Will buy a Grand Prix this week... turbo or GTP?? - Page 6

FORTEEN3GT · 02-06-2005, 10:25 AM

http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/detail...tOwnerID=12400

take a look...... less mods than mine will have and a 13.7!!!

nice color

Lash · 02-06-2005, 01:31 PM

I'm more of a fan of the GTX style hoods.

All that guy needs is some upper and lower grille inserts and some clear corners.

FORTEEN3GT · 02-06-2005, 03:20 PM

grill inserts =

in my opinion!

i like them with a shiny tranny cooler and no inserts or plastic cover on the top side... kinda like my grand am with the top ram air, but larger on the grand prix.

cleared corners......

too bad the wife said no to rockers... otherwise they would be on!

maybe later.... much much later

Lash · 02-06-2005, 09:32 PM

you getting anything to scan the engine with?

Fish · 02-06-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

grill inserts =

in my opinion!

i like them with a shiny tranny cooler and no inserts or plastic cover on the top side... kinda like my grand am with the top ram air, but larger on the grand prix.

cleared corners......

too bad the wife said no to rockers... otherwise they would be on!

maybe later.... much much later

Just buy them and have them shipped to a friends house, take the car out on a saturday and do them. I bet she wont be able to tell.

DuBob · 02-07-2005, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Just buy them and have them shipped to a friends house, take the car out on a saturday and do them. I bet she wont be able to tell.

You can't tell when you have rockers......idle stays the same. I have a cam and heads, and it definately lets you know that when it's sitting in neutral. I was on the fence between rockers and a cam, but I chose cam because a local guy helped me out for a very, very good price.

If you do rockers, make sure you upgrade your springs and retainers and install new valve seals while you're in there.

With Rockers, PEM (ported exhaust manifolds), 3" downpipe, DHP, 41-932 plugs, and Intake you should be able to run a 3.2" SC pulley as a daily driver and a 3.0" pulley with race gas. I would also get a LS1m or Autotap and a miniAFC to tune your fuel tables in. That combo above would cost around 1000-1500 and make your car a mid 13 car easy. With more track prep and a good launch, low 13's are possible if everything is running right.

As far as grille inserts, I like mine a lot. I needed something to distinguish my car from every direction. The rear has the magnaflow exhaust tips, tinted tails, inlays, & SLP gen1 spoiler. The side has the rims & painted calipers. The front has the inlays, grilles, and hood. So from whichever direction I am coming from, I'm sure to get the attention.

Decide on a color "theme" and start with that. If I had a dark-blue GTP, I would use reflective silver inlays.

FORTEEN3GT · 02-07-2005, 07:09 AM

nope.... what tool reads knock while it is taking place?

DuBob · 02-07-2005, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

nope.... what tool reads knock while it is taking place?

For the L67 motor, a lot of people use the LS1m (www.ls1m.com). It is very easy to use and gets the job done. It is for the Palm.

Your other option is Autotap which can use a laptop or a Palm. They cost about the same (~$200 in clubgp classifieds) so it is really a preference. More GP'ers use the LS1m though.

Fish · 02-07-2005, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DuBob

You can't tell when you have rockers......idle stays the same.

I know. I have them

Quote:

nope.... what tool reads knock while it is taking place?

Yeah, forget about it. Just add more timing to compensate for the knock.

FORTEEN3GT · 02-07-2005, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish

Yeah, forget about it. Just add more timing to compensate for the knock.

you are kidding right? do i smell an intense joke here?

H.O. Driver · 02-07-2005, 08:56 AM

Mike, get the PowerTuner, scan, tune, and monitor your car all at the same time

A lot of people like ls1 edit for scanning, but people claim its kind of slow for real time monitoring, but its still better than nothing.

FORTEEN3GT · 02-07-2005, 08:58 AM

Wait A Sec....

with DHP dont you get the ability to tune 2 cars??

this will be good down the road!!

Vinaashak · 02-07-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kubiache

Yeah, the SC oil...smells like death. Don't be in a closed garage when you change your SC coupler. The smell doesn't go away.

Oh god it was horrible

Quote:

Originally Posted by H.O. Driver

Yea it did, but GPs have 2 mufflers, they sound good without a cat. Emissions, hahaha, a GP in California passed the sniffer test with TOGs, XP Cam, high flow cat, custom 3" exhuast and DHP, there was no special tuning done to pass inspections either. If it can pass with a nice sized cam in there, these motors don't spew out that much. So obviously it doesn't pollute that bad and the car ran low 12s street driven to boot. Just a thought

I wish Pat would post the vids of his catless GMPP exhuast, it sounds good but its not that loud.

EDIT: Found it, for your listening/veiwing pleasures.
http://home.comcast.net/~vinaashak/mycarclips.wmv

Yeah i kinda forgot about this thread or i woulda posted that. Im gonna get some better videos sometime soon, possibly on wednesday depending on weather.

oh and congrats on the car, your gonna love it

Fish · 02-07-2005, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

you are kidding right? do i smell an intense joke here?

I was just kidding. Haha funny................

I thought it was funny.

FORTEEN3GT · 02-08-2005, 07:07 AM

It was funny!

so .... how do I change the SC oil??

Vinaashak · 02-08-2005, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

It was funny!

so .... how do I change the SC oil??

There is a drain plug that has to come out. Then you just use a syringe to get the fuild out and filler bakc up. This isnt going to empty it all but will help. While you are doing that you might as well change the sc coupler as well. Not a big task and preventative maintence is good.

FORTEEN3GT · 02-08-2005, 12:34 PM

IS THE PLUG ON THE TOP FRONT?

how do you change the coupler?

Vinaashak · 02-08-2005, 12:37 PM

Its on the front of the snout. It uses an allen key to get out. I warn you though it is the worst smelling substance on earth. Now for the sc coupler. You need to take the alternator off, both drive belts, then remove the 10 or so bolts holding on the snout, then when the snout comes off the coupler is right there. There is a good right up on it @ www.zzperformance.com when you go and find the coupler they sell.

FORTEEN3GT · 02-08-2005, 12:39 PM

sounds like i should do this when i get the stage 1 kit in.... it will arrive tommorow... the car will be back thursday (it is at the dealership for detail and dent removal)

FORTEEN3GT · 02-14-2005, 09:52 AM

Stage 1 from Intense is installed on the 2001 GTP.........

man this thing is FAST!! Definately running low low 14's or high 13's!

Intense PCM
Cold Air Box w/ K & N cone
3.4 Pulley
180-stat
Plugs
New Belts

Now my GAGT is slower

why did the gas mileage go down on the GTP?

02-06-2005, 10:25 AM	#101
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/detail...tOwnerID=12400 take a look...... less mods than mine will have and a 13.7!!! nice color __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-06-2005, 01:31 PM	#102
Lash Slow 5.0 AKA: Luke Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Milwaukee Age: 42 Posts: 1,047 Vehicle: '02 ZR-2/ '89 LX 5.0	I'm more of a fan of the GTX style hoods. All that guy needs is some upper and lower grille inserts and some clear corners. __________________ Pinto II http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...f3013c716f.htm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...mustangpic.jpg

02-06-2005, 03:20 PM	#103
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	grill inserts = in my opinion! i like them with a shiny tranny cooler and no inserts or plastic cover on the top side... kinda like my grand am with the top ram air, but larger on the grand prix. cleared corners...... too bad the wife said no to rockers... otherwise they would be on! maybe later.... much much later __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-06-2005, 09:32 PM	#104
Lash Slow 5.0 AKA: Luke Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Milwaukee Age: 42 Posts: 1,047 Vehicle: '02 ZR-2/ '89 LX 5.0	you getting anything to scan the engine with? __________________ Pinto II http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...f3013c716f.htm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...mustangpic.jpg

02-07-2005, 07:09 AM	#107
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	nope.... what tool reads knock while it is taking place? __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-07-2005, 08:56 AM	#111
H.O. Driver I drive a V6 H.O. AKA: Timmah! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boyne City, MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,694 Vehicle: 99 GT, 03 DTS, 04 SRX	Mike, get the PowerTuner, scan, tune, and monitor your car all at the same time A lot of people like ls1 edit for scanning, but people claim its kind of slow for real time monitoring, but its still better than nothing. __________________ 1999 GA GT - lots of mods - Sold and missing it... 2001 GP GTP Special Edtion - Sold 2002 T/A - T-Tops, AT, LS6 intake, mainly stock - Sold 2003 Cadillac DTS - Gangsta Grandpa car - Gone 2004 Cadillac SRX - Baby hauler -Sold and missing it Life is too short to drive boring cars....why is that all I have now??????

02-07-2005, 08:58 AM	#112
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	Wait A Sec.... with DHP dont you get the ability to tune 2 cars?? this will be good down the road!! __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-08-2005, 07:07 AM	#115
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	It was funny! so .... how do I change the SC oil?? __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-08-2005, 12:34 PM	#117
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	IS THE PLUG ON THE TOP FRONT? how do you change the coupler? __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-08-2005, 12:39 PM	#119
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	sounds like i should do this when i get the stage 1 kit in.... it will arrive tommorow... the car will be back thursday (it is at the dealership for detail and dent removal) __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-14-2005, 09:52 AM	#120
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	Stage 1 from Intense is installed on the 2001 GTP......... man this thing is FAST!! Definately running low low 14's or high 13's! Intense PCM Cold Air Box w/ K & N cone 3.4 Pulley 180-stat Plugs New Belts Now my GAGT is slower why did the gas mileage go down on the GTP? __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

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