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Old 09-11-2002, 08:54 AM   #141
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Can these headers be used with my Randomtech hi-flow cat/downpipe.

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Old 09-11-2002, 09:02 AM   #142
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Can these headers be used with my Randomtech hi-flow cat/downpipe.

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Nope. I will probably cut mine and weld up the RT cat to TOG's downpipe (it actually terminates in a flexpipe); I want to keep the RT cat since it comes with the secondary O2 bung, and the flange bolted right up to my Borla....if I bought a new cat, I'd need to source a new flange to bolt up to the cat-back as well as getting a rear )2 sensor fitting....too much of a headache.
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Old 09-11-2002, 09:33 AM   #143
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Edit: Dyno and Times are a different story tho. Although this MAY provide 18whp, this might only make .1-.3tenths off at the track.

Cant wait to see the track results.
Well the Tb and CAI added 6hp and 8 ft lbs and gained 4 tenths at the track because the power was added all accross like the headers do. but since torque is maintaned longer with the headers, track times could be more impressive than the dyno sheet.

If the track is open this sunday I'll be there and I'll do runs with and with out nitrous.

I'll try to get a before time slip and then slips of this sunday.
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Old 09-11-2002, 09:45 AM   #144
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Well the Tb and CAI added 6hp and 8 ft lbs and gained 4 tenths at the track because the power was added all accross like the headers do. but since torque is maintaned longer with the headers, track times could be more impressive than the dyno sheet.

If the track is open this sunday I'll be there and I'll do runs with and with out nitrous.

I'll try to get a before time slip and then slips of this sunday.

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Old 09-11-2002, 12:50 PM   #145
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Hey AleroBoy, awesome results. I'm in the Springs, could I stop by and check your ride out sometime? What kind of times are you pulling here? Do you go to Bandimere or PMI? I've run a best of 16.5 @ 83mph at PMI, pretty weak, but enough to spoil a few Civic owners pride Anyhow, nice job. I'm heading to Bandimere today for test and tune, you should head up there if you can, starts at 4:30. Pray for no rain
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Old 09-11-2002, 12:51 PM   #146
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By the way, is PMI still doing Friday night drags?
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Old 09-11-2002, 02:24 PM   #147
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My best was 16.4 with bad traction at PMI. I'd go to Bandi but I have to get a bunch of intakes out. I'll be out htis weekend if you want to meet up.
I'm always arround. Just drop me a line.

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Old 09-11-2002, 02:39 PM   #148
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Old 09-11-2002, 06:18 PM   #149
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Those are some pretty impressive numbers...
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Old 09-12-2002, 07:33 PM   #150
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So hey were those dyno numbers with just the TOG headers or were there other mods on that car?
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Old 09-13-2002, 06:11 AM   #151
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So hey were those dyno numbers with just the TOG headers or were there other mods on that car?
He has other modifications done to his car, so headers alone won't yield 175HP at the wheels, but he did compare two runs (showing a 18HP difference), with the only change between runs being the addition of headers.
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Old 09-13-2002, 09:40 AM   #152
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with the only change between runs being the addition of headers.
and a high flow cat
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Old 09-13-2002, 11:02 AM   #153
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Actually it wasn't but the cat was tracked before the runs and yelded no difference in times. the biggest gain form the RT cat is form the larger down pipe. Also TOG said some of the biggest gains form their headers were with stock cats so mine very well could be hurting performance. but I doubt it.
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Old 09-13-2002, 11:33 AM   #154
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Do the headers hook right up to the stock cat pipe
or is cutting and welding involved?
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Old 09-13-2002, 12:04 PM   #155
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Cutting and welding is involved. You cut rignt in fron of the stock cat and weld up the new flex pipe.
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Old 09-16-2002, 02:31 PM   #156
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I just read 11 pages and my congrats go out to aleroboy, it seems nobody is "talking" now that the numbers back up his inital responce....good job bro
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Old 09-16-2002, 02:56 PM   #157
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Im not talking cause its pointless. We dont have anything else to compare his results too, nor a stock vehicle tested to see what the gains are there. No point in beating a dead horse right.
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:21 PM   #158
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Im not talking cause its pointless. We dont have anything else to compare his results too, nor a stock vehicle tested to see what the gains are there. No point in beating a dead horse right.
A stock vehicle was tested by magnacharger but they won't release the dyno run.
It also gained 18hp but more torque than me. But the rest of my exhaust could cause that. I dunno.
True though it is pretty much a dead horse. The headers do add power. But if what you say is true about the design I'm curious to see what a set built the way you say would do. If they were equal length and shaped to the head how much more do you think would be gained if I got 19 from somthing like this?

kinda makes me wonder.
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:21 PM   #159
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can't Believe that this thread is 32 pages long but i'm adding to that Looking at the pics you won't beable to use a supercharger or Turbo with the headers
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:47 PM   #160
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Well I dont know if anyone will ever build a set of equal length heads cause its not gonna be me. If I had a 3400 I would do it, but I have the DOHC. I know of one person who might do it but its a wait and see deal. 18 hp is nice already so really the cost is the only issue I see for TOG right now. Your automatic is likely in the way for equal length as well cause the rear head will require 3 pipes running down and back for a while before the collector.
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