Who's the king of the road for $33k.......05' GTO vs. 05' STI *VID*

[mr_eh]

Originally Posted by ViperGTSR_500hp

thats not what im hearing over at clubwrx.net and NASIOC.com, seems like everyone is blowin em :/ or maybe i just happen to see those threads more frequently cuz im scared or something

i've done some extensive research and have a friend with a wrx who should be somewhere in the 12s on stock drivetrain, he is upgrading to an sti one, ANYWAY, he races the car, and launches the car etc... from what i understand you can NOT half ass a launch, you have to go balls out and you'll drive out of it just fine, if you ***** out and have no confidence in your driving abiliity you WILL shatter that transmission, do NOT launch the car for a few months, you will break it... get someone who kn ows how to drive a wrx/evo show you how and or read how to properly launch the car...

...and if you do intend to beat on the car, get out the wallet while you are at it

[bigbenSC]

Originally Posted by Mike3800

That big Oarnge Neon isn't bad looking.

Grrrrrrrrrr

[PontiacGT2K]

If you douchebags paid attention, that's a G6. Besides, I didn't say that wasn't going to be produced, I just said that pic was chopped a bit. The lighting/focus is way off.

[ViperGTSR]

Originally Posted by mr_eh

i've done some extensive research and have a friend with a wrx who should be somewhere in the 12s on stock drivetrain, he is upgrading to an sti one, ANYWAY, he races the car, and launches the car etc... from what i understand you can NOT half ass a launch, you have to go balls out and you'll drive out of it just fine, if you ***** out and have no confidence in your driving abiliity you WILL shatter that transmission, do NOT launch the car for a few months, you will break it... get someone who kn ows how to drive a wrx/evo show you how and or read how to properly launch the car...

...and if you do intend to beat on the car, get out the wallet while you are at it

sounds good to me. i dont plan on launching it for awhile. if by launching u mean acting like its the 3rd yellow at a drag strip, then yea i wont be. You can launch an STi at 6grand, spin rears then fronts, and youll be just fine, this i know, but thanks. I agree, cant ***** out when u launch (drag)

[omaha04GA]

Originally Posted by xxbackhillxx

sti, ws6, =

RX8, goat, SRT-4 =

Being an avid ex owner, and soon to be new owner of a Subaru I can honestly say most people who think the Subaru was BUILT for street racing....are complete ****ing retards.

The Subaru STI is a set of wheels from being able to drop into a rally cup and racing in one of the highest classes. yes SOME retards try to HP it out, and make it faster in the 1/4 and they like that...more power to them. But the majority of Subaru owners, and especially STI owners rock those cars for a special reason.

Rally cross
Autocross

The AWD car was built to be able to handle the day to day riving, and the off road abilities it offers. Take the goat to a rally course...watch it fall apart in under 2 turns. it's the same reason the GTO is awesome in the grand am cup, but you don't see too many STI in those cups.

One car is built for one genre
One car is built for another.

Once you realize that you will make it further in your comparison.
sadly all Americans see now a days is HP and are blinded by the fact that the goat handles like a dead moose. The STI handles amazingly well.

www.wrc.com
check it out, tell me your GTO can hang out there, then watch some of the videos and see why the Subaru car is built the way it is. WRC is hands down one of the hardest forms of racing outside dessert endurance races.

The GTO sucks regardless of this article
And the STI seats are > the GTO seats when I am firing down the autocross lot and/or riding/driving to work.

I am waiting for fall to grab myself a new Subaru, the lineup is sexy, original and fun. As opposed to the same split grill front end on every car we have here at GM.

[omaha04GA]

Originally Posted by ViperGTSR_500hp

thats not what im hearing over at clubwrx.net and NASIOC.com, seems like everyone is blowin em :/ or maybe i just happen to see those threads more frequently cuz im scared or something

the STI is bulletproof
the WRX is old and out of date and in BAD need of replacement.


and keep in mind we at nasioc find those retards who need a new tranny after a month and make fun of them for owning a car they can't handle or even phathom what do with...mostly sub 20 year old kids who crash them on a weekly basis...it provides us in the OT at nasioc something to laugh about

[omaha04GA]

Originally Posted by BigTaters

i would likely take the sti also if it had the outer shell(aka body) of the gto .. u cant tell me and if u do u are on crack that that sti looks better than that orange gto that i posted?

that GTO you posted is an aftermarket kit that will never see the light of day in america.

if you really want some crap liek that there is some AMAZING sti kits straight form japan that are simply sick and actually...OMFG functional, unliek the judge kit was GOING to be, yes the jude model was functional, but the kit was totoally NON functional. the STI kits, lips, skirts, bumpers, scoops, cooler, all are unctional and usefull...and therefore.......better



STI > any mass produced american made POS

[BigTaters]

that gto is the judge version that they are going to produce in 2007 likely. Dont ya remember the old Judge? it was way nicer lookin that the original gto's... and that other dude that posted the G6.. man those cars are ugly.. i would rather own a grand am gt than one of those to be perfectly honest.. i hate the way they look.. no wonder sales suck for them

[omaha04GA]

Originally Posted by BigTaters

that gto is the judge version that they are going to produce in 2007 likely. Dont ya remember the old Judge? it was way nicer lookin that the original gto's... and that other dude that posted the G6.. man those cars are ugly.. i would rather own a grand am gt than one of those to be perfectly honest.. i hate the way they look.. no wonder sales suck for them

i know what a G6 is, and i knwo what the judge is.

and you aparently forgot who is building the car.
teh GTO judge will NOT be functional, it WILL be an apperance package and that is all, those rims will NOT be coming with the judge you will get MAYBE a set of 17 in front and 18 in back that are the stock rims indifferent sizes.

remember, it is a pontiac not the holden, the holden is amazing, the pontiac sucks more **** than a hooker at a tailhook convention.

[GrahamKracka]

Originally Posted by omaha04GA

Being an avid ex owner, and soon to be new owner of a Subaru I can honestly say most people who think the Subaru was BUILT for street racing....are complete ****ing retards.

The Subaru STI is a set of wheels from being able to drop into a rally cup and racing in one of the highest classes. yes SOME retards try to HP it out, and make it faster in the 1/4 and they like that...more power to them. But the majority of Subaru owners, and especially STI owners rock those cars for a special reason.

Rally cross
Autocross

The AWD car was built to be able to handle the day to day riving, and the off road abilities it offers. Take the goat to a rally course...watch it fall apart in under 2 turns. it's the same reason the GTO is awesome in the grand am cup, but you don't see too many STI in those cups.

One car is built for one genre
One car is built for another.

Once you realize that you will make it further in your comparison.
sadly all Americans see now a days is HP and are blinded by the fact that the goat handles like a dead moose. The STI handles amazingly well.

www.wrc.com
check it out, tell me your GTO can hang out there, then watch some of the videos and see why the Subaru car is built the way it is. WRC is hands down one of the hardest forms of racing outside dessert endurance races.

The GTO sucks regardless of this article
And the STI seats are > the GTO seats when I am firing down the autocross lot and/or riding/driving to work.

I am waiting for fall to grab myself a new Subaru, the lineup is sexy, original and fun. As opposed to the same split grill front end on every car we have here at GM.

WRC and F1 > all other forms of racing

[GrahamKracka]

Originally Posted by omaha04GA

and keep in mind we at nasioc find those retards who need a new tranny after a month and make fun of them for owning a car they can't handle or even phathom what do with...mostly sub 20 year old kids who crash them on a weekly basis...it provides us in the OT at nasioc something to laugh about

werd

[Greed4Speed]

Originally Posted by ViperGTSR_500hp

read the article. the STi > all. The GTO is for the mushy ***** lovers. **** amercan cars. STi owns. They both pretty much run the same 1/4 BTW 13.2

Funny comment from someone who can barely break into the 14's. Especially when its directed to a car of the exact same make that you drive, but runs a full 1.5 sec quicker STOCK while getting the same if not better fuel milage.

As for the gas guzzler/ fuel milage debate...Only the auto GTO gets the tax. The manual doesn't. M6 (manual 6 speed) LSx cars regularly see 20+ mpg city and 28+ highway. I've gotten a best of 30 mpg on crappy 86 octane cruising at 85 mph w/a nice 125 mph run on that tank also. Can an STI do that? Hell no, 86 octane would kill it.

As for who is greater? Who cares. It depends on what you want.

If you want a drag car, get a Goat. AWD will slow you down once you get low 11's and below. If you drive in snow, AWD would be great.

But really, they're both great cars and I'd drive either. If I ever need a "family" car I'd seriously look at an Impreza 4 door or wagon and build up a nice little sleeper.

[GrahamKracka]

Originally Posted by Greed4Speed

Funny comment from someone who can barely break into the 14's. Especially when its directed to a car of the exact same make that you drive, but runs a full 1.5 sec quicker STOCK while getting the same if not better fuel milage.

funny...that time in his profile is from his grand am

[Greed4Speed]

Originally Posted by GrahamKracka

funny...that time in his profile is from his grand am

Ya, and he is ragging on another Poncho. Daddy got him a new car so now he's a Poncho hater.

[xxbackhillxx]

Originally Posted by Greed4Speed

Ya, and he is ragging on another Poncho. Daddy got him a new car so now he's a Poncho hater.

Too bad he bought it himself.

[mr_eh]

****ing pwned.

and the whole point of a wrx (not the sti) is to build a sleeper imo =P...

and i live in nyc, my cars been burried in snow, every time it snows the awd guys get out and get busy snow drifting..

[BigTaters]

the judge will not be functional?? wtf does that mean.. the judge was a model like the z28 or ss or sti... not a damn hood scoop .. and ya the holden has more nutz than the gto because GM will never let a north american car have more hp than the beloved corvette.. retards

[omaha04GA]

Originally Posted by BigTaters

the judge will not be functional?? wtf does that mean.. the judge was a model like the z28 or ss or sti... not a damn hood scoop .. and ya the holden has more nutz than the gto because GM will never let a north american car have more hp than the beloved corvette.. retards

you are still living in the past my friend.
american made cars, all those "for show" hood scoops, and vents that are NON functional other than the ram air......wooohooo there.
The judge had nostrils remember YOUR picture, lift the hood, it had DUAL air intakes, one under each nostril. and there will NOT be done that way when they get produced, if they get produced. the HP and everything the judge "model" car was will NEVER make it live...ever.

The judge model if it EVEN gets produced(which it own't and we all knwo it) it will be an appearance package like the SC/t and will never be used again.

you keep forgetting who is makigt he car NOW and how they are NOW. yes back in the day the judge and the Z28 were AMAZING cars, still are, but today, no way in hell pontiac makes a car that good and functional. they would be impeeding on their vette market, and they can't/won't do that.

I hope i eat my words on the judge REALLY i do, but I am all but certain i won't be

[ViperGTSR]

Originally Posted by Greed4Speed

Ya, and he is ragging on another Poncho. Daddy got him a new car so now he's a Poncho hater.

hahaha you are a douchebag, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hilarious man


omaha jsut about cleaned things up in this thread

[Greed4Speed]

Originally Posted by ViperGTSR_500hp

hahaha you are a douchebag, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hilarious man


omaha jsut about cleaned things up in this thread

Must have hit close to the mark to get a childish reply like that.

You obviously spent a lot of cash on the Ga you had and couldn't go very fast, then got rid of it. Now you have a decently quick car and you're hating on all domestics like a little r!cer dork. You're on to talk about douchebags.

Attitudes like yours is what R.i.c.e. is all about. I don't care who makes the car. If its quick its quick, and thats good by me.