Quick review of the G6 GTP coupe (no test drive)

[Mike3800]

Originally Posted by bigbengt67

^ Most german cars do it that way, its no more secure than the american way, but it makes it fit flush with the body.

Mine is "secure" since I purchased an 8$ locking fuel cap before gas prices spiked to 3 bucks a while back.

[Mike3800]

Originally Posted by bigbengt67

^ Most german cars do it that way, its no more secure than the american way, but it makes it fit flush with the body.

The HHR is like that now. Shame the rest of the vehicle is ugly. I like the HHR otherwise.

[2003SCT]

Im kind of digging the whole HHR thing...and was asuming that I wouldnt. I, like many though, jeez another PT cruiser. But esp. at the price I have come around quickly and the look, to me, isnt too bad. Base models even come with alot of features.

BTW, my co-workers 3 year old Subaru Forrester has a regular fuel filler door like the GA.

CHRIS

[bigbenSC]

Originally Posted by Mike3800

A G6 5-speed 4cyl coupe would have been a good thing for them to make.

Get a 2.4 Cobalt SS for that fun.

[Mike3800]

Originally Posted by bigbengt67

Get a 2.4 Cobalt SS for that fun.

4 wheel disks? I am asking cause I don't know.

[2003SCT]

Yes. Big ones at that!

Chris

[Mike3800]

Originally Posted by 2003SCT

Yes. Big ones at that!

Chris

Not bad considering it starts @ 18G's.

[GTLUVA]

I'm currently digging my new GTP I would have gotten a GTO for the price I paid but I wanted a sunroof. But my 3900 feels a little bit faster than my 34000 I owned. But right now I'm missing my silver car because black is a bitch to keep clean. But I got to start modding this bitch the razzi kit will be going on in the spring.

[GTPguy99]

Noone cares whore now go and drive off that cliff please.

Originally Posted by SSGuy

Noone cares whore now go and drive off that cliff please.

[Vintalage]

Originally Posted by bigbengt67

^ Most german cars do it that way, its no more secure than the american way, but it makes it fit flush with the body.

Just wanted to point out that it is secure. It works using the central locking system (door lock button). When you unlock the car, the fuel door unlocks. Pretty nice.

[Cormaster]

Originally Posted by SSGuy

Noone cares whore now go and drive off that cliff please.

Come on now, she was being good. I notice a lot of people like to pick on her because of stuff she's said in previous threads... I think that kind of stuff should stay in those threads, and not be drug into another thread. Thats my 2 cents. Its no wonder all her threads get locked with everyone picking on her.

[Vintalage]

Didn't want to return back to this subject, but I saw this post over at GM Insidenews today and had to share it here (lives in NY and has a G6 GTP by the way):

Originally Posted by Buick61

It took less than three months, and I'm now done with the G6.

It doesn't shift correctly (Dealer says it's normal)
The headlights are too dim
It's been in the shop since Monday night due to electrical issue involving the engine.
It rattles like a baby's...well, rattle
it just doesn't feel like it has 240hp.
and the power-steering cuts out at parking lot speeds...

If it's having issues already (less than 3,000 miles) I fear for the future.

So anyway, if I'm to give 'er the heave ho, I'll need something RWD.

I test drove the Dodge Charger SXT today (since I could surmise what the R/T would be like having owned a 300C), and was instantly impressed.

It's powerful, the transmission is seamless, and it drives/feels like it costs five or ten thousand more than the G6 did (In fact, it was stickered $1,000 less). Of course, that wasn't the Hemi. And the Hemi isn't that much more money. But it is still more money. Knowing how well it operates, I wouldn't mind having a V6 Charger, but it would bother me to have something called "Charger" and it not have a V8 rotating the rear wheels.

The other option is just to sell the G6, pay off the remainder of the loan, buy a 1996 Chevrolet Caprice LT1, and put the rest in a high-yield savings account.

A still further option is the Ford Mustang GT. I'd really like a 4-door, but a V8 RWD car for $26,500 is hard to ignore. But then again, it doesn't have stability control, my age would probably lead to a HIGH insurance premium, and it's not practical in the trunk department.

Decisions, decisions.

Originally Posted by Buick61

You're right. This is my third new GM car. I was really hoping that all the hype and the promises of those on this very board would pan out. My last two GM cars ('98 Malibu and '00 Saturn L-Series V6) were rather problematic. I figured by the 2006 model year, they'd be on their game. They're not. And I'm ready to move on.

I, at least, gave them a third try.


I'm not a real fan of the GTO. Don't like the style, lack of trunk, and lack of stability control.

Originally Posted by Buick61

As I said, if I decide to happily get rid of this car, I would only consider rear wheel drive. I can't even express how annoyed I am with the way they executed the G6 GTP's driveline.

Beyond the lack of power and the difficulty in shifting, the car has enough torque-steer to get you into trouble. Compounding the torque-steer is the fact that the tires follow the grooves in the pavement like a train follows tracks.

Yes, IAMCANADIAN, I knew this particular car had shifting issues when I made the purchase. I naively figured it could be easily corrected by a cable adjustment. The power/torque steer issue is something that I would not have known by the multiple test drives I took. I don't abuse the cars. I drive them in a respectful manner just to get a general feel. Beating them is generally frowned upon.

I bought the car because it was a reasonably priced, well-equipped manual tranny mid-sized four-door made by GM that seemed to have the right on-paper stats. I thought I'd give them another chance.

It all comes down to how much I can get back on trade in. I may be stuck with it for some time.

Originally Posted by Buick61

It's all moot for now guys, the clincher was the horrifically abysmal trade-in value of the G6.

MSRP in September: $29,855 minus a $500 option package discount
Trade-in Value in December: $18,000

Let's do some analysis.

In two months and 2,300 miles of ownership, the car lost a whopping 40% of it's value. TWO MONTHS. Factor in that I actually paid $25,500, and it still lost an unacceptable 29%.

Some perspective.

My 300C stickered for $34,500 or thereabouts. I owned it for 15 months and accumulated 16,500 miles. The trade-in value was $28,000. The loss there was 18.8%. Now, I didn't pay sticker. I paid $31,000. The real loss in value over that stretch of time and mileage (and the car was dented) was just 9.7%.

Even if GM brings more compelling cars to the market (i.e. RWD), I don't believe I'll put them on my shopping list. GM burns its own customers with such poor resale by practically giving away comparable new cars. It's truly sad when a used Chrysler product is generally worth more than a used GM product. It's the facts, and it will not be ignored for my next purchase.

Originally Posted by Buick61

When you're excited to own a certain car, and spend a lot of money on it, you want it to be perfect. I took a chance on a first year Chrysler product and it had issues. I wasn't pleased, to say the least. But the issues were corrected and what I was left with was an extraordinarily satisfying car. From driving dynamics, style, power, space, and even status. It was just a great thing to own for a 22 year old.

The difference with the G6 was that I wasn't expecting problems. It was the second model year. And GM is supposed to have the best quality among the domestics. Perhaps the biggest difference was that I bought the G6 mostly for practicality. Which, for car people, is a big mistake. Sure it's cheaper than the 300C, and I don't worry as much about parking scars and muddy shoes, but there's no visceral appeal. No emotional connection. It's a very well-optioned appliance. So when I buy a car for practicality purposes, and it starts to disappoint, there's no emotional part of me that is willing to overlook the faults.

And that's that.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...2&page=1&pp=20

Hmm, pretty much goes hand in hand with what i've been saying. Additionally, it appears Bob (Amramm) was on point with the performance not feeling like what was printed on paper. And check out that resale value. My GOD!

[ArcticWhiteSE]

Originally Posted by SSGuy

Noone cares whore now go and drive off that cliff please.

Getting around to this 3 days late, but hear me out.


You didn't need to call her a whore.

As much as she deserves it, it's just not something that should be posted.

Random flaming is going to be treated as such. My first day as a mod, I'm giving you guys a pass. After that, the window is closed.

[99GApunk]

so they couldnt hear the rattles on the test drives? couldnt feel the lack of power on the test drives? didnt notice the power steering problem on the test drives?

they need to learn how to test drive

[GTLUVA]

I'm still loving my G6GTP put on 500 miles on it the last week and still is doing really good. I can't wait till Monday till I get the dull mirrors painted

[Vintalage]

Originally Posted by 99GApunk

so they couldnt hear the rattles on the test drives? couldnt feel the lack of power on the test drives? didnt notice the power steering problem on the test drives?

they need to learn how to test drive

Rattles and power steering problem are things that crop up. Most of the time, they are not evident when the car is brand new. It is when the car has been used that these things start to occur. I'm pretty sure he noticed the lack of power, but he wanted the car for practicality purposes. Well, the G6 didn't live up to it's initial quality score.

[99GApunk]

Originally Posted by Vintalage

Rattles and power steering problem are things that crop up. Most of the time, they are not evident when the car is brand new. It is when the car has been used that these things start to occur. I'm pretty sure he noticed the lack of power, but he wanted the car for practicality purposes. Well, the G6 didn't live up to it's initial quality score.

not in this case i guess.

well we can ask a bunch of members here in a while to see how theirs are doing

[GTPguy99]

Originally Posted by ArcticWhiteSE

Getting around to this 3 days late, but hear me out.


You didn't need to call her a whore.

As much as she deserves it, it's just not something that should be posted.

Random flaming is going to be treated as such. My first day as a mod, I'm giving you guys a pass. After that, the window is closed.

Just so you know I meant Whore as in Attention Whore. And now for the GTLUVA Smiley

[GTPguy99]

Originally Posted by GTLUVA

I'm still loving my G6GTP put on 500 miles on it the last week and still is doing really good. I can't wait till Monday till I get the dull mirrors painted

Ans still noone cares (Attention) Whore. Still can't find that cliff yet huh?