3x00 cams - Page 34

xxbackhillxx · 07-19-2005, 07:53 AM

Perfectly streetable. I drive my car around 150 miles each week. If anything, my engine runs cooler, but I think it's because of the t-stat I installed.

xonelith · 07-19-2005, 08:11 PM

Also, gas mileage remains the same (if not better) if you're not at WOT. I drive mine daily as well ( approx 600 km's per day ). I plan to drive in winter as well. YOU NEED TO INCREASE YOUR IDLE. I bumped mine up to 950 and it still sounds cammed, but not like it is ready to stall.

The only problem I have so far is my power steering fluid seeps out by the filler cap. This, I think, is because I'm shifting (at WOT) at about 6500 rpm (with transmission slip, I'm hitting 6800). I assume the power steering pump is not made for revs that high. I'm guessing an smaller underdrive will cure that problem.

MilzyZ34 · 07-20-2005, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xonelith

Also, gas mileage remains the same (if not better) if you're not at WOT. I drive mine daily as well ( approx 600 km's per day ). I plan to drive in winter as well. YOU NEED TO INCREASE YOUR IDLE. I bumped mine up to 950 and it still sounds cammed, but not like it is ready to stall.

The only problem I have so far is my power steering fluid seeps out by the filler cap. This, I think, is because I'm shifting (at WOT) at about 6500 rpm (with transmission slip, I'm hitting 6800). I assume the power steering pump is not made for revs that high. I'm guessing an smaller underdrive will cure that problem.

every car is different, but on Tom's car, we left the idle around 750 rpm's? i just did some pcm work for him a week or so ago, and asked if it needed bumped up, but he said it was cool where it was.

you may have stumbled upon something with the p.s. pulley. i haven't heard of rev's being an issue with one, but not many people are taking these cars to the limit. if rpm's do play a factor, than a underdrive pulley will definately help. if that doesn't fix it, it's something else.

FORTEEN3GT · 07-20-2005, 07:54 AM

Miltzy... how many cams do you have currently??

MilzyZ34 · 07-20-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

Miltzy... how many cams do you have currently??

that's not a good question to ask right now

. i've got a stage 2 on the shelf, and i placed another order a few days ago. shouldn't be too long before those come in. if any of you are considering getting a cam say within the next 3-4 weeks, i'd appreciate it if you could let me know and tell me what cam in particular you're thinking about, and i'll make sure to have enough in stock. it's just tough to keep cams in stock at this point, which isn't a bad thing, we'll just need to order more and more as demand goes up.

FORTEEN3GT · 07-20-2005, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilzyZ34

that's not a good question to ask right now

. i've got a stage 2 on the shelf, and i placed another order a few days ago. shouldn't be too long before those come in. if any of you are considering getting a cam say within the next 3-4 weeks, i'd appreciate it if you could let me know and tell me what cam in particular you're thinking about, and i'll make sure to have enough in stock. it's just tough to keep cams in stock at this point, which isn't a bad thing, we'll just need to order more and more as demand goes up.

so is the demand what you expected??? better or worse... do you see it picking up?

I am curious who all is modding these cars???

MilzyZ34 · 07-20-2005, 10:25 AM

here's how i think the demand is ...

basically there were some skeptics, and now we have good solid results of gains on a dyno and at the track, i would say most of these skeptics have been convinced, although i don't deny there may still be some. anyways, now that these skeptics have seen what these parts do, i think they now have these mods on their wish list. after these very positive results, in this aftermarket, the demand will not instantly go up. some of these parts are expensive and require some saving up, so i would anticipate a 1-2 month delay before the demand really hits us. so yes i think the demand is there and increasing, but right now people are just saving up. that's my opinion, and i could be wrong.

as far as being what i expected, yeah i think the project is going well. i'm getting to the point where i need to think about how fast i can sell 50 cams if i make a bigger order, and/or how much more i want to invest into the project.

as far as my goals for the season, my first was 13's NA in a GA, then once we do a cammed 3400 w-body, i wanted to put one of those into the 13's NA. not to be too confident, but i think we're close on the first goal. Tim is a good 60 ft away from completing that one.

Kyle · 07-20-2005, 11:51 AM

Did you sell any stage one cams and do you have any in stock?

O1GAGT · 07-20-2005, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle

Did you sell any stage one cams and do you have any in stock?

Yes, did you sell any stage 1 cams yet and if so any word on the #'s they are putting out? I am kinda holding out to see the differences between the stage 1 and stage 2.

MilzyZ34 · 07-21-2005, 10:05 AM

getting ready to install the last stage 1 cam at the same time i do a 3400 swap in a 96 monte carlo ls. should be done within the next week. Kyle if you order a stage 1, i can have one probably within a week or two.

i sent a couple out, but i don't think they've been installed yet.

Kyle · 07-22-2005, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilzyZ34

getting ready to install the last stage 1 cam at the same time i do a 3400 swap in a 96 monte carlo ls. should be done within the next week. Kyle if you order a stage 1, i can have one probably within a week or two.

i sent a couple out, but i don't think they've been installed yet.

I am going to order it but I have to save up some still.

xxbackhillxx · 07-23-2005, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilzyZ34

every car is different, but on Tom's car, we left the idle around 750 rpm's? i just did some pcm work for him a week or so ago, and asked if it needed bumped up, but he said it was cool where it was.

you may have stumbled upon something with the p.s. pulley. i haven't heard of rev's being an issue with one, but not many people are taking these cars to the limit. if rpm's do play a factor, than a underdrive pulley will definately help. if that doesn't fix it, it's something else.

I'm not sure what it idled at before, but its still higher than before.

O1GAGT · 07-30-2005, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilzyZ34

getting ready to install the last stage 1 cam at the same time i do a 3400 swap in a 96 monte carlo ls. should be done within the next week. Kyle if you order a stage 1, i can have one probably within a week or two.

i sent a couple out, but i don't think they've been installed yet.

Hey I was just wondering if you installed the stage 1 cam yet and how it performs, I am still torn between the stage 1 or the stage 2 cam.

MilzyZ34 · 07-31-2005, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O1GAGT

Hey I was just wondering if you installed the stage 1 cam yet and how it performs, I am still torn between the stage 1 or the stage 2 cam.

put the motor in the car today. i will probably be starting it tomorrow. the owner will pick the car up on tuesday, and i'm sure he'll post about how the cam performs.

Kyle · 08-02-2005, 10:08 AM

Any word yet?

MilzyZ34 · 08-02-2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle

Any word yet?

car starts and runs good, idle is actually not as lopey as i thought. of course with the massive exhaust leak, it might be hard to hear it. the last guy who worked on it cracked the crossover at the flex, nice big puffs of exhaust coming out. tonight i'm going back overthere with my laptop to scan it, install the new crossover, and make sure it's good to go, then drive it back to my house for the owner to pick it up. he's not coming till this weekend now i guess.

O1GAGT · 08-02-2005, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilzyZ34

car starts and runs good, idle is actually not as lopey as i thought. of course with the massive exhaust leak, it might be hard to hear it. the last guy who worked on it cracked the crossover at the flex, nice big puffs of exhaust coming out. tonight i'm going back overthere with my laptop to scan it, install the new crossover, and make sure it's good to go, then drive it back to my house for the owner to pick it up. he's not coming till this weekend now i guess.

Cool, is there any way we could possibly get a sound clip or vid clip of the stage 1 like there is of the stage 2 cam, and you might also want to put those Vids up on your site, it might help move more cams.

oudidntkn0w · 08-02-2005, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O1GAGT

Cool, is there any way we could possibly get a sound clip or vid clip of the stage 1 like there is of the stage 2 cam, and you might also want to put those Vids up on your site, it might help move more cams.

yes yes, let me hear/see my car

Im so anxious, I cant sleep

but it sounds like everything is going good so far. I didnt want a huge lopey idle, just something stuble and mean. Cant wait to embrass the local r1ce

why is r1ce "****" 'ed out

MilzyZ34 · 08-03-2005, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O1GAGT

Cool, is there any way we could possibly get a sound clip or vid clip of the stage 1 like there is of the stage 2 cam, and you might also want to put those Vids up on your site, it might help move more cams.

we will have a vid clip within a week up for the stage 1 cam. the guy who posted below you is Matt, the guy responsible for my website. i've been bugging him to get that stage 2 vid on the site for a while now, but he's been busy. i'm sure he'll get to it pretty soon.

Matt, i put the new crossover on, and the exhaust leaks are gone. car seems to be running even better also. I haven't really got on it that much, but we drove it from the shop 1/2 hr to my house, and it went great. we do need to talk about what you want to do to that tire though.

xonelith · 08-03-2005, 08:57 AM

I have a video done of the Stage II at idle and at the track. I'll be posting it once I figure out how to get the analog video (ya, i'm old school) to my computer

07-19-2005, 08:11 PM	#662
xonelith All Motor AKA: Tim Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Whitby, Ontario Age: 48 Posts: 400 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT1 Coup	Also, gas mileage remains the same (if not better) if you're not at WOT. I drive mine daily as well ( approx 600 km's per day ). I plan to drive in winter as well. YOU NEED TO INCREASE YOUR IDLE. I bumped mine up to 950 and it still sounds cammed, but not like it is ready to stall. The only problem I have so far is my power steering fluid seeps out by the filler cap. This, I think, is because I'm shifting (at WOT) at about 6500 rpm (with transmission slip, I'm hitting 6800). I assume the power steering pump is not made for revs that high. I'm guessing an smaller underdrive will cure that problem. __________________ All Motor 2001 GA GT1 Best 1/8 - 9.104 @ 79.36 MPH Best 1/4 - 13.991 @ 99.13 MPH

07-20-2005, 07:54 AM	#664
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	Miltzy... how many cams do you have currently?? __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

07-20-2005, 10:25 AM	#667
MilzyZ34 Fastest FWD GA AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dayton, OH Age: 41 Posts: 964 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT	here's how i think the demand is ... basically there were some skeptics, and now we have good solid results of gains on a dyno and at the track, i would say most of these skeptics have been convinced, although i don't deny there may still be some. anyways, now that these skeptics have seen what these parts do, i think they now have these mods on their wish list. after these very positive results, in this aftermarket, the demand will not instantly go up. some of these parts are expensive and require some saving up, so i would anticipate a 1-2 month delay before the demand really hits us. so yes i think the demand is there and increasing, but right now people are just saving up. that's my opinion, and i could be wrong. as far as being what i expected, yeah i think the project is going well. i'm getting to the point where i need to think about how fast i can sell 50 cams if i make a bigger order, and/or how much more i want to invest into the project. as far as my goals for the season, my first was 13's NA in a GA, then once we do a cammed 3400 w-body, i wanted to put one of those into the 13's NA. not to be too confident, but i think we're close on the first goal. Tim is a good 60 ft away from completing that one. __________________ 1999 Z34 - Was a Stage 3 3800 Supercharged, but not fast enough so I have some new plans for her. 1999 Grand Am GT Race Car - 12.1 sec ET, STOCK motor, 10 psi http://www.milzymotorsports.com

07-21-2005, 10:05 AM	#670
MilzyZ34 Fastest FWD GA AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dayton, OH Age: 41 Posts: 964 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT	getting ready to install the last stage 1 cam at the same time i do a 3400 swap in a 96 monte carlo ls. should be done within the next week. Kyle if you order a stage 1, i can have one probably within a week or two. i sent a couple out, but i don't think they've been installed yet. __________________ 1999 Z34 - Was a Stage 3 3800 Supercharged, but not fast enough so I have some new plans for her. 1999 Grand Am GT Race Car - 12.1 sec ET, STOCK motor, 10 psi http://www.milzymotorsports.com

08-03-2005, 08:57 AM	#680
xonelith All Motor AKA: Tim Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Whitby, Ontario Age: 48 Posts: 400 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT1 Coup	I have a video done of the Stage II at idle and at the track. I'll be posting it once I figure out how to get the analog video (ya, i'm old school) to my computer __________________ All Motor 2001 GA GT1 Best 1/8 - 9.104 @ 79.36 MPH Best 1/4 - 13.991 @ 99.13 MPH

07-20-2005, 11:51 AM	#668
Kyle GAGT - Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 35 Posts: 337 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	Did you sell any stage one cams and do you have any in stock?

08-02-2005, 10:08 AM	#675
Kyle GAGT - Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 35 Posts: 337 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	Any word yet?

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