. I'm waiting to get one so I can put it on the non-function car, but otherwise it should be ready to go. Pictures soon to come. __________________ It's ugly, and turbocharged! 264 HP and 284 ft/lbs at the wheels(@9psi), power curve like none other! And the transaxle to make it all work!

08-07-2004, 08:51 PM	#108
snwman GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 39 Posts: 333 Vehicle: 2000 SilverMist SE	great to see a company actually giving the grand am / 3400 community some respect. __________________ 05 Subaru Impreza WRX Premium WR Pearl BLUE 3" Tuboback, Helix Uppipe, AEM EMS, AEM WideBand o2 18" Pearl Black Centerline RPM w/ Toyo Proxes 4 Rubberbands

07-06-2004, 07:09 AM	#103
bszopi User account under probation AKA: Brad Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rogers, AR Age: 46 Posts: 1,391 Vehicle: 1989 Ford Mustang	I've posted this before, but... 65mm=2.56" = 5.15sq/in = 480cfm 62mm=2.44" = 4.67sq/in = 435cfm 58mm=2.28" = 4.08sq/in = 381cfm 56mm=2.20" = 3.8sq/in = 354cfm 52mm=2.05" = 3.3sq/in = 308cfm Going from stock 56mm to 62mm is an increase of flow of ~18%. I see what you are saying about the neck area, but it also starts to widen in that area, so the cross-sectional volume becomes larger than the 62mm.

07-22-2004, 10:23 PM	#105
speedyguy GAGT - Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Califoronia Posts: 88 Vehicle: 99 Grand Am	I will get a flow bench of the ported 3.4l upper intake if it’s needed. I figured someone already has but if not it will be easy to do. I am sure the difference of 3mm is going to be used on a well-ported upper from a 3.4l. That said the reason for a 65mm billet throttle body is a plan for the very near future that will require bigger flow. Ty

08-20-2004, 02:29 PM	#109
Sprucegagt Schwartz Power! AKA: Andy Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ranson, WV Age: 46 Posts: 2,027 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	Any updates on this. Pictures? Sale date? Thought this stuff was coming soon. __________________ 2000 Grand Am GT (some day it will be SC/T) Mods: alot

08-20-2004, 02:51 PM	#110
phantom505 GAGTurbo Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Heltonville, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,576 Vehicle: '02 GAGT	I'm not sure what's going on.... they should have been on his site by now. Anyway, I'll find out. __________________ It's ugly, and turbocharged! 264 HP and 284 ft/lbs at the wheels(@9psi), power curve like none other! And the transaxle to make it all work!

09-11-2004, 07:03 PM	#111
phantom505 GAGTurbo Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Heltonville, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,576 Vehicle: '02 GAGT	Can't wait... maybe you should make a Billet 65mm TB thread on this..... __________________ It's ugly, and turbocharged! 264 HP and 284 ft/lbs at the wheels(@9psi), power curve like none other! And the transaxle to make it all work!

09-13-2004, 09:16 AM	#112
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	I cant waite till they are for sale. __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

09-13-2004, 09:29 AM	#113
5-lO Just bought a. . . AKA: Jon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 35 Posts: 2,950 Vehicle: 15 HD 48 XL1200X	Finally more products... So they will sell the 65mm throttle body with a matched UIM? In my reading it also apears they have a TB now for the 3500. Does this mean as well that they will sell a 3500 UIM that can bolt up to a 3400 LIM? __________________ CURRENT: WHATEVER I WANT OFF THE DEALER LOT AND 15 HARLEY DAVIDSON SPORTSTER 48: LED HEADLAMP, TURNS AND TAILS, PYTHON BLACK SLIP ONS, SCREAMING EAGLE BLACK EXHAUST SHIELDS. PREVIOUS: 03 GAGT, 04 MAZDASPEED MX-5, 06 TC, 02 SEVILLE STS, 07 HARLEY DAVIDSON NIGHTESTER, 10 MAZDA3 S SPORT MANUAL, 06 SUZUKI KATANA, 11 MAZDA 3 S GRAND TOURING MANUAL TECH, 13 MAZDASPEED3

09-13-2004, 11:12 AM	#114
GPXSS Guest Posts: n/a	Pictures of the FDP 65mm TB, should be the same except for the flange http://60degreev6.com/GPXSS/3200/gpxss3200_01.jpg http://60degreev6.com/GPXSS/2_26_03/dcp03242.jpg Ill take some better pics tonight with my new digicam. I'll sell my 65mm TB for $400 =D

09-13-2004, 05:44 PM	#115
phantom505 GAGTurbo Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Heltonville, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,576 Vehicle: '02 GAGT	Yes he will have a matched UIM. And yes there will be 2 versions, one to mount to the 3400 UIM and one to mount to the 3500 UIM. I'm pretty sure it will look quite a bit different.... same functiontionality, so how different can it get? __________________ It's ugly, and turbocharged! 264 HP and 284 ft/lbs at the wheels(@9psi), power curve like none other! And the transaxle to make it all work!

09-13-2004, 09:45 PM	#116
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	hey... if you did provide an SC with great results better quality than rsm at a better price.. you might just stop me and others from buying a WS6 TA! thanks for the new TB! i am sure it is as good a quality as the one i got from Franz! __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

09-14-2004, 09:47 PM	#117
speedyguy GAGT - Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Califoronia Posts: 88 Vehicle: 99 Grand Am	Find a way to have both. You only live once and really what is wrong with having a little adventure sell your house and live in a trailer with all 5 of your very cool cars. Ty

09-14-2004, 10:21 PM	#118
phantom505 GAGTurbo Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Heltonville, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,576 Vehicle: '02 GAGT	Dang it, quit letting my secrets out. __________________ It's ugly, and turbocharged! 264 HP and 284 ft/lbs at the wheels(@9psi), power curve like none other! And the transaxle to make it all work!

09-29-2004, 05:11 PM	#119
zhd1000 15.195 @ 89.82 AKA: Zach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rockton, IL Age: 36 Posts: 786 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	any updates on this? i didn't see anything about it on DPs website, so what is the status of the project?

09-29-2004, 10:14 PM	#120
phantom505 GAGTurbo Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Heltonville, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,576 Vehicle: '02 GAGT	The machine shop left a message for Ty to call back tomorrow. I'll get an update as soon as I hear back. __________________ It's ugly, and turbocharged! 264 HP and 284 ft/lbs at the wheels(@9psi), power curve like none other! And the transaxle to make it all work!

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