Just Because: Email sent to Magnuson (why I hate them!) - Page 4

07-27-2004, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTPprix

That would be me, I'm doing all the GA product development for ZZP. Theres not much to update right now it's still pretty much getting around to getting a car out there for an extended period, seeing how much it would cost ect. To be honest I don't want to have a "I WANT ONE!" product and when the time comes to shell out $3000 or whatever the crowd disappears, the crickets chirp and ZZP/Stattama is left with kits on thier shelf and nothing to cover R&D.

Chris, if I were you I would take deposits from the people who want the kits.

GTPprix · 07-27-2004, 06:48 AM

Stattama would need the car for roughly a month, since the GA is my fiance's ride I don't think she would like me doing that hehe.

FORTEEN3GT · 07-27-2004, 06:50 AM

WHAT ABOUT A RENTAL?

GTPprix · 07-27-2004, 06:55 AM

Hehe if I can convince them to do that, thats a GREAT idea

Although I would like to do this as cheap as possible so not a ton of R&D gets built into the kit price

FORTEEN3GT · 07-27-2004, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTPprix

Hehe if I can convince them to do that, thats a GREAT idea

Although I would like to do this as cheap as possible so not a ton of R&D gets built into the kit price

WHAT KIND OF MONEY ARE WE TALKING HERE??

R & D =??
CAR RENTAL

=??

PARTS =??

FORTEEN3GT · 07-27-2004, 07:57 AM

similiar to the Accord Blower!

07-27-2004, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

similiar to the Accord Blower!

I thought that the ZZP SC is a Centrifugal?

FORTEEN3GT · 07-27-2004, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KmanGT1

I thought that the ZZP SC is a Centrifugal?

no i was talking about the magnuson... i wonder if the accord blower can be made to fit a grand am?? good experament?

zzp is a paxton! the king of blowers!

07-27-2004, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

no i was talking about the magnuson... i wonder if the accord blower can be made to fit a grand am?? good experament?

zzp is a paxton! the king of blowers!

It is a different casting. It would not work with our setup.

Schweppe23 · 07-27-2004, 11:05 AM

Chris i may be willing to donate my car to the cause. Let me know

jturkey69 · 07-27-2004, 02:05 PM

i can live without my car for a month, what else do i need to know?

aleroboy · 07-27-2004, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KmanGT1

I talk to a guy named JP. There is also a guy in Tech Support, but I can't remember his name. I will find out today.

sweet please let me know. may be very usefull in the future

07-27-2004, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleroboy

sweet please let me know. may be very usefull in the future

I didn't get a chance to call today, but I will tomorrow.

aleroboy · 07-27-2004, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KmanGT1

I didn't get a chance to call today, but I will tomorrow.

thats cool. I know the feeling

Panacea · 07-27-2004, 09:30 PM

If there's a free kit involved for the donator, I would be willing to buy a beater for $500 and let them take a crack at my car

RAZE · 07-27-2004, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KmanGT1

I talk to a guy named JP. There is also a guy in Tech Support, but I can't remember his name. I will find out today.

Terent

07-28-2004, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAZE

Terent

That's the guy.

FORTEEN3GT · 07-28-2004, 06:30 AM

call ZZP and let them know we are serious!

FORTEEN3GT · 07-29-2004, 08:26 AM

Thank you for your interest in our products, but I regret to inform you that
we do not have any future plans to reproduce the Grand Am supercharger
system. We had over 300 customers interested in the package when the first
18 kits were released. It took us 4 months to move 18 kits which proved to
us that the market is just not there. We have changed the Grand Am tooling
for use with different kits to help rescue a complete loss and no longer
have any parts or manifolds. The only way I could help you at this point is
by building a custom supercharger. Fabrication, calibration, and
engineering of the complete kit would be in your hands. The custom MP62
runs between $1200-$1500.

Best regards,

Judd Reimers
Account Manager
Magnuson Products
Judd Reimers [sales@magnacharger.com]
www.magnusonproducts.com
www.magnacharger.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Stewart, Michael [mailto:mike.stewart@verizon.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:00 AM
To: sales@MagnaCharger.com
Subject: 1999-2004 Pontiac Grand Am SE/V6 with 3400 SFI
Importance: High

You guys discontinued the Magnuson M62 supercharger for this application.
Most likely the reason was lack of demand.

Well at the time the average 1999-2000 Grand Am GT retailed for 13k-19k.
Currently these cars can be purchased used for 6k-9k.

Obviously this has a huge impact on order capability and desire to purchase
such a kit. These blowers were offered thru the GM Dealer's as the SCT
package.

I have many fellow Grand Am enthusiasts who want one of these supercharger
kits! Only 8 kits are owned by www.grandamgt.com members. Our average
member is between the ages of 18-26 and is male, which is a prime market for
the automobile performance aftermarket industry.

What I am wanting to find out is :

1) Is there a potential the Magnuson will reconsider manufacturing the M62
kit for the N-body GM vehicles (Malibu, Grand Am and Alero)
2) Can we purchase what materials you have in stock (if any) on this
application?
3) Does magnuson still manufacture the Supercharger Drive Shaft and Mounting
Brackets for this application?
4) Do you sell the m62 Blower core separate...if so what is the price?
5) What remaining components need to be manufactured to produce kits for
this application? I have someone I believe that is capable of mass producing
the need Supercharger Outlet piece that is between the supercharger and the
throttle body.

WE GRAND AM OWNERS WANT A M62 KIT!!!!

To date the best 1/4 mile time with a m62 blower, intake, and exhaust for
the grand am is 14.1! That is very respectable!!! Our few members that own a
kit thank you guys for allowing Grand Am GT > GTP's!

Mike
(Forteen3GT)

AMRAAM4 · 07-29-2004, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

Thank you for your interest in our products, but I regret to inform you that
we do not have any future plans to reproduce the Grand Am supercharger
system. We had over 300 customers interested in the package when the first
18 kits were released. It took us 4 months to move 18 kits which proved to
us that the market is just not there. We have changed the Grand Am tooling
for use with different kits to help rescue a complete loss and no longer
have any parts or manifolds. The only way I could help you at this point is
by building a custom supercharger. Fabrication, calibration, and
engineering of the complete kit would be in your hands. The custom MP62
runs between $1200-$1500.

Best regards,

Judd Reimers
Account Manager
Magnuson Products
Judd Reimers [sales@magnacharger.com]
www.magnusonproducts.com
www.magnacharger.com

Can someone tell me just HOW THE FOCK he is helping you to "build a custom supercharger" when it is up to YOU to do the "fabrication, calibration, and engineering"???????? Hey Judd, or should a call you Mr. Richard Head, what the hell does your company do??????? Any person with a brain can go buy an MP62 core

07-27-2004, 06:48 AM	#62
GTPprix Ranch! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Macomb Township, MI Age: 41 Posts: 469 Vehicle: Pontiacs	Stattama would need the car for roughly a month, since the GA is my fiance's ride I don't think she would like me doing that hehe. __________________ 2006 GTO - Stock 2008 Trailblazer SS AWD Tune/Intake/CAI/Custom BCM 2009 Corvette Z06 - Stockish 2011 CTS-V 700CHP Custom BCM/IPC 2012 Acadia Denali - Custom BCM 2012 SRX - Custom BCM/IPC

07-27-2004, 06:50 AM	#63
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	WHAT ABOUT A RENTAL? __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

07-27-2004, 06:55 AM	#64
GTPprix Ranch! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Macomb Township, MI Age: 41 Posts: 469 Vehicle: Pontiacs	Hehe if I can convince them to do that, thats a GREAT idea Although I would like to do this as cheap as possible so not a ton of R&D gets built into the kit price __________________ 2006 GTO - Stock 2008 Trailblazer SS AWD Tune/Intake/CAI/Custom BCM 2009 Corvette Z06 - Stockish 2011 CTS-V 700CHP Custom BCM/IPC 2012 Acadia Denali - Custom BCM 2012 SRX - Custom BCM/IPC

07-27-2004, 07:57 AM	#66
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	similiar to the Accord Blower! __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner Last edited by FORTEEN3GT; 07-27-2004 at 08:01 AM.

07-27-2004, 11:05 AM	#70
Schweppe23 GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 1,549 Vehicle: Pontiac	Chris i may be willing to donate my car to the cause. Let me know __________________ First 99+ GAGT to run 14s First E/M (only) GA to run 13s First turbo'D GAGT to run 12s 11's coming soon

07-27-2004, 02:05 PM	#71
jturkey69 redlineorlickmine AKA: Jon Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sheboygan, WI Age: 46 Posts: 99 Vehicle: 2002 alero gl2 3.4 V6	i can live without my car for a month, what else do i need to know? __________________ 02 Alero slammed and kitted 00 Ford Excursion 7.3 4X4 straight piped, filtered, and SCT tuned three tunes so far..60hp, 80 hp, 110 hp. 290 whp 660 wtrq

07-27-2004, 09:30 PM	#75
Panacea Mmmm Donuts. AKA: Macleod52 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rock Island, IL Age: 40 Posts: 3,160 Vehicle: '09 Malibu LTZ	If there's a free kit involved for the donator, I would be willing to buy a beater for $500 and let them take a crack at my car

07-28-2004, 06:30 AM	#78
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	call ZZP and let them know we are serious! __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

07-29-2004, 08:26 AM	#79
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	Magnuson's reply!!!! Thank you for your interest in our products, but I regret to inform you that we do not have any future plans to reproduce the Grand Am supercharger system. We had over 300 customers interested in the package when the first 18 kits were released. It took us 4 months to move 18 kits which proved to us that the market is just not there. We have changed the Grand Am tooling for use with different kits to help rescue a complete loss and no longer have any parts or manifolds. The only way I could help you at this point is by building a custom supercharger. Fabrication, calibration, and engineering of the complete kit would be in your hands. The custom MP62 runs between $1200-$1500. Best regards, Judd Reimers Account Manager Magnuson Products Judd Reimers [sales@magnacharger.com] www.magnusonproducts.com www.magnacharger.com -----Original Message----- From: Stewart, Michael [mailto:mike.stewart@verizon.com] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:00 AM To: sales@MagnaCharger.com Subject: 1999-2004 Pontiac Grand Am SE/V6 with 3400 SFI Importance: High You guys discontinued the Magnuson M62 supercharger for this application. Most likely the reason was lack of demand. Well at the time the average 1999-2000 Grand Am GT retailed for 13k-19k. Currently these cars can be purchased used for 6k-9k. Obviously this has a huge impact on order capability and desire to purchase such a kit. These blowers were offered thru the GM Dealer's as the SCT package. I have many fellow Grand Am enthusiasts who want one of these supercharger kits! Only 8 kits are owned by www.grandamgt.com members. Our average member is between the ages of 18-26 and is male, which is a prime market for the automobile performance aftermarket industry. What I am wanting to find out is : 1) Is there a potential the Magnuson will reconsider manufacturing the M62 kit for the N-body GM vehicles (Malibu, Grand Am and Alero) 2) Can we purchase what materials you have in stock (if any) on this application? 3) Does magnuson still manufacture the Supercharger Drive Shaft and Mounting Brackets for this application? 4) Do you sell the m62 Blower core separate...if so what is the price? 5) What remaining components need to be manufactured to produce kits for this application? I have someone I believe that is capable of mass producing the need Supercharger Outlet piece that is between the supercharger and the throttle body. WE GRAND AM OWNERS WANT A M62 KIT!!!! To date the best 1/4 mile time with a m62 blower, intake, and exhaust for the grand am is 14.1! That is very respectable!!! Our few members that own a kit thank you guys for allowing Grand Am GT > GTP's! Mike (Forteen3GT) __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

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