3x00 cams - Page 38

AaronGTR · 10-07-2005, 07:01 AM

Nice! You can see your car and you can see the time at the end (even though it's short). Thats all that you need.

Ronin · 10-08-2005, 03:46 AM

worx on the 2001 alero 3400, too ?

. now that i read the whole post, im a lil late for guinea pig *laughs*
did i read right, the stage 2 was +24hp on the wheels? im curious how much stage 1 will gain..

99blackSE · 10-08-2005, 07:11 AM

Nice run Xonelith!

MilzyZ34 · 10-08-2005, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin

worx on the 2001 alero 3400, too ?

. now that i read the whole post, im a lil late for guinea pig *laughs*
did i read right, the stage 2 was +24hp on the wheels? im curious how much stage 1 will gain..

it will work perfectly on a 3400 alero

PM me if you have questions.

xonelith · 10-08-2005, 09:05 AM

Thanks everyone.

Quality is pretty ****ty, cuz I don't know what i'm doing. First time messing with reducing the size of vids so I can post...LOL. Another reason for the short length. The one on my comp is 22 MB.

Going to the track today (14*C!!!). Taking the camera too. I've removed all TM (as you can tell from that vid, it wasn't). I'll post a new vid, maybe get a longer vid. Hopefully get a good vid of my buddy with a turbo GTP (T60!!).

MilzyZ34 · 10-08-2005, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xonelith

Thanks everyone.

Quality is pretty ****ty, cuz I don't know what i'm doing. First time messing with reducing the size of vids so I can post...LOL. Another reason for the short length. The one on my comp is 22 MB.

Going to the track today (14*C!!!). Taking the camera too. I've removed all TM (as you can tell from that vid, it wasn't). I'll post a new vid, maybe get a longer vid. Hopefully get a good vid of my buddy with a turbo GTP (T60!!).

Good luck today Tim!

Schweppe23 · 10-08-2005, 08:01 PM

So how'd you do?

izayn · 10-08-2005, 08:01 PM

Tim

Un your video it sounded like you never made it out of 2nd gear when you crossed the line

Am I correct

If I am or not correct do you remeber your shift RPM's

Thanks

MilzyZ34 · 10-09-2005, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by izayn

Tim

Un your video it sounded like you never made it out of 2nd gear when you crossed the line

Am I correct

If I am or not correct do you remeber your shift RPM's

Thanks

i think he shifts at 6800

xonelith · 10-10-2005, 05:10 PM

Yes I shift a 6800.

My results today: <== edit: not today, it was actually Saturday

13.991 @ 99.13!!!

I posted the link to the time slip somewhere on this site

I will post the vid, even though you can't read the times

But you can hear how crappy my second gear is now all of a sudden. Not sure what the problem is, but could be tuning or transmission related.

Rich · 10-10-2005, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xonelith

Yes I shift a 6800.

My results today:

13.991 @ 99.13!!!

I posted the link to the time slip somewhere on this site

I will post the vid, even though you can't read the times

But you can hear how crappy my second gear is now all of a sudden. Not sure what the problem is, but could be tuning or transmission related.

i dont know where else you posted so ill post here. HOLY CRAP!. congrats man! thats very sweet. cant wait to see whats next for you.

xonelith · 10-10-2005, 05:14 PM

Thanks!

LOL... I just posted it in the 1/4 mile times section

AaronGTR · 10-10-2005, 05:18 PM

I wouldn't expect the motor to last long shifting that high with stock internals. With the piston stroke and rod ratio on a stock motor, that will cause extremely high piston speeds and side loads at that rpm. That's 1000rpm over the stock redline. I only run mine to 6300 and I'm thinking of lowering it to 6100 just because the power starts dropping off after that.

For near 7k rpm it would be better if you could decrease the stroke. At least you'd be better off with a knife edged and balanced crank, better bearings and rod bolts, and forged rods and pistons.

xonelith · 10-10-2005, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

I wouldn't expect the motor to last long shifting that high with stock internals. With the piston stroke and rod ratio on a stock motor, that will cause extremely high piston speeds and side loads at that rpm. That's 1000rpm over the stock redline. I only run mine to 6300 and I'm thinking of lowering it to 6100 just because the power starts dropping off after that.

For near 7k rpm it would be better if you could decrease the stroke. At least you'd be better off with a knife edged and balanced crank, better bearings and rod bolts, and forged rods and pistons.

I'll be building up the bottom end in a year or so. Maybe I'll increase the compression ratio (maybe, still undecided on this one... ).

Currently, my power doesn't drop off after 6200 rpm. It continues to stay fairly steady (not increased). For the track, I run it that high, so my next gear is in the powerband (around 4200 rpm).

MilzyZ34 · 10-11-2005, 07:25 AM

what did i tell you Tim, colder weather, and now you're in the 13's. you have what, another month of drag racing left this season? wonder if you'll improve your best again before then. anyways congrats on your awesome times, and keep up the good work. that's one quick GA.

Sprucegagt · 10-11-2005, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

I wouldn't expect the motor to last long shifting that high with stock internals. With the piston stroke and rod ratio on a stock motor, that will cause extremely high piston speeds and side loads at that rpm. That's 1000rpm over the stock redline. I only run mine to 6300 and I'm thinking of lowering it to 6100 just because the power starts dropping off after that.

For near 7k rpm it would be better if you could decrease the stroke. At least you'd be better off with a knife edged and balanced crank, better bearings and rod bolts, and forged rods and pistons.

The 3400 will have no problem keeping together all the way up to 7k. Just have to be sure to keep the crank well oiled (i.e. over 40 PSI oil pressure). Stock redline in the GA is based on the transmission, NOT the engine. Maximum rated input speed for the trans is 6200 rpm. Exactly where redline is on the tach. Gotta love GM for this one. This is also a reason why a manual would be so much better, reliable higher rpm shift points.

Xonelith, I don't know how your trans has kept together with those high shift rpms. But since you are now starting to have problems with it, it doesn't look to be to long.

xonelith · 10-11-2005, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sprucegagt

Xonelith, I don't know how your trans has kept together with those high shift rpms. But since you are now starting to have problems with it, it doesn't look to be to long.

I've been expecting tranny problems since I got HPTuners and removed all TM

Also keep in mind this is my daily driver and I have put around 35000 km's on the car since the install (5 or 6 track days included).

However, I'm not sure my problem is transmission related. 1st and 3rd are fine and 2nd seems ok until it gets warm (even though tranny temps pretty much stay below 190*F...reason i'm confused). The car seems to surge 2 times sometimes 3 through the gear at WOT.

I'll be posting the vid later tonight.

Thanks!!

xxbackhillxx · 10-11-2005, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xonelith

However, I'm not sure my problem is transmission related. 1st and 3rd are fine and 2nd seems ok until it gets warm (even though tranny temps pretty much stay below 190*F...reason i'm confused). The car seems to surge 2 times sometimes 3 through the gear at WOT.

I'll be posting the vid later tonight.

Thanks!!

My tranny does the same.

tejohnson · 10-11-2005, 04:12 PM

Sounds like the TCC to me.

Sprucegagt · 10-11-2005, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tejohnson

Sounds like the TCC to me.

I have been wondering that. I have the same problem after a few days from a computer reset.

Xonelith reset your PCM and see if the problem goes away? If it does then it is not mechanical, just the PCM.

10-07-2005, 07:01 AM	#741
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Nice! You can see your car and you can see the time at the end (even though it's short). Thats all that you need. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

10-08-2005, 03:46 AM	#742
Ronin Autobahnraser AKA: Ron - 255km/h Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 64 Vehicle: 2002 Alero 3.4	2001 olds alero worx on the 2001 alero 3400, too ? . now that i read the whole post, im a lil late for guinea pig laughs did i read right, the stage 2 was +24hp on the wheels? im curious how much stage 1 will gain.. __________________ ningen banji - saiou ga uma. Last edited by Ronin; 10-08-2005 at 05:01 AM.

10-08-2005, 07:11 AM	#743
99blackSE SLP'ed AKA: Brad Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beausejour, Manitoba, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 287 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Coupe	Nice run Xonelith! __________________ 1999 GA SE - written off by hit and run - '04-'08 1998 Civic Si - just in time for rising gas prices

10-08-2005, 09:05 AM	#745
xonelith All Motor AKA: Tim Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Whitby, Ontario Age: 48 Posts: 400 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT1 Coup	Thanks everyone. Quality is pretty ***ty, cuz I don't know what i'm doing. First time messing with reducing the size of vids so I can post...LOL. Another reason for the short length. The one on my comp is 22 MB. Going to the track today (14C!!!). Taking the camera too. I've removed all TM (as you can tell from that vid, it wasn't). I'll post a new vid, maybe get a longer vid. Hopefully get a good vid of my buddy with a turbo GTP (T60!!). __________________ All Motor 2001 GA GT1 Best 1/8 - 9.104 @ 79.36 MPH Best 1/4 - 13.991 @ 99.13 MPH

10-08-2005, 08:01 PM	#747
Schweppe23 GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 1,549 Vehicle: Pontiac	So how'd you do? __________________ First 99+ GAGT to run 14s First E/M (only) GA to run 13s First turbo'D GAGT to run 12s 11's coming soon

10-08-2005, 08:01 PM	#748
izayn Fast like the Car AKA: Randy Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Jackson, TN and Chicago IL Age: 46 Posts: 229 Vehicle: 2001 Grand AM GT 4dr	Tim Un your video it sounded like you never made it out of 2nd gear when you crossed the line Am I correct If I am or not correct do you remeber your shift RPM's Thanks

10-10-2005, 05:10 PM	#750
xonelith All Motor AKA: Tim Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Whitby, Ontario Age: 48 Posts: 400 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT1 Coup	Yes I shift a 6800. My results today: <== edit: not today, it was actually Saturday 13.991 @ 99.13!!! I posted the link to the time slip somewhere on this site I will post the vid, even though you can't read the times But you can hear how crappy my second gear is now all of a sudden. Not sure what the problem is, but could be tuning or transmission related. __________________ All Motor 2001 GA GT1 Best 1/8 - 9.104 @ 79.36 MPH Best 1/4 - 13.991 @ 99.13 MPH Last edited by xonelith; 10-10-2005 at 05:16 PM.

10-10-2005, 05:14 PM	#752
xonelith All Motor AKA: Tim Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Whitby, Ontario Age: 48 Posts: 400 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT1 Coup	Thanks! LOL... I just posted it in the 1/4 mile times section __________________ All Motor 2001 GA GT1 Best 1/8 - 9.104 @ 79.36 MPH Best 1/4 - 13.991 @ 99.13 MPH

10-10-2005, 05:18 PM	#753
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	I wouldn't expect the motor to last long shifting that high with stock internals. With the piston stroke and rod ratio on a stock motor, that will cause extremely high piston speeds and side loads at that rpm. That's 1000rpm over the stock redline. I only run mine to 6300 and I'm thinking of lowering it to 6100 just because the power starts dropping off after that. For near 7k rpm it would be better if you could decrease the stroke. At least you'd be better off with a knife edged and balanced crank, better bearings and rod bolts, and forged rods and pistons. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

10-11-2005, 07:25 AM	#755
MilzyZ34 Fastest FWD GA AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dayton, OH Age: 41 Posts: 964 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT	what did i tell you Tim, colder weather, and now you're in the 13's. you have what, another month of drag racing left this season? wonder if you'll improve your best again before then. anyways congrats on your awesome times, and keep up the good work. that's one quick GA. __________________ 1999 Z34 - Was a Stage 3 3800 Supercharged, but not fast enough so I have some new plans for her. 1999 Grand Am GT Race Car - 12.1 sec ET, STOCK motor, 10 psi http://www.milzymotorsports.com

10-11-2005, 04:12 PM	#759
tejohnson Just a hobby... AKA: Todd Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Parkersburg, WV && Philadelphia, PA Age: 45 Posts: 1,717 Vehicle: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500	Sounds like the TCC to me. __________________ Regards, Todd E. Johnson SpyhunteR's #1 fan. 99 Grand Am (13.4@108) - Recycled

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