3x00 cams - Page 35

MilzyZ34 · 08-03-2005, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xonelith

I have a video done of the Stage II at idle and at the track. I'll be posting it once I figure out how to get the analog video (ya, i'm old school) to my computer

send it to me, i'd love to see that thing in action

xonelith · 08-03-2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MilzyZ34

send it to me, i'd love to see that thing in action

I will. Pretty neat since I have never actually heard the car from the outside (as I'm always inside

)

Kyle · 08-06-2005, 07:20 AM

If I install a stage one cam will there be a difference from the way it would idle if it was stock?

AaronGTR · 08-06-2005, 05:06 PM

Uh, yes... pretty much any time you install an aftermarket performance cam the idle is going to change to some degree. This is more true with pushrod engines also than with some of the DOHC engines with variable lift and timing. Anyway, how much the idle changes just depends on how much you change the specs from stock (ie. a mild cam or a race cam).

xxbackhillxx · 08-06-2005, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xonelith

I will. Pretty neat since I have never actually heard the car from the outside (as I'm always inside

)

Want to send it to me as well? I'd also like to see what it sounds like

xonelith · 08-06-2005, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xxbackhillxx

Want to send it to me as well? I'd also like to see what it sounds like

sure... you're always inside too LOL

MilzyZ34 · 08-07-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle

If I install a stage one cam will there be a difference from the way it would idle if it was stock?

yes the idle will change, but the stage 1 cam is actually more of a subtle change than i thought it would be. either that, or i'm just used to the stage 2 cams. with the stage 1, you can still tell it's cammed, but it's not as noticeable as the stage 2.

O1GAGT · 08-12-2005, 07:59 AM

any update on how the stage 1 performs and also maybe dyno info or runs at the track or a video clip or sound clip?

MilzyZ34 · 08-13-2005, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by O1GAGT

any update on how the stage 1 performs and also maybe dyno info or runs at the track or a video clip or sound clip?

Matt picked up the car last Saturday, i'll have to give him a call and get him to post about what he thinks about it.

Kyle · 08-27-2005, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MilzyZ34

Matt picked up the car last Saturday, i'll have to give him a call and get him to post about what he thinks about it.

Hows it runing?

MilzyZ34 · 08-28-2005, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle

Hows it runing?

sorry about that, i'll call him again today

Kyle · 08-28-2005, 07:43 AM

Thanks because I was thinking about ordering a stage one from you.

O1GAGT · 08-28-2005, 09:59 AM

Yes, I was wondering about the stage one still as well. I PM'ed Matt but never heard back from him.

oudidntkn0w · 08-28-2005, 10:04 AM

Hey guys. I got the car back and since then it has been running pretty good on the stock pcm. The idle right now (lack of good tune) is kinda crappy, it bounces between 550-900, but im pretty sure I could have that taken care of by bumping up the idle. Other than shifts being stock, once I get into the right gear I want, It takes off. With a tune I already know this thing is gonna be a power monster, heck its already 50 more horse than I had so it accelerates fasssst. If you want a cam but dont want it to be loud and crazy, stage 1 is the way to go. Its more subtle, but releases the power when you need it.

I autotapped it about a week ago, I run 89 gas, and ended up with 0 KR! Cleared all the stupid DTC's that came up, the only one that still pops up is for EGR, seems its missing or something

So everything looks good.

I raced a stage 2 3100 lumina ltz (cam, heads, pnp ULIMS) vs. my Stage 1 3400 monte ls (cam, pnp ulims) and the race was DEAD EVEN. So I guess that would mean milzy's heads give atleast 20 hp.

I also raced a 3800 non s/c grand prix and killed it by 2 car lengths, priceless face

Dont think about getting the cam, just DO IT

O1GAGT · 08-28-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by oudidntkn0w

Hey guys. I got the car back and since then it has been running pretty good on the stock pcm. The idle right now (lack of good tune) is kinda crappy, it bounces between 550-900, but im pretty sure I could have that taken care of by bumping up the idle. Other than shifts being stock, once I get into the right gear I want, It takes off. With a tune I already know this thing is gonna be a power monster, heck its already 50 more horse than I had so it accelerates fasssst. If you want a cam but dont want it to be loud and crazy, stage 1 is the way to go. Its more subtle, but releases the power when you need it.

I autotapped it about a week ago, I run 89 gas, and ended up with 0 KR! Cleared all the stupid DTC's that came up, the only one that still pops up is for EGR, seems its missing or something

So everything looks good.

I raced a stage 2 3100 lumina ltz (cam, heads, pnp ULIMS) vs. my Stage 1 3400 monte ls (cam, pnp ulims) and the race was DEAD EVEN. So I guess that would mean milzy's heads give atleast 20 hp.

I also raced a 3800 non s/c grand prix and killed it by 2 car lengths, priceless face

Dont think about getting the cam, just DO IT

Ok so what all do you have done to your car? I know you have the stage 1 cam ....but what else?

MilzyZ34 · 08-28-2005, 11:43 AM

just so you guys know, he's on a stock pcm b/c my HP Tuners will not edit 1996 cars, just 97+

MilzyZ34 · 08-28-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O1GAGT

Ok so what all do you have done to your car? I know you have the stage 1 cam ....but what else?

he has a 1996 Monte Carlo LS. i swapped out the 3100 for a 3400 and put in a stage 1 cam and our p&p'd intakes and a 180 t-stat. it has stock exhaust manifolds, stock tb, and when it left here, it had a stock intake box, not sure if this has changed. the car also has an exhaust, and i think that's the extent of his mods.

Kyle · 08-28-2005, 01:39 PM

You got a sound clip we can hear?

tejohnson · 08-28-2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MilzyZ34

just so you guys know, he's on a stock pcm b/c my HP Tuners will not edit 1996 cars, just 97+

Have him buy Powrtuner...

MilzyZ34 · 08-28-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tejohnson

Have him buy Powrtuner...

i think we're going to put a 97 pcm in it and tune with HPT.

08-06-2005, 05:06 PM	#684
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Uh, yes... pretty much any time you install an aftermarket performance cam the idle is going to change to some degree. This is more true with pushrod engines also than with some of the DOHC engines with variable lift and timing. Anyway, how much the idle changes just depends on how much you change the specs from stock (ie. a mild cam or a race cam). __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

08-28-2005, 10:04 AM	#694
oudidntkn0w Cammed 3400 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Redford, MI Age: 37 Posts: 11 Vehicle: '96 Monte LS	Hey guys. I got the car back and since then it has been running pretty good on the stock pcm. The idle right now (lack of good tune) is kinda crappy, it bounces between 550-900, but im pretty sure I could have that taken care of by bumping up the idle. Other than shifts being stock, once I get into the right gear I want, It takes off. With a tune I already know this thing is gonna be a power monster, heck its already 50 more horse than I had so it accelerates fasssst. If you want a cam but dont want it to be loud and crazy, stage 1 is the way to go. Its more subtle, but releases the power when you need it. I autotapped it about a week ago, I run 89 gas, and ended up with 0 KR! Cleared all the stupid DTC's that came up, the only one that still pops up is for EGR, seems its missing or something So everything looks good. I raced a stage 2 3100 lumina ltz (cam, heads, pnp ULIMS) vs. my Stage 1 3400 monte ls (cam, pnp ulims) and the race was DEAD EVEN. So I guess that would mean milzy's heads give atleast 20 hp. I also raced a 3800 non s/c grand prix and killed it by 2 car lengths, priceless face Dont think about getting the cam, just DO IT __________________ Designer and Webmaster of MilzyMotorsports.com 96 Monte LS, 3400 Swap, MMS Stage 1 Cam Last edited by oudidntkn0w; 08-28-2005 at 10:27 AM.

08-28-2005, 11:43 AM	#696
MilzyZ34 Fastest FWD GA AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dayton, OH Age: 41 Posts: 964 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT	just so you guys know, he's on a stock pcm b/c my HP Tuners will not edit 1996 cars, just 97+ __________________ 1999 Z34 - Was a Stage 3 3800 Supercharged, but not fast enough so I have some new plans for her. 1999 Grand Am GT Race Car - 12.1 sec ET, STOCK motor, 10 psi http://www.milzymotorsports.com

08-06-2005, 07:20 AM	#683
Kyle GAGT - Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 35 Posts: 337 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	If I install a stage one cam will there be a difference from the way it would idle if it was stock?

08-12-2005, 07:59 AM	#688
O1GAGT GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Phil Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Age: 37 Posts: 1,107 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Coupe	any update on how the stage 1 performs and also maybe dyno info or runs at the track or a video clip or sound clip?

08-28-2005, 07:43 AM	#692
Kyle GAGT - Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 35 Posts: 337 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	Thanks because I was thinking about ordering a stage one from you.

08-28-2005, 09:59 AM	#693
O1GAGT GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Phil Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Age: 37 Posts: 1,107 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Coupe	Yes, I was wondering about the stage one still as well. I PM'ed Matt but never heard back from him.

08-28-2005, 01:39 PM	#698
Kyle GAGT - Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 35 Posts: 337 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	You got a sound clip we can hear?