Tranny Fortification... info inside - Page 6

Watch4MyBu · 12-18-2002, 07:11 PM

I really hope raybestos comes through with those parts

DavidScott77 · 12-24-2002, 02:17 PM

Sent my Email!!!

XtreemSix · 12-28-2002, 10:38 PM

no kidding!

SPAZ · 12-30-2002, 01:56 PM

I sent them a very cool email.........

jaketuff · 12-30-2002, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SPAZ
I sent them a very cool email.........

Good news-Good news!!!

Hope to see this all happen... that shop in Harriman (Protech...) uses there parts for all their performance trannies... they said that to do ours would involve custom fabricating the clutch plates, bands, valve bod.

Pat

01-06-2003, 10:48 AM

Ok so I went to that bulkpart.com website and didn't see any performance transmission parts on it or anything that would help besides the transmission coolers...I have a tranny cooler and a transinterceptor is there anything else I can do that would at least help my tranny stand up to a 75 shot of nitrous? I really cannot afford any level 10 or anything over $1k, am I pretty much out of luck?

Craig99SE2 · 01-06-2003, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ericm555sgirl
Ok so I went to that bulkpart.com website and didn't see any performance transmission parts on it or anything that would help besides the transmission coolers...I have a tranny cooler and a transinterceptor is there anything else I can do that would at least help my tranny stand up to a 75 shot of nitrous? I really cannot afford any level 10 or anything over $1k, am I pretty much out of luck?

For a 75 shot, you should be fine with the cooler and higher line pressure (Interceptor). I'd recommend a fluid change approx. every 20K just to be safe. Also, if anyone installs a remote cooler, it is worthwhile to spend a few extra bux and get the remote filter as well. Allows you to check fluid and amount of pollution w/o pulling the pan. Good indicator of when to get a fluid change.

01-06-2003, 11:59 AM

What is a remote cooler and where can I get one?

Craig99SE2 · 01-06-2003, 12:02 PM

You said you already have a remote tranny cooler. I assume you mean the filter ... see here:

http://store.summitracing.com/produc...earchtype=ecat

voodooalero · 01-18-2003, 09:53 PM

I fired of an email showing my support.

I used to live about a mile away from the Raybestos facility in Crawfordsville, I'm about 2.5 hours away from there now. Has anyone contacted and gotten a response from Gordon Stoney?

tyger25 · 01-19-2003, 01:19 PM

I keep getting my e-mails back. I'll try on Monday.

Irate · 01-19-2003, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tyger25
I keep getting my e-mails back. I'll try on Monday.

Yeah, same here pat... you wanna double-check that e-mail addy?

jaketuff · 01-20-2003, 03:19 PM

His mailbox must be full guys... keep firing them off though! If it is full that is a good sign... he must be getting a lot of mail...

As the Website states ... chorbach@raybestosclutch.com

JOUT

jaketuff · 01-20-2003, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by voodooalero
I fired of an email showing my support.

I used to live about a mile away from the Raybestos facility in Crawfordsville, I'm about 2.5 hours away from there now. Has anyone contacted and gotten a response from Gordon Stoney?

I got one email and sent one back with further discussion, but he has been in the field doing R&D and is too busy to handle what must be interesting and inviting conversation for him... I would continue hitting Chris' Account with inquiries and a show of demand. Chris has us on his radar screen and is accounting for the amount of interest.

Pat

tyger25 · 01-21-2003, 05:25 AM

I finally got an e-mail through today. Here is the reply:

"Tyger,

Thanks for the support. I will be working with a team this spring to
help develop friction plates for the HP 4T45E. I will let everyone know
about them as soon as we have found and resolved any weak areas.
Remember, the best friction plate won't survive in a performance
transmission that doesn't have enough line pressure or the support of
the hard parts surrounding it. But, once the transmission has been
validated to handle stupid amounts of power, you will be able to build
the engine until your pockets run empty.

Thank You,

Chris Horbach
Product Application Engineer
Raybestos Powertrain
964 E Market St.
Crawfordsville, IN 47933
800-729-7763 x113
765-364-4577
chorbach@raybestosclutch.com"

Very Promising!!!!!

Irate · 01-21-2003, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tyger25
Remember, the best friction plate won't survive in a performance
transmission that doesn't have enough line pressure or the support of
the hard parts surrounding it. But, once the transmission has been
validated to handle stupid amounts of power, you will be able to build
the engine until your pockets run empty.

Mmmm... this guy is definately my new friend... and it sounds like he's not going to stop at just the clutch packs...

Watch4MyBu · 01-21-2003, 06:26 AM

Now I have something to look forward to. I was not going to boost until the tranny was done first, now I can start saving for the boost

aleroboy · 01-25-2003, 03:24 AM

I'm in desprate need of that custom tune

my car doesnt really know what to do with the 4.2L I6 injectors or all my other mods.

jaketuff · 01-26-2003, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronGTR
If they come through with these parts I'll be first in line. When DHP first changed my tranny program the shifts were fast and firm. Now they seem to be slowing down and have gotten a lot softer. I'm pretty sure my clutch packs are wearing out. The mechanical parts are fine, but the friction materials in the stock tranny just weren't meant to take abuse from a blower and other mods and live.

You may need to reset the PCM... depends on how far DHP got with the software. Try that though and let us know what happens... the car will always try to return to the Granny Shifts, unless serious software manipulation is done. So it makes sense that the car is now shifting softer if DHP didn't dig to deeply.

.02
JOUT

Blackrider · 02-07-2003, 11:26 AM

This is the reply i got back from Chris, Is this a generic reply?

Jordie,
"Thank you for your inquiry. We are trying to push the new friction materials through to production. Once this happens, everything will fall into place with the clutch plates. We are working with Stoney Automotive Engineering and GM Motorsports to research the clutch pack requirements for higher power Grand Ams, Sunfires, Aleros, and Cavaliers.
We are also considering the availability of tranny upgrades and possibly an entire 4T65E HP transmission that can support 1000 HP. They include different final drive ratios up a 4.0:1, upgraded clutch packages, transbrakes, and so on. The pricing may be a little salty, but we can confidently say that the upgrades and/or complete tranny will be as near to bulletproof as you can get and the quality/cleanliness will be at a premium. What are the Grand Am/Alero/Cavaler/Sunfire owner’s thoughts of replacing the 4T45E with a 4T65E? We also discussed a conversion package that would allow the 4T45E guys to upgrade to a 4T65E.
Could you discuss some of this with the Grand Am/Alero/Sunfire/Cavalier clubs and internet groups? I need some feedback on what the market would accept and what there is a demand for.
Thanks Again,"

12-24-2002, 02:17 PM	#102
DavidScott77 Destroy the weak Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 216 Vehicle: Lately a money pit	Sent my Email!!! __________________ I sense the presence of Ackbar is close!

12-28-2002, 10:38 PM	#103
XtreemSix "The Rental Car" Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: mid-Illinois Age: 40 Posts: 98 Vehicle: '99 Grand Am GT Coupe	no kidding! __________________ 15.18 @ 89.19 mph (old old time) - 2.16 60' - 9.73 1/8th (current) Flowmaster 80 cat-back (2.5" piping), IAT override, MAF: descreened and polished, civic CAI w/ 7" K&N cone filter, custom "ram air", custom breather filter mod, Mobil 1 synth., and weight reduction...in dire need of a tune 10X,XXX miles and growing

12-30-2002, 01:56 PM	#104
SPAZ 13.72 @ 102.70 mph Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CT. Age: 50 Posts: 632 Vehicle: 99 GAGT1 4dr.	OK Pat I sent them a very cool email......... __________________ SPECIAL THANKS TO MY SPONSORS !!! customGA.com, americanperformanceofcolorado.com DoctorSpeed.com

01-06-2003, 12:02 PM	#109
Craig99SE2 Mr. Know It All AKA: Craig Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Commerce Twp., MI Age: 48 Posts: 1,349 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Coupe	You said you already have a remote tranny cooler. I assume you mean the filter ... see here: http://store.summitracing.com/produc...earchtype=ecat __________________ Project 13-Second NA GASE - 1999 Grand Am SE - RSM Heads,UIM,LIM,62mm TB,AFE Filter,RSM WAI,TOGs,DynoMax Hi-Flo Cat,SLP,DynoMax,ASE Chip,Mobil 1,Accel DIS,Taylor Wires,Denso Iridium,Hyper Ground,FFP Pulley,B&M SuperCooler,RedLine D4 ATF,Poly Drivetrain Mounts - Estimated 250HP ... Dyno Charts Soon!

01-20-2003, 03:19 PM	#113
jaketuff GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Westchester, NY Age: 43 Posts: 2,093 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT Coupe	His mailbox must be full guys... keep firing them off though! If it is full that is a good sign... he must be getting a lot of mail... As the Website states ... chorbach@raybestosclutch.com JOUT __________________ 2000 Pontiac Grand Am GT Coupe Magnacharger SC February 2003 N-body of the Month 14.34 @ 93.38MPH Eaton SC, No ported heads, No Juice! -RETIRED March 2010 w/165k- 2013 Mercedes ML350 !ACHTUNG! Es ist Shtock 2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe : CAI, Manifold Spacer 2004 Pontiac GTO : Mild Mods, and Tuned ... 13.1 @ 107.5 PB 1992 Mustang LX : TT, 351, IC, Alky, Gears - 400HP/500lbs-ft ... MONSTER 1991 Mustang GT : GT40 H/I, Bullitt Wheels, New Paint

12-18-2002, 07:11 PM	#101
Watch4MyBu Lost Malibu Owner Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 493 Vehicle: 1998 Chevy Malibu	I really hope raybestos comes through with those parts

01-06-2003, 10:48 AM	#106
ericm555sgirl Guest Posts: n/a	Ok so I went to that bulkpart.com website and didn't see any performance transmission parts on it or anything that would help besides the transmission coolers...I have a tranny cooler and a transinterceptor is there anything else I can do that would at least help my tranny stand up to a 75 shot of nitrous? I really cannot afford any level 10 or anything over $1k, am I pretty much out of luck?

01-06-2003, 11:59 AM	#108
ericm555sgirl Guest Posts: n/a	What is a remote cooler and where can I get one?

01-18-2003, 09:53 PM	#110
voodooalero "King of The Hill" Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Age: 46 Posts: 30 Vehicle: 1999 Alero GL3	I fired of an email showing my support. I used to live about a mile away from the Raybestos facility in Crawfordsville, I'm about 2.5 hours away from there now. Has anyone contacted and gotten a response from Gordon Stoney?

01-19-2003, 01:19 PM	#111
tyger25 I fix it, she breaks Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Little Rock Age: 41 Posts: 189 Vehicle: 1999 grand am	I keep getting my e-mails back. I'll try on Monday.

01-21-2003, 05:25 AM	#115
tyger25 I fix it, she breaks Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Little Rock Age: 41 Posts: 189 Vehicle: 1999 grand am	I finally got an e-mail through today. Here is the reply: "Tyger, Thanks for the support. I will be working with a team this spring to help develop friction plates for the HP 4T45E. I will let everyone know about them as soon as we have found and resolved any weak areas. Remember, the best friction plate won't survive in a performance transmission that doesn't have enough line pressure or the support of the hard parts surrounding it. But, once the transmission has been validated to handle stupid amounts of power, you will be able to build the engine until your pockets run empty. Thank You, Chris Horbach Product Application Engineer Raybestos Powertrain 964 E Market St. Crawfordsville, IN 47933 800-729-7763 x113 765-364-4577 chorbach@raybestosclutch.com" Very Promising!!!!!

01-21-2003, 06:26 AM	#117
Watch4MyBu Lost Malibu Owner Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 493 Vehicle: 1998 Chevy Malibu	Now I have something to look forward to. I was not going to boost until the tranny was done first, now I can start saving for the boost

01-25-2003, 03:24 AM	#118
aleroboy 340+ hp Club Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado springs Age: 39 Posts: 1,854 Vehicle: 2001 Alero GLS coupe	I'm in desprate need of that custom tune my car doesnt really know what to do with the 4.2L I6 injectors or all my other mods. __________________ really really slow right now.

02-07-2003, 11:26 AM	#120
Blackrider Ifeast Upon The Weak AKA: Jordie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Victoria B.C. Age: 36 Posts: 3,048 Vehicle: 06 GTP 6Speed	This is the reply i got back from Chris, Is this a generic reply? Jordie, "Thank you for your inquiry. We are trying to push the new friction materials through to production. Once this happens, everything will fall into place with the clutch plates. We are working with Stoney Automotive Engineering and GM Motorsports to research the clutch pack requirements for higher power Grand Ams, Sunfires, Aleros, and Cavaliers. We are also considering the availability of tranny upgrades and possibly an entire 4T65E HP transmission that can support 1000 HP. They include different final drive ratios up a 4.0:1, upgraded clutch packages, transbrakes, and so on. The pricing may be a little salty, but we can confidently say that the upgrades and/or complete tranny will be as near to bulletproof as you can get and the quality/cleanliness will be at a premium. What are the Grand Am/Alero/Cavaler/Sunfire owner’s thoughts of replacing the 4T45E with a 4T65E? We also discussed a conversion package that would allow the 4T45E guys to upgrade to a 4T65E. Could you discuss some of this with the Grand Am/Alero/Sunfire/Cavalier clubs and internet groups? I need some feedback on what the market would accept and what there is a demand for. Thanks Again," __________________ 60DegreeGTP

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