Official Eagles vs Pats Super Bowl XXXIX thread

[Sprucegagt]

Originally Posted by TJ95GAGT

As long as the eagles are running the west coast offense they wont have a RB that pounds the ball like Dillon. It doesnt go with that offense, the short passes and screens act as thier running game. The clock management is the coaches fault not the QB's, they call the plays. Hes not the offensive coordinator. But I think McNabb should have over ruled the coaches and called 2 or 3 plays per huddle, it really isnt hard. But there is no question that the INT's are what lost the game, he freakin stared at the reciever the whole route the one pass.

In 2 minute drill situations it is the QB's responsibility to get the team to the line quickly with no huddle. QB calls the plays until the clock is stopped. McNabb clearly did not do this.

[99GApunk]

well the pats played a lot better vs both the colts and steelers as well. had brady and dillon been on in the first half it could have been a blowout

Rodney Harrison broke his arm last year and played with it. Yesterday was Wilson. I haven't heard reports, but seeing it happened I guessed it was a broken humorous (arm bone that gos from elbow to shoulder). Forgot who he was trying to tackle, but the Eagle guys knee hit directly on the middle section of that bone.

i beleive wilson also hurt himself last year, i knew harrison did... he almost went out this year too, but was just shaken up
dillon was playing most of the second half with a bad back/side/ribs, you could see him in pain everytime they showed a close up.

one good point for both teams was tackling, both teams tackled very well for the most part. which is good to see

[TJ95GAGT]

Hes gotta be given the plays to run, I'm sure if he was calling the plays he woud NOT have handed the ball off. Its not hard, they call 3 or 4 plays in the huddle and run them until the clock is stopped. Ried took full blame for it, probably a PR stunt for McNabb but if it was his fault he would have owned up to it I'm sure. But there still is no excuse for the INT's which can only be blamed on the QB.

[99GApunk]

Originally Posted by pontga00

They ARE gimmes...your playing well argument is no good.

Here are Dallas' 6 wins...
Cleveland - barely (19-12)
Washington - barely (21-18)
Detroit
Chicago
Seattle - barely (43-39) and if I recall, Hasselbeck lost the game for Seattle here.
Washington - again barely (13-10)

Washington's wins...
Tampa Bay
Chicago barely (13-10)
Detroit
Giants
49ers
Minnesota barely the last game of the season

Giants wins...
Washington
Cleveland
Green Bay
Dallas
Minnesota
Dallas

So as you can see, the teams that these "Eagles divisional rivals" played and won against were not exactly powerhouses, thus reinforcing my "Gimme's" point, also re-reinforcing that the Eagles anywhere else but in their division aren't 13-3 and best in the NFC.

my point is that no game is a gimme. the patriots lost to the dolphins.... THE DOLPHINS. a team has to play well each week to win, regardless of the opponent and the eagles did that. and you forget that they also got to the superbowl, so they proved they can beat good teams.. not afc teams, but good nfc teams

[eric99gt]

pontga still going on about how the eagles weren't a good team and faced no good competition. Jesus christ. The game was close all the way through. NE steamrolled pitt and indy. I'm sure the eagles would have stood no chance in the AFC.

[pontga00]

Originally Posted by eric99gt

I'm sure the eagles would have stood no chance in the AFC.

Thank you.

I do have to give Philly credit though, they kept it close. A lot closer than I would've thought. With Eugene Wilson in the game, it a different story though.

[Sprucegagt]

Originally Posted by TJ95GAGT

Hes gotta be given the plays to run, I'm sure if he was calling the plays he woud NOT have handed the ball off. Its not hard, they call 3 or 4 plays in the huddle and run them until the clock is stopped. Ried took full blame for it, probably a PR stunt for McNabb but if it was his fault he would have owned up to it I'm sure. But there still is no excuse for the INT's which can only be blamed on the QB.

Why would McNabb own up to it after his coach already took full blame for it? Still McNabb has been in the game long enough to know that you don't huddle up with the clock running with less than a minute to play. Regardless of whether he got a play from the sidelines or not he should of took control and got something going immediately. This is what leaders do, so why didn't McNabb?

[eric99gt]

because Mcnabb had a bad game. That's it. He was nervous and didn't get the help he needed at times. He'll be there again and prove he's a great QB. Just gotta overcome the big game jitters at times.

[Sprucegagt]

Originally Posted by eric99gt

because Mcnabb had a bad game. That's it. He was nervous and didn't get the help he needed at times. He'll be there again and prove he's a great QB. Just gotta overcome the big game jitters at times.

I agree he did have a bad game. But how many big games does it take for him to get over the jitters. This is number 4 lost.

[99GApunk]

Originally Posted by Sprucegagt

I agree he did have a bad game. But how many big games does it take for him to get over the jitters. This is number 4 lost.

him and manning must hang out too much

[Warthog]

at the people saying philly had it if it weren't for the turnovers. guess what? defense causes turnovers...what you should be really saying is 'eagles woulda won if they weren't playing a team that was so good'

[eric99gt]

come on now...do you think the defense caused all those turnovers. I think mcnabb may have gave some away.

[Warthog]

he gave them away because the defense pressured him and was properly in position...if the defense wasn't doing its job mcnabb wouldn't have thrown all of the interceptions...it's as simple as that.

[chesee48]

Originally Posted by eric99gt

because Mcnabb had a bad game. That's it. He was nervous and didn't get the help he needed at times. He'll be there again and prove he's a great QB. .

Agreed, Mcnabb was the only flaw that game...well That and Freddy's mouth. TO showed a lot out there.....

Brady= The man...4 years, 3 Rings...Need i say more?

[JohnnyB4439]

Originally Posted by chesee48

Agreed, Mcnabb was the only flaw that game...well That and Freddy's mouth. TO showed a lot out there.....

Brady= The man...4 years, 3 Rings...Need i say more?

simply unbelievable....

[iceman]

http://www.nbc10.com/sports/4176702/detail.html

[eric99gt]

hmmm...that would explain a lot.

[TJ95GAGT]

^Interesting, but no excuses, j/k. I noticed he didnt smile or joke much and thats something he's known for, no matter the situation. They still lost to a better team and kept the game interesting kinda. Did alot better then most expected.

[99GApunk]

maybe he was sick when he looked up at the scoreboard??

but honestly, maybe he had a mild concussion from hitting the ground?, or just wooziness from the pain from the jaw shot, he did get nailed on his jaw and yeah he didnt look good all game, but who knows

[iceman]

Originally Posted by TJ95GAGT

^Interesting, but no excuses, j/k. I noticed he didnt smile or joke much and thats something he's known for, no matter the situation. They still lost to a better team and kept the game interesting kinda. Did alot better then most expected.

yeah I agree. no excuses needed, they def lost to the better team, just posted that, maybe it explains the retarded 2 minute offense they showed