TOG Headers Installed (Plus dyno results!) - Page 10

TA^Guy · 10-06-2002, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by aleroboy
Yea I was looking forwad to proving him wrong.
And now he won't even look at this topic.

John I'm glad you proved that closed minded arrogant p---k wrong. Oh, I'm sorry was that me being rude, you better believe it. Jeez I wonder why he doesn't want to read this thread. It would really suck to preach something so much only to be proved wrong. I guess he should stick to building chassis and leave the motor work to more open minded people.

All in all I'm glad to see your gains, it just brings more after market along with it. We'll be seeing quicker GAs from here on out. Really we had no where to go but up, right? My GA isn't my race car so you won't see me spending that much for headers. But I'm still glad to see they are out there and working for you.
If you don't mind I'm going to spread your results with some other that might be interested and include a link to your site. And no they won't be bugging you about having a link on their forum and asking for money due to it.

aleroboy · 10-06-2002, 10:03 PM

Thats fine! Spread the word! with all these new mods for the motor we need somthign for the transmission/ driveline side of things now.
I'm afraid to add more HP for shelling my tranny everywhere

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grass · 10-07-2002, 03:51 PM

k i read bits and pieces of this thread

1. grats jon on the gains

2. cars looking good
3. who did you prove wrong and wont look at this thread?

aleroboy · 10-07-2002, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by grass

3. who did you prove wrong and wont look at this thread?

Well I'd love to say names but I'm not going to rub it in.
Mainly soemone who said they would add no power and possibly cause losses because they would trip the knock sensor and cause ignition retard so bad the motor would nto gain.
But they did add hp and I'm getting up to like 40 degrees (can't remember exactly will test again if anyone really cares) of spark advance shown on my scan tool and no knock retard.

I think this is the first time a header thread could go on this long and not be locked. so thats the other reason for no names mentioned. I'd like to keep this one open.

Sorry_Officer · 10-07-2002, 04:13 PM

Mine work. Nuff said. My engine actually runs cooler with the headers

GTManiac · 10-07-2002, 04:25 PM

props to you both.

TA^Guy · 10-07-2002, 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by Sorry_Officer
Mine work. Nuff said. My engine actually runs cooler with the headers

I'm going to guess that you have a set of coated headers then correct?

aleroboy · 10-07-2002, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by TA^Guy

I'm going to guess that you have a set of coated headers then correct?

all TOG headers are coated

zoran316 · 10-07-2002, 10:24 PM

if I got the nickel coated ones would the headers not give as much performance gains???

aleroboy · 10-07-2002, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by zoran316
if I got the nickel coated ones would the headers not give as much performance gains???

Nickel is actually what I have and what was tested for 18 and 19 hp at the wheels.

Not sure what if any more hp the Ti-ceramic would add.
the nickel is also very effective at cutting heat. But will discolor a little bit.

zoran316 · 10-07-2002, 10:57 PM

oh great i think u just saved me $190 US hehe thanx

aleroboy · 10-07-2002, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by zoran316
oh great i think u just saved me $190 US hehe thanx

No problem. I couldnt see sepnding the extra for a different coating and the nickel works great. I'm totally happy with my choice!
John

daddy_ja · 10-08-2002, 02:00 PM

the the nickle plated ones are $700??? from you aleroboy??

aleroboy · 10-08-2002, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by daddy_ja
the the nickle plated ones are $700??? from you aleroboy??

Yes plus 25 for shipping.

daddy_ja · 10-09-2002, 01:12 AM

cool, i will be getting ahold of you in a few days!!!

TA^Guy · 10-10-2002, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by aleroboy
all TOG headers are coated

Sorry John I meant with a product like JetHot or another ceramic style coating to reduce heat.

aleroboy · 10-10-2002, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by TA^Guy

Sorry John I meant with a product like JetHot or another ceramic style coating to reduce heat.

yes they also offer titanium ceramic coating on theirs.
but in all honesty the nickel insulates very well too.
surface temp after driving for 3 hrs on my headers was around 240 degrees.

zoran316 · 10-10-2002, 02:47 PM

what is the difference between the 99 and 2001+ headers?

aleroboy · 10-10-2002, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by zoran316
what is the difference between the 99 and 2001+ headers?

Just the O2 extension harness. The headers are the same.

phantom505 · 02-19-2003, 04:38 PM

Just got mine installed. They sound real nice with the Borla. The guy I took it to just got rid of the flange between the resonator and the cat in order to widen to 2.5". It seems to work just fine. Pulls hard even at lower RPMs (so it seems, but maybe it is just the sound

)

The only bad part is now I have a weird metal on metal rattling (right about 2250 RPM) and my gas pedal vibrates a bit all the time. I guess a piece of heat sheild is to blame. Any suggestions?

10-07-2002, 04:13 PM	#185
Sorry_Officer Bouncy, Bouncy.... Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 633 Vehicle: 98' Civic CTR CX	Mine work. Nuff said. My engine actually runs cooler with the headers __________________ 1998 Honda Civic Cx (B16B) 1991 Acura Integra LS (B18a LS/Vtec) 2005 Harley Davidson Softail Duece

10-07-2002, 10:24 PM	#189
zoran316 GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 39 Posts: 85	if I got the nickel coated ones would the headers not give as much performance gains??? __________________ 1999 Grand AM GT - 3.4L V6 Black 4 Door Tinted/Blacked Out. Lots of mods, lots more to come. Visit http://www.n-body.net/registry/zoran316/

10-07-2002, 10:57 PM	#191
zoran316 GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 39 Posts: 85	oh great i think u just saved me $190 US hehe thanx __________________ 1999 Grand AM GT - 3.4L V6 Black 4 Door Tinted/Blacked Out. Lots of mods, lots more to come. Visit http://www.n-body.net/registry/zoran316/

10-08-2002, 02:00 PM	#193
daddy_ja got white?? Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: feeeeeenixxxx Age: 47 Posts: 45 Vehicle: 2KGAGT	the the nickle plated ones are $700??? from you aleroboy?? __________________ snowblind http://www.n-body.net/registry/daddyja/

10-09-2002, 01:12 AM	#195
daddy_ja got white?? Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: feeeeeenixxxx Age: 47 Posts: 45 Vehicle: 2KGAGT	cool, i will be getting ahold of you in a few days!!! __________________ snowblind http://www.n-body.net/registry/daddyja/

10-06-2002, 10:03 PM	#182
aleroboy 340+ hp Club Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado springs Age: 39 Posts: 1,854 Vehicle: 2001 Alero GLS coupe	Thats fine! Spread the word! with all these new mods for the motor we need somthign for the transmission/ driveline side of things now. I'm afraid to add more HP for shelling my tranny everywhere .

10-07-2002, 03:51 PM	#183
grass Smoke some grass Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Suburb of Monroe MI Age: 39 Posts: 642 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Sedan	k i read bits and pieces of this thread 1. grats jon on the gains 2. cars looking good 3. who did you prove wrong and wont look at this thread?

10-07-2002, 04:25 PM	#186
GTManiac GDC is here Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Age: 40 Posts: 439 Vehicle: Yo	props to you both.

10-10-2002, 02:47 PM	#198
zoran316 GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 39 Posts: 85	what is the difference between the 99 and 2001+ headers? __________________ 1999 Grand AM GT - 3.4L V6 Black 4 Door Tinted/Blacked Out. Lots of mods, lots more to come. Visit http://www.n-body.net/registry/zoran316/

02-19-2003, 04:38 PM	#200
phantom505 GAGTurbo Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Heltonville, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,576 Vehicle: '02 GAGT	Just got mine installed. They sound real nice with the Borla. The guy I took it to just got rid of the flange between the resonator and the cat in order to widen to 2.5". It seems to work just fine. Pulls hard even at lower RPMs (so it seems, but maybe it is just the sound ) The only bad part is now I have a weird metal on metal rattling (right about 2250 RPM) and my gas pedal vibrates a bit all the time. I guess a piece of heat sheild is to blame. Any suggestions? Last edited by phantom505; 02-19-2003 at 04:41 PM.