Who's the king of the road for $33k.......05' GTO vs. 05' STI *VID*

[Greed4Speed]

Originally Posted by xxbackhillxx

Too bad he bought it himself.

No 19 year old can even get credit to buy a car w/out a cosigner. I'm sure he traded in the GA, that daddy probably bought. Is he still living under Daddy's roof eating daddy's food? If so....daddy bought it.

[PontiacGT2K]

Originally Posted by Greed4Speed

No 19 year old can even get credit to buy a car w/out a cosigner. I'm sure he traded in the GA, that daddy probably bought. Is he still living under Daddy's roof eating daddy's food? If so....daddy bought it.

It's called cash, and there are plenty of 19 year olds with cash to front for expensive things. Like he said, it's called day trading, if you're smart, you can become a millionaire over night. Hell, if you're decent, you can make $100k a year just chillin on IPOs if you know a few brokers.

[ViperGTSR]

and my dads in jail you ****head

[mr_eh]

for robbing a bank, but they never found that missing 30k did they? DID THEY!

[ViperGTSR]

hahahahahahahaahahahahah

now everyone knows! oH noEs!1!!!1

[GrahamKracka]

Originally Posted by Greed4Speed

No 19 year old can even get credit to buy a car w/out a cosigner.

wanna bet?...thats what i did with my GA..you just need a big enough down payment

[omaha04GA]

Originally Posted by Greed4Speed

Must have hit close to the mark to get a childish reply like that.

You obviously spent a lot of cash on the Ga you had and couldn't go very fast, then got rid of it. Now you have a decently quick car and you're hating on all domestics like a little r!cer dork. You're on to talk about douchebags.

Attitudes like yours is what R.i.c.e. is all about. I don't care who makes the car. If its quick its quick, and thats good by me.

The Grabd am slow is never and will never be a "street racer" yeah some people here have modded the cars out with superchargers(not cheap) that are getting decent times, or turbo charged GA with some NO2 firing it off and you are getting decent times.

However incase you fail to realize the Subaru lineage is > the GA lineage

The Subaru AWD is > the FWD torque steer you get in a souped up GA
The Subaru chassis, engine, , service, build quality, and interior quality is all > the GA


You can hate on domestics because they suck, massive cubic engines with massive HP does not equal a good ride in all cases. Especially when it comes to a daily driver.

You CAN hop in an STI and be FINE for a daily driver here, hell I see em all the time. You CANNOT get in a souped up GA and daily drive that in the winter. and the GA HAS to be souped up to just get CLOSE to the STI/WRX area.

so if you want to get in a ****ing contest of "dumping cash into car X makes it better than car Y" you are an idiot, the post is about daily drivers.

domestic cars with horrid gas mileage, engine trouble, built quality issues and all the other issues the domestics are running into, are very FAR from the decent gas mileage, superior speed, handling, looks, and quality.

Hate on each side all you want, but they both have their upsides.
American trucks are better than the imports, but domest cars are worse off then the imports. Mainly because only in America do you see a ton of trucks like we have and import wise they specialize in cars and sub compacts

Europe, Japan and the GM/ford builders in OTHER portions of the world are FAR better then the crap America is pooping out. The UAW are VERY much to blame for this, but that is a whole nother post and a whole nother day.

[Greed4Speed]

Originally Posted by PontiacGT2K

It's called cash, and there are plenty of 19 year olds with cash to front for expensive things. Like he said, it's called day trading, if you're smart, you can become a millionaire over night. Hell, if you're decent, you can make $100k a year just chillin on IPOs if you know a few brokers.

Its still called living off someone elses money while you're saving up at that age. Therfore it isn't all you is it?

[PontiacGT2K]

Originally Posted by Greed4Speed

Its still called living off someone elses money while you're saving up at that age. Therfore it isn't all you is it?

Who cares? Point is, he purchased the car.

[PontiacGT2K]

Originally Posted by omaha04GA

The Grabd am slow is never and will never be a "street racer" yeah some people here have modded the cars out with superchargers(not cheap) that are getting decent times, or turbo charged GA with some NO2 firing it off and you are getting decent times.

However incase you fail to realize the Subaru lineage is > the GA lineage

The Subaru AWD is > the FWD torque steer you get in a souped up GA
The Subaru chassis, engine, , service, build quality, and interior quality is all > the GA


You can hate on domestics because they suck, massive cubic engines with massive HP does not equal a good ride in all cases. Especially when it comes to a daily driver.

You CAN hop in an STI and be FINE for a daily driver here, hell I see em all the time. You CANNOT get in a souped up GA and daily drive that in the winter. and the GA HAS to be souped up to just get CLOSE to the STI/WRX area.

so if you want to get in a ****ing contest of "dumping cash into car X makes it better than car Y" you are an idiot, the post is about daily drivers.

domestic cars with horrid gas mileage, engine trouble, built quality issues and all the other issues the domestics are running into, are very FAR from the decent gas mileage, superior speed, handling, looks, and quality.

Hate on each side all you want, but they both have their upsides.
American trucks are better than the imports, but domest cars are worse off then the imports. Mainly because only in America do you see a ton of trucks like we have and import wise they specialize in cars and sub compacts

Europe, Japan and the GM/ford builders in OTHER portions of the world are FAR better then the crap America is pooping out. The UAW are VERY much to blame for this, but that is a whole nother post and a whole nother day.

Agreed 100%. Only difference, my fav. truck is the Nissan Titan.

[Greed4Speed]

Originally Posted by PontiacGT2K

Who cares? Point is, he purchased the car.

Not by himself is my point.

Plus had he gotten a TA to begin with he'd probably be making the same stupid remarks about imports that he made about domestics.

[PontiacGT2K]

Originally Posted by Greed4Speed

Not by himself is my point.

Plus had he gotten a TA to begin with he'd probably be making the same stupid remarks about imports that he made about domestics.

If he's smart enough to day trade, he's smart enough to not buy an f-body.

[Greed4Speed]

Originally Posted by omaha04GA

The Grabd am slow is never and will never be a "street racer" yeah some people here have modded the cars out with superchargers(not cheap) that are getting decent times, or turbo charged GA with some NO2 firing it off and you are getting decent times.

However incase you fail to realize the Subaru lineage is > the GA lineage

The Subaru AWD is > the FWD torque steer you get in a souped up GA
The Subaru chassis, engine, , service, build quality, and interior quality is all > the GA


You can hate on domestics because they suck, massive cubic engines with massive HP does not equal a good ride in all cases. Especially when it comes to a daily driver.

You CAN hop in an STI and be FINE for a daily driver here, hell I see em all the time. You CANNOT get in a souped up GA and daily drive that in the winter. and the GA HAS to be souped up to just get CLOSE to the STI/WRX area.

so if you want to get in a ****ing contest of "dumping cash into car X makes it better than car Y" you are an idiot, the post is about daily drivers.

domestic cars with horrid gas mileage, engine trouble, built quality issues and all the other issues the domestics are running into, are very FAR from the decent gas mileage, superior speed, handling, looks, and quality.

Hate on each side all you want, but they both have their upsides.
American trucks are better than the imports, but domest cars are worse off then the imports. Mainly because only in America do you see a ton of trucks like we have and import wise they specialize in cars and sub compacts

Europe, Japan and the GM/ford builders in OTHER portions of the world are FAR better then the crap America is pooping out. The UAW are VERY much to blame for this, but that is a whole nother post and a whole nother day.

You really need to get better reading comprehension.

To begin with, the comparison was between a GTO and STi.

Funny how high HP domestic can't be driven daily. I drive a SS w/ 315 rwhp daily. I have a close friend that drives his 400 rwhp Formula daily. There are many guys who drive 12-11 sec domestics daily. Just take a look at the 03-04 Cobra w/ 390 RWHP STOCK. I guess all these daily driven "high Hp" cars really aren't?

Domestics get horrible fuel milage huh? I guarantee my domestic gets better milage than an STi. STi =18/24 mpg (from Subaru's website). 18 mpg city is easy for me even with spirited driving or a lot of sitting in traffic. I regularly see over 20 mpg around here. 28 mpg hwy is what I average. If you actually read my post you'll see I've gotten up to 30 mpg w/a nice 125 mph run on that tank. A GTO is basically the same drivetrain so it should get similar numbers. Even a SC'd Cobra could at least match the same milage of the Sti. So much for your arguement there. Time to lose that R I cer mentality that domestics drink fuel like mad.

Superior speed? If you're talking top speed, AWD will slow you down. If you're talking 1/4 mile, lower lower than 11 and its slows you down also. BTW, can the STi do 150 mph stock?

Looks? That is pure opinion. I think tall workbench spoilers are overkill, but thats me.

Quality? I've seen quality issues in imports also.

Handling? Depends on the car. Care to try a C5 or C6? Want to compare cars of the same size? A Cobalt I'm sure would hadle quite well, at least as well as a Civic. My GA handles at least as well as an Accord. I've driven stock imports and domestics back to back on a coarse and they all handle comperably when you compare them in the same class.

Hate on both sides? I haven't hated on any side. I've only hated on the domestic bashing by people who obviously have had only 1 other car to compare anything to. If you want to be technical about it, my SS is an import...from Canada.

I do agree about the UAW a little. I also think manufacturers and government regulations are to blame also.

[Greed4Speed]

Originally Posted by ViperGTSR_500hp

and my dads in jail you ****head

More of the big words from the little boy.

[mr_eh]

worst ****ing arguements ever.... seriously, go back to arguement school or something...

[Mike3800]

Originally Posted by PontiacGT2K

If you douchebags paid attention, that's a G6.

No way. Thanks for pointing that out. Thanks for pointing it out to the guy with the G6 that too, I am sure he didn't know either.

[Mike3800]

I refuse to contribute to the "domestic vs. import" argument. It's 2005, half the "domestic" cars are imports and vise versa, not to mention that there are import car companies like Mitsubishi that fall into the same steriotype as what some people see all domestics, with questionable quality and poor resale value.

Both STi and GTO are great but very different vehicles, however, I do not plan on buying either.

[UNCTYPE-S]

who would've thought this would turn into a domestic vs import bash thread

[Greed4Speed]

More like a bash/defend domestic thread. I have seen no hate towards imports. At least not from me. Like I said, if I wanted a sleeper family car I'd be shopping for an Impreza wagon to mod. If a car is quick, then great. Who cares who makes it and why bash another car just because its a little slower in stock form? Is there many people who race that would leave their performance car stock anyway?

[ViperGTSR]

most people dont bash the GTO cuz of its performance
*cough*lookslikeacavalier*cough*