Will buy a Grand Prix this week... turbo or GTP?? - Page 5

H.O. Driver · 02-04-2005, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

is that why the car stinks under the hood... my wife thought it was the tires!!

Its kind of hard to describe what it smells like, but you will know when when you smell it and you will never forget it either

Burning tires smell much better than that

FORTEEN3GT · 02-04-2005, 11:06 AM

Order Number: 5433
Placed : 02/04/2005 12:04:29 CDT

Ship To: Bill To:
Mike Stewart Mike Stewart
mike.stewart@verizon.com 972-264-4654

Code Name Quantity Price/Ea. Total
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PCM-xxxxx-xxxx INTENSE™ Powertrain Control Module 1 $99.99 $99.99
PCM_level: Standard_PCM
Core: 1998-2002_Core_PAID100 $100.00 $100.00
VIN: 1G2WR52101F205906
Understand_Disclaimer: Michael Stewart 02/04/2004
Idle_speed: Stock
Timing_table: Plus_3
Disable_rearO2 $10.00 $10.00
Shift_settings: 6000_6200
Cooling_fan_settings: 180_degree
PCM_yrmkmdl: PCM-GTP-2001

GBx-xxx Gatorback Supercharger Belts 1 $21.99 $21.99
Application: GB6-660

SCA-0x9 SLP Cold-Air Induction Package 1 $199.99 $199.99
Application: SCA-039

TST-1x0 INTENSE™ High Performance Thermostats 1 $9.99 $9.99
Thermostat: TST-180

ASP-x0x Autolite® Copper Core Spark Plugs 6 $1.99 $11.94
SparkPlug-Type: ASP-605

IMH-090 INTENSE™ Modular Pulley System 1 $129.99 $129.99
Pulley_Size: IMP-340

Shipping: UPS Ground: $24.59
Sales Tax: $0.00
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total: $608.48

GAGTSCTGuy · 02-04-2005, 11:08 AM

hehe, that didn't take long

FORTEEN3GT · 02-04-2005, 11:09 AM

now the GAGT is playing catch up!!! darn!

Lash · 02-04-2005, 02:35 PM

bout time you wised up.

GTPprix · 02-04-2005, 03:37 PM

Done

Just heed the warning

So other than the power how do you like the car?

FORTEEN3GT · 02-04-2005, 03:38 PM

how is Kubiache's GTP coming along?

Car is nice...... it has a 1000X's more aminities than the gagt! it hugs the road and feels more refined!

better suspension!
heated seats!
HUD!
Power everything!
did i mention factory blower?

i layed down 2 thick black lines with the el cheapo tires! nothing but white smokin! no way the gagt can put it down like that xcept nitrous!!!!!!

GTPprix · 02-04-2005, 03:38 PM

He's still slow, but I've got a bitchin set of brakes here for him

FORTEEN3GT · 02-04-2005, 03:43 PM

i would love an invite to an HPP Texas Street Shootout in Ennis!!

the GTP and GAGT will both be mildly modded.... I'll run em both!

GTP will be a low 14 car and GAGT will be a high 14.

*edit: but i will only put wear and tear if i can be in the mag!

FORTEEN3GT · 02-04-2005, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTPprix

He's still slow, but I've got a bitchin set of brakes here for him

as long as my wife's is faster..... he can stop better all he wants!

next step for me.......FIRECHICKEN!!! or GTO (i hope to have more pontiacs in the garage than you!

but i am waiting for that 100 dollar insurance you guys speak so highly of! heck i am paying 4k per year for these 2!

GTPprix · 02-04-2005, 03:47 PM

LOL I think hes got some tricks up his sleeve

FORTEEN3GT · 02-04-2005, 03:49 PM

last night i tinted the sides 35 and back 15 percent....... 20 wouldnt pass inspection here in texas thanks to the factory glass being lightly shaded.
under 20 percent wont pass!

looks alot better with tint!

FORTEEN3GT · 02-04-2005, 03:53 PM

any issues on these things going catless? i added the "Disable_rearO2 $10.00" to the PCM order............

does this help performance? I was assuming i could do 3 inch piping to the cat back from the downpipe? no resonator, no cat, and SLP loudmouth....... what will it sound like? yeah or nah?

AaronGTR · 02-04-2005, 04:04 PM

Don't pollute... keep the cat. You can get plenty of performance by adding a larger high flow cat to the system and still be environmentally friendly. That and most V6's sound like crap with no cat... I know mine did. Too raspy.

Lash · 02-04-2005, 04:40 PM

Most of the GTP guys I know don't run cats.

H.O. Driver · 02-04-2005, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Don't pollute... keep the cat. You can get plenty of performance by adding a larger high flow cat to the system and still be environmentally friendly. That and most V6's sound like crap with no cat... I know mine did. Too raspy.

Yea it did, but GPs have 2 mufflers, they sound good without a cat. Emissions, hahaha, a GP in California passed the sniffer test with TOGs, XP Cam, high flow cat, custom 3" exhuast and DHP, there was no special tuning done to pass inspections either. If it can pass with a nice sized cam in there, these motors don't spew out that much. So obviously it doesn't pollute that bad and the car ran low 12s street driven to boot. Just a thought

I wish Pat would post the vids of his catless GMPP exhuast, it sounds good but its not that loud.

EDIT: Found it, for your listening/veiwing pleasures.
http://home.comcast.net/~vinaashak/mycarclips.wmv

DuBob · 02-04-2005, 10:31 PM

Congrats on the GTP purchase! I'm still tuning mine in after my P&P heads and S1x cam install. I am maxing my injectors on the 3.4 pulley. With those fueling problems, I'm still running 13.5 @102. Once I fix the fuel, I should be running at 13.3 with the 3.4 pulley.....and I can drop to a 3.2 or 3.0 and hopefully hit 12.9's.

You may have seen my car on the PFYC website....they used my picture for their SD hood page. Here's a recent picture of mine. If you have any questions about appearance mods, let me know......me and most other clubgp owners think I got things nailed.

More pictures here.

I really like dark blue GPs.....they are pretty rare. Put a set of chrome 17's or 18's on there, and that would kick ass.

kubiache · 02-05-2005, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

as long as my wife's is faster..... he can stop better all he wants!

HA! Not a chance.

I'll be way low 13s or hopefully 12s in a month.

Yeah, the SC oil...smells like death. Don't be in a closed garage when you change your SC coupler. The smell doesn't go away.

The valve cover gaskets always leak. Don't worry about it. Just get new ones when you get new valve springs.

Fish · 02-05-2005, 08:17 AM

Nice little mod list you have there.

Hope you really enjoy the car. The S/C oil does smell like shiat. If you wait to change it, it only gets worse.

Ported manifolds are still a great gain with the car. So I really suggest that if you dont wanna fork out the money for TOGS or SLPs. I actually did some research. Your better off getting the nickle togs. They are cheaper than SLPs now.

Lash · 02-05-2005, 09:59 AM

Nice car DuBob!

My friend is all excited about his. He can run a 3.0 pulley because of the adition of water injection (along with a grocery list of other mods). Car pulls HARD. Now he really has to get some trany mods. Just got it rebuilt about 4-5 months ago under warranty. The 3.0 pulley is already tearing it up pretty bad. Time to upgrade

02-04-2005, 11:06 AM	#82
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	Order Number: 5433 Placed : 02/04/2005 12:04:29 CDT Ship To: Bill To: Mike Stewart Mike Stewart mike.stewart@verizon.com 972-264-4654 Code Name Quantity Price/Ea. Total ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PCM-xxxxx-xxxx INTENSE™ Powertrain Control Module 1 $99.99 $99.99 PCM_level: Standard_PCM Core: 1998-2002_Core_PAID100 $100.00 $100.00 VIN: 1G2WR52101F205906 Understand_Disclaimer: Michael Stewart 02/04/2004 Idle_speed: Stock Timing_table: Plus_3 Disable_rearO2 $10.00 $10.00 Shift_settings: 6000_6200 Cooling_fan_settings: 180_degree PCM_yrmkmdl: PCM-GTP-2001 GBx-xxx Gatorback Supercharger Belts 1 $21.99 $21.99 Application: GB6-660 SCA-0x9 SLP Cold-Air Induction Package 1 $199.99 $199.99 Application: SCA-039 TST-1x0 INTENSE™ High Performance Thermostats 1 $9.99 $9.99 Thermostat: TST-180 ASP-x0x Autolite® Copper Core Spark Plugs 6 $1.99 $11.94 SparkPlug-Type: ASP-605 IMH-090 INTENSE™ Modular Pulley System 1 $129.99 $129.99 Pulley_Size: IMP-340 Shipping: UPS Ground: $24.59 Sales Tax: $0.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total: $608.48 __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-04-2005, 11:08 AM	#83
GAGTSCTGuy GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Phil Join Date: May 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,034 Vehicle: 04 GAGT SCT,99 Formula	hehe, that didn't take long __________________ 2004 Grand Am GT SC/T --- Daily driver 1999 Firebird Formula --- Weekend toy 1998 Sunfire SE --- Wife's car N-Body

02-04-2005, 11:09 AM	#84
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	now the GAGT is playing catch up!!! darn! __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner Last edited by FORTEEN3GT; 02-04-2005 at 12:24 PM.

02-04-2005, 02:35 PM	#85
Lash Slow 5.0 AKA: Luke Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Milwaukee Age: 42 Posts: 1,047 Vehicle: '02 ZR-2/ '89 LX 5.0	bout time you wised up. __________________ Pinto II http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...f3013c716f.htm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...mustangpic.jpg

02-04-2005, 03:37 PM	#86
GTPprix Ranch! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Macomb Township, MI Age: 41 Posts: 469 Vehicle: Pontiacs	Done Just heed the warning So other than the power how do you like the car? __________________ 2006 GTO - Stock 2008 Trailblazer SS AWD Tune/Intake/CAI/Custom BCM 2009 Corvette Z06 - Stockish 2011 CTS-V 700CHP Custom BCM/IPC 2012 Acadia Denali - Custom BCM 2012 SRX - Custom BCM/IPC

02-04-2005, 03:38 PM	#87
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	how is Kubiache's GTP coming along? Car is nice...... it has a 1000X's more aminities than the gagt! it hugs the road and feels more refined! better suspension! heated seats! HUD! Power everything! did i mention factory blower? i layed down 2 thick black lines with the el cheapo tires! nothing but white smokin! no way the gagt can put it down like that xcept nitrous!!!!!! __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner Last edited by FORTEEN3GT; 02-04-2005 at 03:40 PM.

02-04-2005, 03:43 PM	#89
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	i would love an invite to an HPP Texas Street Shootout in Ennis!! the GTP and GAGT will both be mildly modded.... I'll run em both! GTP will be a low 14 car and GAGT will be a high 14. edit: but i will only put wear and tear if i can be in the mag! __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor!* SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-04-2005, 03:47 PM	#91
GTPprix Ranch! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Macomb Township, MI Age: 41 Posts: 469 Vehicle: Pontiacs	LOL I think hes got some tricks up his sleeve __________________ 2006 GTO - Stock 2008 Trailblazer SS AWD Tune/Intake/CAI/Custom BCM 2009 Corvette Z06 - Stockish 2011 CTS-V 700CHP Custom BCM/IPC 2012 Acadia Denali - Custom BCM 2012 SRX - Custom BCM/IPC

02-04-2005, 03:49 PM	#92
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	last night i tinted the sides 35 and back 15 percent....... 20 wouldnt pass inspection here in texas thanks to the factory glass being lightly shaded. under 20 percent wont pass! looks alot better with tint! __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-04-2005, 03:53 PM	#93
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	any issues on these things going catless? i added the "Disable_rearO2 $10.00" to the PCM order............ does this help performance? I was assuming i could do 3 inch piping to the cat back from the downpipe? no resonator, no cat, and SLP loudmouth....... what will it sound like? yeah or nah? __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-04-2005, 04:04 PM	#94
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Don't pollute... keep the cat. You can get plenty of performance by adding a larger high flow cat to the system and still be environmentally friendly. That and most V6's sound like crap with no cat... I know mine did. Too raspy. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

02-04-2005, 04:40 PM	#95
Lash Slow 5.0 AKA: Luke Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Milwaukee Age: 42 Posts: 1,047 Vehicle: '02 ZR-2/ '89 LX 5.0	Most of the GTP guys I know don't run cats. __________________ Pinto II http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...f3013c716f.htm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...mustangpic.jpg

02-04-2005, 10:31 PM	#97
DuBob GAGT - Newbie Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lititz, PA Age: 44 Posts: 17 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Prix GTP	Congrats on the GTP purchase! I'm still tuning mine in after my P&P heads and S1x cam install. I am maxing my injectors on the 3.4 pulley. With those fueling problems, I'm still running 13.5 @102. Once I fix the fuel, I should be running at 13.3 with the 3.4 pulley.....and I can drop to a 3.2 or 3.0 and hopefully hit 12.9's. You may have seen my car on the PFYC website....they used my picture for their SD hood page. Here's a recent picture of mine. If you have any questions about appearance mods, let me know......me and most other clubgp owners think I got things nailed. More pictures here. I really like dark blue GPs.....they are pretty rare. Put a set of chrome 17's or 18's on there, and that would kick ass. __________________ DuBob mine: Black 2000 Grand Prix GTP Sedan wifes: Red 1999 Grand Am GT Coupe Last edited by DuBob; 02-04-2005 at 10:39 PM.

02-05-2005, 08:17 AM	#99
Fish DO DO DO DO DO DO DO AKA: Brian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Elk Grove Village, IL Age: 39 Posts: 85 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Prix GT	Nice little mod list you have there. Hope you really enjoy the car. The S/C oil does smell like shiat. If you wait to change it, it only gets worse. Ported manifolds are still a great gain with the car. So I really suggest that if you dont wanna fork out the money for TOGS or SLPs. I actually did some research. Your better off getting the nickle togs. They are cheaper than SLPs now. __________________ Check out my website. 14.94 @ 91 MPH

02-05-2005, 09:59 AM	#100
Lash Slow 5.0 AKA: Luke Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Milwaukee Age: 42 Posts: 1,047 Vehicle: '02 ZR-2/ '89 LX 5.0	Nice car DuBob! My friend is all excited about his. He can run a 3.0 pulley because of the adition of water injection (along with a grocery list of other mods). Car pulls HARD. Now he really has to get some trany mods. Just got it rebuilt about 4-5 months ago under warranty. The 3.0 pulley is already tearing it up pretty bad. Time to upgrade __________________ Pinto II http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...f3013c716f.htm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...mustangpic.jpg

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