3x00 cams - Page 32

xonelith · 07-09-2005, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schweppe23

Wow, good job Tim

with some slicks/tuning/weight red. you could break into the 13s.

that would be great. I have bought a cf hood, it's just not on yet. Not sure if I'll go slicks or not, but we'll see. Tuning for sure....

xonelith · 07-10-2005, 12:10 AM

Well, I went to the track again today and did 10 more runs. The temperature was a few degrees cooler and I removed the tire and jack from my trunk. I changed my 2-3 shift up by 1mph and added 1 degree of timing.

My first run was a 14.780@95.54. I was pretty happy with this since it was earlier in the day than last nights runs and it was a better time!!

I then ran a 14.318@96.67. I thought this was going to be my best time.

The following were the remaining times for the day:

14.372@98.90
14.312@97.81
14.222@98.02 - I was going to quit after this one figuring this was lucky

14.211@97.46 - glad I went again!!

14.195@97.84 - this surprised me...

14.225@97.79
14.308@97.36
14.289@97.84 - Last run... thought I could beat the other!! NOPE

Thanks Milzy and HPTuners..... this surpassed my expectations! Now for a trip to the dyno to finalize my tuning. Maybe 13's arent' that far off in stock trim

mfuller · 07-10-2005, 01:27 AM

Most impressive. Congrats.

atc3434 · 07-10-2005, 05:17 AM

Damn boy. F'n A! Much props. For all those in doubt of the cam, behold the results. Very very impressive. Imagine what a converter and final drive ratio change would do.

FORTEEN3GT · 07-10-2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tejohnson

Perhaps the 1.0 has much higher shift points than the 1.5.

EDIT: Had to make a smilie for this one

I installed the 1.5 over my 1.0.................. shifts are identical! feels the exact same. I was afraid of losing the advantages of the standard 1.0 on the GAGT.... nope..... seems like the 1.5 is a copy of the 1.0! those who are considering the 1.0 should just buy the powertuner!

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a consistant 14.2 car with bad tires and warmer weather. you probably have a 13.9 car with slicks, no front passanger seat (sucker weighs about 40 lbs!!, race gas, and more timing! do you have any logs of the runs???

this is making me reconsider trading the gagt in!!! heck... i will be nuts to have 3 pontiac cars and a ford truck!!

sc02grandam · 07-10-2005, 10:34 AM

very VERY nice times.. how much do you think you've spent on engine upgrades total?

xonelith · 07-10-2005, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc02grandam

very VERY nice times.. how much do you think you've spent on engine upgrades total?

Well, I haven't spent as much as some, but probably more than most. Including my Alpine CD/MP3 player and CF hood (just picked it up today), I've spent around 7000 Canadian (that's like what 4 dollars american??). Engine upgrades alone are probably around 2500 Canadian. Exhaust around 1200 Canadian. And headers (not quite sure which category to place that in; exhaust? Engine?).

Anyway, still alot to buy.....

I think tires are first. The stockers are really worn. Probably go with a Yokohoma All Season for now, since I need the car for winter. Maybe next year, I'll get some flat black rims & summer tires.

Next would definitely be an engine mount and a pulley. I've noticebly lost torque and I hope these things will help.

I'm not sure a larger TB is going to do anything for me at the time. I hafta hit the dyno to see if enough air is getting in. I think it is since I have to run rich right now (o2's are 930 - 960 at WOT). Maybe once I get the tuning figured out, it will be apparent that that is what I need. Probably bigger injectors if I need a larger TB. My biggest problem is the price of these TB's.... hard to justify.

The main thing that I think is needed is tranny work..... not sure on the $$ or what needs (or is available) to be done, but I don't think it will last.

I think Milzy is definitely on the right track with his work. I would recommend this setup to anyone looking for a gain. Even stage I I'm sure would help. My gas mileage still remains pretty much the same (except when using alot of WOT; expected). If you don't like a lobey idle, then this is not for you

bszopi · 07-10-2005, 02:53 PM

You'll loose even more low end torque with a larger throttle body.

99blackSE · 07-10-2005, 03:45 PM

Congrats xonelith, those times are awesome.

xonelith · 07-11-2005, 09:34 PM

Well I posted my dyno results in another thread. 203.41HP and 193.83 Torque. Not bad for 99* temps.

MilzyZ34 · 07-13-2005, 08:43 AM

Tim, your car never ceases to amaze me. Congratulations on some awesome ET's, and your dyno runs are equally impressive. keep up the good work, and good luck on your quest for 13's. you're not too far off.

FORTEEN3GT · 07-13-2005, 01:52 PM

32 pages????? wow!! whats the record?

Kyle · 07-16-2005, 07:03 PM

Did anyone get there cam installed by anyone other then milzy?

Schweppe23 · 07-16-2005, 09:17 PM

My cam from Comp, should be going in next week as long as I don't get held up on anything. And I believe Aarongtr did his own as well. So far all of the cam'd cars running around here have been done by Milzy, why do u ask?

bu01 · 07-16-2005, 09:35 PM

yuor cam is a regrind?

Schweppe23 · 07-16-2005, 09:46 PM

nope, custom billet job here.

Kyle · 07-17-2005, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schweppe23

My cam from Comp, should be going in next week as long as I don't get held up on anything. And I believe Aarongtr did his own as well. So far all of the cam'd cars running around here have been done by Milzy, why do u ask?

I was just wondering because Ohio is too far for me to travel to have milzy put it in.

Schweppe23 · 07-17-2005, 04:43 AM

No prob, almost any shop can do this, but it takes the amish ones a little longer

Kyle · 07-17-2005, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schweppe23

No prob, almost any shop can do this, but it takes the amish ones a little longer

I hope a shop can do it because I know that it don't come with instructions so I don't know if they would do it or not.

izayn · 07-17-2005, 06:30 AM

Just a question about cams

Why dosen't the off the shelf cam kits from places like comp, crane, engine-parts.com.....etc not work with the 3100 and 3400?

I tried searching but I couldn't find anything that answered the question directly.

07-10-2005, 12:10 AM	#622
xonelith All Motor AKA: Tim Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Whitby, Ontario Age: 48 Posts: 400 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT1 Coup	Well, I went to the track again today and did 10 more runs. The temperature was a few degrees cooler and I removed the tire and jack from my trunk. I changed my 2-3 shift up by 1mph and added 1 degree of timing. My first run was a 14.780@95.54. I was pretty happy with this since it was earlier in the day than last nights runs and it was a better time!! I then ran a 14.318@96.67. I thought this was going to be my best time. The following were the remaining times for the day: 14.372@98.90 14.312@97.81 14.222@98.02 - I was going to quit after this one figuring this was lucky 14.211@97.46 - glad I went again!! 14.195@97.84 - this surprised me... 14.225@97.79 14.308@97.36 14.289@97.84 - Last run... thought I could beat the other!! NOPE Thanks Milzy and HPTuners..... this surpassed my expectations! Now for a trip to the dyno to finalize my tuning. Maybe 13's arent' that far off in stock trim Attached Thumbnails __________________ All Motor 2001 GA GT1 Best 1/8 - 9.104 @ 79.36 MPH Best 1/4 - 13.991 @ 99.13 MPH Last edited by xonelith; 07-10-2005 at 12:13 AM.

07-10-2005, 01:27 AM	#623
mfuller Mr. Common Sense AKA: Matt Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Loves Park, IL USA Age: 47 Posts: 2,031 Vehicle: 2000 Alero GLS sedan	Most impressive. Congrats. __________________ Matt - Resident brake and suspension guru Also, your friendly Performance and Technical Moderator *Please don't tailgate, text and drive, drink and drive, or otherwise act like an asshat.* Questioning if it will ever run again.....

07-10-2005, 05:17 AM	#624
atc3434 Grand Am Again AKA: Andrew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auburn, NY Age: 38 Posts: 1,999 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE	Damn boy. F'n A! Much props. For all those in doubt of the cam, behold the results. Very very impressive. Imagine what a converter and final drive ratio change would do. __________________ 1999 Grand Am SE2 - Blue, TOG Headers, SLP Exhaust, DHP - SOLD 1996 Vert' Z-28 - M6, magnaflow muffler-back, K&N FIPK, Hurst Short-throw - 13.6 @ 103mph. 2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona - Go Mango Orange #2832 of 4000. Tune/exhaust. 14.009@97mph. 2002 Saab 9 5 Aero Wagon - 3" turboback/tune. 17psi of sleeper fun just waiting to surprise you.

07-10-2005, 10:34 AM	#626
sc02grandam GAGT - Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Edmonton/ Saskatoon, CANADA Age: 41 Posts: 920 Vehicle: 02 GT coupe.. SC	very VERY nice times.. how much do you think you've spent on engine upgrades total? __________________ my car click here to listen to the supercharger and exhaust

07-10-2005, 03:45 PM	#629
99blackSE SLP'ed AKA: Brad Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beausejour, Manitoba, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 287 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Coupe	Congrats xonelith, those times are awesome. __________________ 1999 GA SE - written off by hit and run - '04-'08 1998 Civic Si - just in time for rising gas prices

07-10-2005, 02:53 PM	#628
bszopi User account under probation AKA: Brad Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rogers, AR Age: 46 Posts: 1,391 Vehicle: 1989 Ford Mustang	You'll loose even more low end torque with a larger throttle body.

07-11-2005, 09:34 PM	#630
xonelith All Motor AKA: Tim Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Whitby, Ontario Age: 48 Posts: 400 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT1 Coup	Well I posted my dyno results in another thread. 203.41HP and 193.83 Torque. Not bad for 99* temps. __________________ All Motor 2001 GA GT1 Best 1/8 - 9.104 @ 79.36 MPH Best 1/4 - 13.991 @ 99.13 MPH

07-13-2005, 08:43 AM	#631
MilzyZ34 Fastest FWD GA AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dayton, OH Age: 41 Posts: 964 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT	Tim, your car never ceases to amaze me. Congratulations on some awesome ET's, and your dyno runs are equally impressive. keep up the good work, and good luck on your quest for 13's. you're not too far off. __________________ 1999 Z34 - Was a Stage 3 3800 Supercharged, but not fast enough so I have some new plans for her. 1999 Grand Am GT Race Car - 12.1 sec ET, STOCK motor, 10 psi http://www.milzymotorsports.com

07-13-2005, 01:52 PM	#632
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	32 pages????? wow!! whats the record? __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

07-16-2005, 07:03 PM	#633
Kyle GAGT - Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 35 Posts: 337 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	Did anyone get there cam installed by anyone other then milzy?

07-16-2005, 09:17 PM	#634
Schweppe23 GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 1,549 Vehicle: Pontiac	My cam from Comp, should be going in next week as long as I don't get held up on anything. And I believe Aarongtr did his own as well. So far all of the cam'd cars running around here have been done by Milzy, why do u ask? __________________ First 99+ GAGT to run 14s First E/M (only) GA to run 13s First turbo'D GAGT to run 12s 11's coming soon

07-16-2005, 09:35 PM	#635
bu01 I own Sikmindz AKA: gilbert Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: mission hills, CA Age: 37 Posts: 494 Vehicle: 02 WS6 326rwhp/346rwtq	yuor cam is a regrind?

07-16-2005, 09:46 PM	#636
Schweppe23 GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 1,549 Vehicle: Pontiac	nope, custom billet job here. __________________ First 99+ GAGT to run 14s First E/M (only) GA to run 13s First turbo'D GAGT to run 12s 11's coming soon

07-17-2005, 04:43 AM	#638
Schweppe23 GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 1,549 Vehicle: Pontiac	No prob, almost any shop can do this, but it takes the amish ones a little longer __________________ First 99+ GAGT to run 14s First E/M (only) GA to run 13s First turbo'D GAGT to run 12s 11's coming soon

07-17-2005, 06:30 AM	#640
izayn Fast like the Car AKA: Randy Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Jackson, TN and Chicago IL Age: 46 Posts: 229 Vehicle: 2001 Grand AM GT 4dr	Just a question about cams Why dosen't the off the shelf cam kits from places like comp, crane, engine-parts.com.....etc not work with the 3100 and 3400? I tried searching but I couldn't find anything that answered the question directly.

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