New Record @ Nationals! & Todd's car is broken - Page 5

SpyhunteR · 08-08-2006, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleroboy

talk is cheap..
Dont forget it took you a while even with your turbo on to get 12.anything times..
he did it his first time with that setup, low boost, with not much time on the tune.

I do believe it took a little more than 8psi to get your lighter engine manual transmission car to run 12's...

I didn't exactly have hptuners or dhp to help me out. Be aware of that....

Also be aware that my 12.9 was done hitting the governor before 1000ft mark.

Of course I'll be using more boost, i don't have the 'superior' 3.4l motor....

My talk is gold.

aleroboy · 08-08-2006, 10:03 PM

many things can be done with out a tune
Including getting past the speed limiter.
and where is the slip with your mph at the 1000'?
I'm still willing to bet you tip the scales at least 150-200lbs lighter than his car
not to mention how much having a manual trans helps...

Sprucegagt · 08-08-2006, 10:32 PM

Take it to PMs. This is your only warning.

jaketuff · 08-08-2006, 11:04 PM

Todd, time to build it up from the bottom end!!! I think Schweppe has a couple tips for ya???? Chime in Pat!!!!! ((I guess he prefers PMs))

JOUT

SpyhunteR · 08-09-2006, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleroboy

many things can be done with out a tune
Including getting past the speed limiter.
and where is the slip with your mph at the 1000'?
I'm still willing to bet you tip the scales at least 150-200lbs lighter than his car
not to mention how much having a manual trans helps...

I love you. You're right i couldv disconnected my vss, but i didn't. I didn't want to.

How many slips show mph at 1000ft? How many tracks do you go to that show mph?
Of course my manual is a great thing. It's not like i swapped it. I'm working with what i got. Still a 2.4l block and head, still oem tranny besides the clutch. Big whoop. You have a whole liter on me.

Ill give you that i am lighter. If you want to cry about my weight savings than start working w a liter less of displacement. God forbid someone do something different and make it work...

Don't worry ill thank you for helping me prove my point that you don't need an amazing 3.4 to go fast.

Besides I'm working w the inferior 2.4l not the beloved 2.3 quad or 2.2 eco that all the 4cyl guys are swinging on.

tejohnson · 08-09-2006, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaketuff

Todd, time to build it up from the bottom end!!! I think Schweppe has a couple tips for ya???? Chime in Pat!!!!! ((I guess he prefers PMs))

JOUT

Um, what else can I do to build up the bottom end?

SpyhunteR · 08-09-2006, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tejohnson

Um, what else can I do to build up the bottom end?

you could make it nuclear bombing proof?

Cryotreat?

Deepfry it? jk

SE'sarecool2 · 08-09-2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronGTR

I just think an engine that fresh that wasn't broken in yet really wouldn't like coolant in the oil.

I think you're onto something there Aaron; I just finished putting a Jasper engine in a 60K '99 GA at work that did something very similar. It came in with milkshake oil and a rod knock. After closer inspection, LIM & head gasket failure led to spun rod bearing.

jaketuff · 08-09-2006, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tejohnson

Um, what else can I do to build up the bottom end?

Wow I am lost on the build I guess.... THEN JUST GET HER DONE!!!!

OUT

tejohnson · 08-09-2006, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaketuff

Wow I am lost on the build I guess.... THEN JUST GET HER DONE!!!!

OUT

Just giving you a hard time. This time I'm thinking of doing a few things oiling wise. Have a few ideas.

cmtapanes · 08-10-2006, 11:02 AM

Hey Schwepe23 do you have pictures of your setup. Where did you get turbo from? What MOD do you have on your car?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schweppe23

Just got home from Pontiac Nationals @ Norwalk. For those who weren't there...the bar just got lowered. Here's the #s

R/T.....1.361
60'.....2.198
330....5.665
1/8.....8.436
MPH...91.05
1000..10.869
1/4.....12.940
MPH....108.23

So it seems that the 3.4>2.4.
Not bad for just getting the car together and running on Thursday. A couple small issues to work out but for the most part everything went well. Also seems like i have to relearn the way i launch this car as it is an entirely different animal than the Eaton S/C was.

As always I had a great time, special thanks to Tejohnson for his mad programming skills and Aarongtr.

Ajaxus · 08-10-2006, 12:05 PM

schweeeeeeeet

Schweppe23 · 08-10-2006, 02:43 PM

Thanks guys so far i'm really happy with the transition from sc to tc. Sorry I don't have any pics oF the setup currently, but maybe Todd or Mendoza do?

Jaketuff...Todd probably has one of the more comprehensive builds on the site, i know i learn more every chance i get to pick his brain.

Sucks to see that, Todd hopefully you'll have it all remedied in time for a fall dyno or track day.

tejohnson · 08-10-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Schweppe23

Sucks to see that, Todd hopefully you'll have it all remedied in time for a fall dyno or track day.

I knew there was somethin to that ticking. Just didn't become more pronounced till the drive home. No worries, i'll get to it in fairly short order.

SikMindz · 08-10-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Schweppe23

Jaketuff...Todd probably has one of the more comprehensive builds on the site, i know i learn more every chance i get to pick his brain.

Get a room!

SpyhunteR · 08-10-2006, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schweppe23

Thanks guys so far i'm really happy with the transition from sc to tc. Sorry I don't have any pics oF the setup currently, but maybe Todd or Mendoza do?

Jaketuff...Todd probably has one of the more comprehensive builds on the site, i know i learn more every chance i get to pick his brain.

Sucks to see that, Todd hopefully you'll have it all remedied in time for a fall dyno or track day.

Sold on the turbo, eh?

Glad you've joined the darkside.

We can use more people like you with a hairdryer.

tejohnson · 08-12-2006, 06:53 PM

For the curious.... Still have to remove the cam.

http://groomlakelabs.com/index.php?q...g2_itemId=2683

bszopi · 08-12-2006, 07:28 PM

Yeah, Todd did a pretty good job to the rod journals, especially #3,5 and 6.

Sprucegagt · 08-13-2006, 12:32 AM

Copper spray FTL!!! Sorry to see that Todd. How much of a cut do you have on the crank right now?

LukeD · 08-13-2006, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tejohnson

For the curious.... Still have to remove the cam.

http://groomlakelabs.com/index.php?q...g2_itemId=2683

man it seems like you have that motor out of the car and rebuilt every other day.

Props on a very nice setup though.

08-08-2006, 10:03 PM	#82
aleroboy 340+ hp Club Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado springs Age: 39 Posts: 1,854 Vehicle: 2001 Alero GLS coupe	many things can be done with out a tune Including getting past the speed limiter. and where is the slip with your mph at the 1000'? I'm still willing to bet you tip the scales at least 150-200lbs lighter than his car not to mention how much having a manual trans helps... __________________ really really slow right now.

08-08-2006, 10:32 PM	#83
Sprucegagt Schwartz Power! AKA: Andy Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ranson, WV Age: 46 Posts: 2,027 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	Take it to PMs. This is your only warning. __________________ 2000 Grand Am GT (some day it will be SC/T) Mods: alot

08-10-2006, 02:43 PM	#93
Schweppe23 GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 1,549 Vehicle: Pontiac	Thanks guys so far i'm really happy with the transition from sc to tc. Sorry I don't have any pics oF the setup currently, but maybe Todd or Mendoza do? Jaketuff...Todd probably has one of the more comprehensive builds on the site, i know i learn more every chance i get to pick his brain. Sucks to see that, Todd hopefully you'll have it all remedied in time for a fall dyno or track day. __________________ First 99+ GAGT to run 14s First E/M (only) GA to run 13s First turbo'D GAGT to run 12s 11's coming soon

08-12-2006, 06:53 PM	#97
tejohnson Just a hobby... AKA: Todd Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Parkersburg, WV && Philadelphia, PA Age: 45 Posts: 1,717 Vehicle: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500	For the curious.... Still have to remove the cam. http://groomlakelabs.com/index.php?q...g2_itemId=2683 __________________ Regards, Todd E. Johnson SpyhunteR's #1 fan. 99 Grand Am (13.4@108) - Recycled

08-13-2006, 12:32 AM	#99
Sprucegagt Schwartz Power! AKA: Andy Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ranson, WV Age: 46 Posts: 2,027 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	Copper spray FTL!!! Sorry to see that Todd. How much of a cut do you have on the crank right now? __________________ 2000 Grand Am GT (some day it will be SC/T) Mods: alot

08-08-2006, 11:04 PM	#84
jaketuff GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Westchester, NY Age: 43 Posts: 2,093 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT Coupe	Todd, time to build it up from the bottom end!!! I think Schweppe has a couple tips for ya???? Chime in Pat!!!!! ((I guess he prefers PMs)) JOUT

08-12-2006, 07:28 PM	#98
bszopi User account under probation AKA: Brad Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rogers, AR Age: 46 Posts: 1,391 Vehicle: 1989 Ford Mustang	Yeah, Todd did a pretty good job to the rod journals, especially #3,5 and 6.

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