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06-25-2005, 10:57 PM
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GAGT - Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Orangeburg, SC
Age: 37
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Vehicle: 1995 Grand Am GT sedan
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ok what would i need to do sensor wise, to put a stage 1 cam into my GA? i have a 95 GT with a 99 3400 motor. i am about to get ported intakes, heads, and a 62mm tb also.
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06-26-2005, 08:07 AM
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BlingWithBallz
 
AKA: Aaron
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Detroit area, MI
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You have an impala and I assume you are a member of that site. I nominate you...  .ace_ga. read back a little, the answer is there. Your car originally had a 3100 but the cam trigger was the same as the 3400 which is why the 99' 3400 works with your pcm. The 3400 used 3 different cam triggers from '95 to '99, '00 to '03, and '04+. The new cam uses the '04 style trigger but will work with both the '00-'03 and '04+ cam sensor. If you have a '95-'99 style cam/sensor/pcm, you will need to change the sensor to a '00-'03 sensor and use a harness adapter that will be available from milzy. Then the cam will work in your car.
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The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package. Last edited by AaronGTR; 06-26-2005 at 08:14 AM. |
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06-26-2005, 05:47 PM
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User account under probation
 
AKA: Brad
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Aaron, you need to reread... The years are 93-99, 00-02, and 03+. And 3400s didn't come out until 96.
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06-27-2005, 04:20 AM
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BlingWithBallz
AKA: Aaron
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Detroit area, MI
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Whatever... I'm sure they were in some cars in late '95 as '96 models. Why argue semantics? The informations was still correct for what he needs.
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06-27-2005, 08:01 AM
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User account under probation
AKA: Brad
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Caue I just like giving you crap...
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06-27-2005, 08:20 AM
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Fastest FWD GA
 
AKA: Mike
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Dayton, OH
Age: 41
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Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT
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wow, lots of posts since I read last.
many of you said that the stage 2 cam/heads require supporting mods to see the true potential of the power gain, and i couldn't agree more. some of you may think Tim is making excuses about weather or whatever adversely affecting his times. the facts are this ... he ran a 14.9 in the winter (or atleast winter-like weather) before these mods, and he ran 14.8 afterwords in the summer. granted it may not be as hot as it is in texas, but i think the humidity if more detrimetal than temp. so i guess the real test is what his car will run once the weather cools off some more. great times Tim, and can't wait to see some more. what's the NA record for a GA at this point? what's the fastest record period? and tim, i really think that 60ft is also holding up your times. i think we can get your car down to like a 2.0 60 ft without too much trouble. that would take 3-4 tenths off right there. what 60ft did you have with your old 14.9 record?
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1999 Z34 - Was a Stage 3 3800 Supercharged, but not fast enough so I have some new plans for her. 1999 Grand Am GT Race Car - 12.1 sec ET, STOCK motor, 10 psi http://www.milzymotorsports.com Last edited by MilzyZ34; 06-27-2005 at 08:23 AM. |
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06-27-2005, 09:34 AM
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All Motor
 
AKA: Tim
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Whitby, Ontario
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Note my old time was in November. Not sure if that means anything or not. 2.0 would be good!! With torque management disabled and a stall converter, I think I might be able to get better than that.... (pending traction). Since the car sounds different, I haven't been able to figure out where the RPM's are when launching (hence crappy RT's). I'm thinking I should be able to stage at 3200 rpm, but we'll see. I will be getting some Yokohoma All Seasons for winter, and if I can afford it, come spring, I'll buy some nice summer tires and rims  xon
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06-27-2005, 10:16 AM
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User account under probation
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If you are talking 60V6 NA top time, I'm pretty sure it is Colin with his 13.9 run, and that's with a hybrid 3.1/3100 in a J-body.
Pretty sure Curtis has the fastest boosted time with his 12.3s. Should be quicker once he gets it fixed and running correctly again... |
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06-27-2005, 04:00 PM
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BlingWithBallz
AKA: Aaron
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Think they're talking for 99+ GA though. Top NA time is 14.79@91 and top boosted time is 13.52@102.
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06-27-2005, 07:00 PM
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SLP'ed
AKA: Brad
Join Date: Dec 2004
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I think Blackrider probably has the fastest N/A time...
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06-28-2005, 06:16 AM
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Texas's fastest GAGT
 
AKA: Mike
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14.6's?????? IIRC     you won't believe it anyway!
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06-29-2005, 06:47 PM
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just go for it
AKA: Eric
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Houston, TX
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well the car got dynoed tonight...184 at the wheels. That's 24 more than I had before the cam. A little lower than I expected but I guess I was being overly optimistic. I was just assuming more since the listed specs on milzys website were 30 horse at the wheels for the stage 1 cam and I have the stage 2. Oh well. At least I can keep up with matt now.
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06-29-2005, 07:34 PM
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AKA: Brad
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Hey Eric, what were your mods before the cam swap, and what all was done with the cam swap? I tried going back to figure it out, and I think I know, but I want to be fore sure...
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06-29-2005, 07:40 PM
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just go for it
AKA: Eric
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Location: Houston, TX
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before the cam was borla, S&S Headers, Heads-LIM-UIM(All done by colin who did blackriders stuff), and 62MM TB. For the cam install I had a CAI installed, cam obviously, and a dyno tune.
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06-30-2005, 03:34 AM
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User account under probation
AKA: Brad
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Do you have the 2 graphs? Wouldn't mind comparing the curves to see how the powerband shifted.
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06-30-2005, 06:56 AM
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Fastest FWD GA
AKA: Mike
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Dayton, OH
Age: 41
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Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT
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i'm pretty sure we quoted 30hp at the crank. which 24whp just happens to be
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06-30-2005, 08:04 AM
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User account under probation
AKA: Brad
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Your store says, for a Stage 2, 50hp or more when used with supporting mods. The only supporting mods he doesn't have would be the PCM (which I'm sure is hurting him). That would mean the PCM would have to account for the other 16+hp, which there is a chance it could...
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06-30-2005, 08:09 AM
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Texas's fastest GAGT
AKA: Mike
Join Date: Jul 2003
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that should be good for 200WHP..... or 250 Crank.
If you dont put down 14.2's to 14.5's with tuning, I would be disappointed 
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06-30-2005, 08:17 AM
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Fastest FWD GA
AKA: Mike
Join Date: Aug 2003
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06-30-2005, 03:40 PM
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just go for it
AKA: Eric
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Houston, TX
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already have the tune. Don't need a pcm. Had it tuned out there by mike. I figured at least 200 at the crank assuming I put down 160 before the cam, tune, and CAI. I thought it would at least net me 40 more horse. But as I said I was being overly optimistic. 184 is pretty decent.
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