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AznGA · 11-17-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by caraudiodave

kman- your GA is having problems because you modded it. domestics dont seem to take well to mods anyways.

id say 350Z all the way. id never buy another GM product after the way they treat their loyal customers.

lets see here:
G6 GTP------240 hp-------~$25k
350Z--------300 hp--------~$27K (used)
Cobalt SS--205hp---------~$22k

the difference of 60 hp between the G6 and z is a HUGE difference. plus, the VQ engine is a proven reliable motor that can withstand mods easily, where as the 3900 is a new incarnation fo teh motor that you are currently having issues with. i presonally dont trust GM and their damn gaskets.

Exactly, horsepower sells cars.

xxbackhillxx · 11-18-2005, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by iceman

There's much more to a car (and its price) than how fast it is.. I'll leave it at that.

Honestly I don't think you should listen to any of us, test drive what you want and buy what you like the best

+1 for Sethy-poo

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Originally Posted by AznGA

Exactly, horsepower sells cars.

No, it doesn't.

mr_eh · 11-18-2005, 05:55 AM

of course there are things more important then how fast it is - but in the mix of cars he's looking at - what do the other cars have that the neon doesn't? (and you can leave roll up rear windows out of it)

coupe · 11-18-2005, 05:59 AM

Ya know this all depends on what kind of consumer you are that decides what sells. For me i would be looking for the most HP and TQ and handling for the dollar, i could care less about how the interior looks or the wheels that it comes with or the sterio system and all the electronic toy's. I can change all that stuff ya know.

GregFarz78 · 11-18-2005, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mr_eh

of course there are things more important then how fast it is - but in the mix of cars he's looking at - what do the other cars have that the neon doesn't? (and you can leave roll up rear windows out of it)

I dont want this thread locked but the neon is no where near in the same category as the other cars mentioned (besides the cobolt). The neon was built for cheap speed nothing more nothing less. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems kman is looking for a little more refined automobile than a neon, I'm not knocking the srt at all maybe I'm getting old and relizing theres more to a car than just speed

11-18-2005, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GregFarz78

. it seems kman is looking for a little more refined automobile than a neon

Correct!

11-18-2005, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GregFarz78

. it seems kman is looking for a little more refined automobile than a neon

Correct! I am not solely at how fast a car can go, but how well a car can go fast.

2003SCT · 11-18-2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KmanGT1

Correct! I am not solely at how fast a car can go, but how well a car can go fast.

Great quote! And very true.....

Horsepower only sells certain types of cars..but still, HP will only get you so far...its the rest of the car you live with day in and day out.

CHRIS

Pipelayaz · 11-18-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_eh

^^ srt4, 24k (after taxes) and faster then every car mentioned in this thread so far...

but what do i know

Not a Mach 1.

The SRT-4 has a few ponies but no matter what its always going to be a Neon.

mr_eh · 11-18-2005, 07:28 PM

the neon is no where inthe same category as a g6 or a ****ing 350z?

home boy, do some research, the neon suspension blows those cars out of the water, not to mention the drivetrain/power aspects as well...

im sorry if a neon isn't "refined" - i went with the car with the most potential for what i want to do - and that is quite simply drag race....

i rather enjoy the interior of my neon vs the grand am, i got racing seats, everything is easily accessible, the headunit comes programmed for the amp/sub the car comes with, moonroof(or sunroof? the one that opens up completely)...

it's a nice comfortable car... i dunno how that translates to cheap/unrefined ?

i understand its a neon and all but... is a cobra still a v6 mustang?

is a ws6 still a trans am? is a z06 still a corvette? is a evo still a lancer? is the sti still an impreza?

you people really need to take a look at how you judge cars, im not saying my way is the right way but a lot of people are just hoping on the bandwagon of stupidity.

i know its not ALL about having the fastest car, but stop acting like the neon is some peice of **** cheap car... because its a helllllllllllllllllll of a lot nicer then what most of you drive.

dually noted i understand you are all just giving me grief because of who i am, but you guys really come off as jealous whiney ****s when your moaning about a neon...

AaronGTR · 11-18-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_eh

the neon is no where inthe same category as a g6 or a ****ing 350z?

Nope, not really. Really the G6 and the 350Z aren't even in the same catagory, even if the 350Z is used and within 3K of the price of a new G6. All three of them are really built with different ultimate goals.

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...home boy, do some research, the neon suspension blows those cars out of the water, not to mention the drivetrain/power aspects as well...

Thats funny because when sport compact car was working on their project SRT-4, once they started making the smallest increases in horsepower and braking, the suspension needed changes. As soon as they put coilovers on it, it didn't handle much better and they started getting mad wheel hop because of bushing deflection, so they had to change all the bushings to urethane. The suspension on the SRT is basically at the max of what it can handle from the factory.

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...im sorry if a neon isn't "refined" - i went with the car with the most potential for what i want to do - and that is quite simply drag race....

I'm not trying to knock neons here. The fact that some aspects of them are maxed out isn't a bad thing since their limits are high, and they do well what they were designed for, which is go fast. Just as Keith pointed out, that's not the only thing that's important to some people.

Ajaxus · 11-18-2005, 11:43 PM

eh, not to be offensive. but ive driven a friend's neon before, and i couldnt fit behind the wheel (i wedged myself in) and im a decent 6'2". i dont know how tall kman is but sometimes that needs to be considered. just because you fit comfortably in your car doesnt mean everybody fits comfortably in your car.

and Tom, if you ever say sethy-poo again im gonna puke...all over the place...for a few days solid atleast..

11-19-2005, 10:35 AM

Well, I just started paperwork on a G6 GTP,6 MT in Crimson Red. I feel this is the best choice for me and my pocket. The car is quiet and suprisingly quick. Most of you will probably disagree with my decision, but I feel this a car I can live with on a daily basis. I was on another test drive with the salesman today, and received a few admiring glances.

LukeD · 11-19-2005, 10:51 AM

Good choice Keith! I think you'll like it. GM cars have their problems but I'm sure you'll enjoy it none the less. I think the 5speed GTP has a lot of potential bottled up. I'm actually curious if that eaton you have would work on the 3500 with some modification. Maybe there will be a roush kit for it too. Who knows what kind of aftermarket these will get once this engine has been out a while.

atc3434 · 11-19-2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KmanGT1

Well, I just started paperwork on a G6 GTP,6 MT in Crimson Red. I feel this is the best choice for me and my pocket. The car is quiet and suprisingly quick. Most of you will probably disagree with my decision, but I feel this a car I can live with on a daily basis. I was on another test drive with the salesman today, and received a few admiring glances

Cool man. Its neat to see we've now got three fairly serious Grand Am modders (Blackrider, KmanGt1, and Nikki) all driving 3900 M6 G6GTPs. I'm excited. Good choice, I hope it works out well.

cavingchick · 11-19-2005, 11:22 AM

hey congrats on your decision. enjoy your new car!

11-19-2005, 11:37 AM

Thanks. I hope all goes well. The first thing to mod is the exhaust. I am thinking, 2.5" piping from the flex on back. A Magnaflow muffler and 3.5" tips should do the trick. This will be a custom job.

H.O. Driver · 11-19-2005, 11:38 AM

Congrats Keith! Can't wait to see pictures of it, the GTP we had with a bad launch and people in the car went 14.7 @ 94mph! Free up the intake and exhuast and you got a decent quick car on your hands!

11-19-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by H.O. Driver

Congrats Keith! Can't wait to see pictures of it, the GTP we had with a bad launch and people in the car went 14.7 @ 94mph! Free up the intake and exhuast and you got a decent quick car on your hands!

Thanks, Tim. This car should be in the low 14's with the intake and exhaust mods.

bigbenSC · 11-19-2005, 12:42 PM

Good choice, welcome to the G6 bandwagon!

11-18-2005, 05:55 AM	#123
mr_eh Hi. AKA: xxx Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Staten Island, NY Age: 39 Posts: 4,405 Vehicle: 05 Srt-4 / 00GrandAmSE	of course there are things more important then how fast it is - but in the mix of cars he's looking at - what do the other cars have that the neon doesn't? (and you can leave roll up rear windows out of it) __________________ 4cyl ga se -> 431whp srt4 -> 600whp s14? wtf.

11-18-2005, 05:59 AM	#124
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	Ya know this all depends on what kind of consumer you are that decides what sells. For me i would be looking for the most HP and TQ and handling for the dollar, i could care less about how the interior looks or the wheels that it comes with or the sterio system and all the electronic toy's. I can change all that stuff ya know. __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

11-18-2005, 07:28 PM	#130
mr_eh Hi. AKA: xxx Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Staten Island, NY Age: 39 Posts: 4,405 Vehicle: 05 Srt-4 / 00GrandAmSE	the neon is no where inthe same category as a g6 or a **ing 350z? home boy, do some research, the neon suspension blows those cars out of the water, not to mention the drivetrain/power aspects as well... im sorry if a neon isn't "refined" - i went with the car with the most potential for what i want to do - and that is quite simply drag race.... i rather enjoy the interior of my neon vs the grand am, i got racing seats, everything is easily accessible, the headunit comes programmed for the amp/sub the car comes with, moonroof(or sunroof? the one that opens up completely)... it's a nice comfortable car... i dunno how that translates to cheap/unrefined ? i understand its a neon and all but... is a cobra still a v6 mustang? is a ws6 still a trans am? is a z06 still a corvette? is a evo still a lancer? is the sti still an impreza? you people really need to take a look at how you judge cars, im not saying my way is the right way but a lot of people are just hoping on the bandwagon of stupidity. i know its not ALL about having the fastest car, but stop acting like the neon is some peice of cheap car... because its a helllllllllllllllllll of a lot nicer then what most of you drive. dually noted i understand you are all just giving me grief because of who i am, but you guys really come off as jealous whiney **s when your moaning about a neon... __________________ 4cyl ga se -> 431whp srt4 -> 600whp s14? wtf.

11-19-2005, 10:35 AM	#133
MetaGTP1 Guest Posts: n/a	Well, I just started paperwork on a G6 GTP,6 MT in Crimson Red. I feel this is the best choice for me and my pocket. The car is quiet and suprisingly quick. Most of you will probably disagree with my decision, but I feel this a car I can live with on a daily basis. I was on another test drive with the salesman today, and received a few admiring glances. Last edited by MetaGTP1; 11-19-2005 at 03:34 PM.

11-19-2005, 10:51 AM	#134
LukeD Hear it scream! AKA: Luke Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California, Bay Area Age: 36 Posts: 924 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan	Good choice Keith! I think you'll like it. GM cars have their problems but I'm sure you'll enjoy it none the less. I think the 5speed GTP has a lot of potential bottled up. I'm actually curious if that eaton you have would work on the 3500 with some modification. Maybe there will be a roush kit for it too. Who knows what kind of aftermarket these will get once this engine has been out a while. __________________ 1999 Grand Am GT1 Sedan (Bright Red) -- CAI, SLP exhaust, MSD, DHP, TOG, P&P Upper and Lower, FFWD UD Pully, 42.5# injectors and RAM AIR, EATON style!

11-19-2005, 11:22 AM	#136
cavingchick married ol hag! AKA: Kelly Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: pottstown, pa Age: 41 Posts: 831 Vehicle: 06 Subaru WRX 5MT	hey congrats on your decision. enjoy your new car! __________________ ohai! cavingman and cavingchick are hitched!

11-19-2005, 11:37 AM	#137
MetaGTP1 Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks. I hope all goes well. The first thing to mod is the exhaust. I am thinking, 2.5" piping from the flex on back. A Magnaflow muffler and 3.5" tips should do the trick. This will be a custom job.

11-19-2005, 11:38 AM	#138
H.O. Driver I drive a V6 H.O. AKA: Timmah! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boyne City, MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,694 Vehicle: 99 GT, 03 DTS, 04 SRX	Congrats Keith! Can't wait to see pictures of it, the GTP we had with a bad launch and people in the car went 14.7 @ 94mph! Free up the intake and exhuast and you got a decent quick car on your hands! __________________ 1999 GA GT - lots of mods - Sold and missing it... 2001 GP GTP Special Edtion - Sold 2002 T/A - T-Tops, AT, LS6 intake, mainly stock - Sold 2003 Cadillac DTS - Gangsta Grandpa car - Gone 2004 Cadillac SRX - Baby hauler -Sold and missing it Life is too short to drive boring cars....why is that all I have now??????

11-19-2005, 12:42 PM	#140
bigbenSC SC and Loving It! AKA: Ben Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, KY Age: 36 Posts: 1,772 Vehicle: 2005 SRT-6, 2001 GA GT	Good choice, welcome to the G6 bandwagon!

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