Power Steering (Official Thread) - Page 4

99whitegagt · 03-06-2003, 07:17 PM

not sure how much, got mine done under warrenty. but it woulda cost me 850, but i got the p.s pump, the water pump and the front left tie-rod replaced. but anyways, cant help ya with the proce

Avsguy01 · 03-07-2003, 07:24 AM

Nah, its a clunk

03-07-2003, 08:19 AM

Possible that it's your rack and pinion (sp?) Had the problem , fixed it, now it's back. Just something ya gotta live with I guess.

SteveGT1 · 03-07-2003, 08:36 AM

I have the same problem with my GA. I bought the car used and the dealer told me it was normal. I believed them until a member of this board told me he had his problem fixed under warrenty. Click on the URL for a scan of the dealer invoice

http://www3.nf.sympatico.ca/steveh/gear.jpg

Your car should be still under warrenty, if they fix the problem let us know. Good luck

Avsguy01 · 03-07-2003, 08:39 AM

Well i just found out last night that i think my power steering cap seal is not very good. Its leaking the fluid out the top ever so slightly. Its going in the shop next week to get looked at. I wonder if its low on power steering fluid, maybe thats why its clunking.

Ill see
Michael

SteveGT1 · 03-07-2003, 01:47 PM

The PS on alot of GA's spill slightly out of the gap, I have also been told that this is normal in some conditions.

dhdz · 03-07-2003, 03:07 PM

Yeah, I have a 01 also hear the click sound. I was going to take it to the dealer but now i heard its normal, i'll save my time in going.

Licit · 03-08-2003, 03:44 AM

I was quoted at somewhere around $200.00 for a power steering pump replacement. BUT that wasn't a GM dealership and they wanted to use a lifetime warranty pump that runs like $140 or so. I searched online and found power steering pumps for around $70 - $75. I guess it depends on whether you have a place like I do where you can walk in with the part and just get charged labor or not. I have a buddy who says we could do it ourselves but you have to remove the serpentine belt to remove the old pump(not alot of fun from what he said). The Haynes maual does give a stepped description though.

grandam-wpg · 03-08-2003, 07:29 AM

Yeah that was my invoice. I started hearing a clunk eveery time I turned the wheel. So I called the dealer and got the car in asap and they replaced the "Stearing Gear" and its been perfect ever since.

03-08-2003, 06:39 PM

Removing the serp belt is super easy. Just use a rachet and stick it in the square hole in the tensioner. Then push towards the rear of the car. That will loosen the tension so you can get it off. If you have a hollow metal pole to slip over the rachet for leverage it makes it so unbelievably easy that a kid could do it. Note this will get it off the pulleys so you can do your work. To remove the whole belt to replace it, you have to unmount your engine. Also real easy, but you won't have to do it in this case.

Mike Jung · 03-09-2003, 12:56 PM

My car makes a noise (kinda of like a grinding/whirling sound) around the accessory rubber drive belt area (maybe near the power steering area), when it is cold started & the temps outside are cold but is gone when I finish driving (when the engine is warmed-up).
(When I use the block heater on timer overnight the noise is not there/minimized compared to when not plugging it in)
So I was just out checking my power steering fluid level. It ok, at the correct cold level mark.
The fluid is kind of thick

(it is kinda of cold outside right now)

I'm just wondering:
When it is extremely cold outside & you cold start the car, is the power steering pump starved for fluid...could that be the noise I hear?
If so, I guess it would be good idea to 'warm-up' the car for a few minutes before driving -> to save the power steering pump's life a little.

Tomorrow morning it is suppose to be like -20C/-4F

(I know that is warm for you guys out in the praires Canada, but that is cold enough for me here.)

koolZ71 · 03-09-2003, 09:16 PM

i think im correct when i say this but when any oil is cold it gets thicker...hence causing it to whine...and the warmer it gets the more fluid it becomes...thats y it becomes less noticable when ur car is all warmed up

03-15-2003, 10:41 PM

Today was beautiful, so I took the time to rip the cone filter off my APOC setup and clean it. Unscrewed the left fender liner at the bottom, pulled the driver side light out, and took the shroud off the car. When I put everything back on and started the car, the hood was still up, and I happened to turn the wheel. When I did, the power steering would make a loud sucking sound as soon as it started to move, and then quiet down the rest of the time, then when I'd start to move the wheel again, it'd gasp, and then be quiet. It was REALLY loud too. It was coming from the power steering fluid area, somewhere around the tank. The system seems to be working, but why is it gasping? It sounds like a 90 year old with a pack a day habit trying to run a mile. Any thoughts?

Panacea · 03-16-2003, 12:06 AM

Is the cap on, or screwed down all the way? It almost sounds like it's sucking in air, but I'm no expert when it comes to this so I may be wrong. I'd check to make sure you have the cap on all the way and make sure it has a proper seal.

03-16-2003, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Panacea
Is the cap on, or screwed down all the way? It almost sounds like it's sucking in air, but I'm no expert when it comes to this so I may be wrong. I'd check to make sure you have the cap on all the way and make sure it has a proper seal.

I did. There was a hiss when I loosened the cap, so the seal was tight. The fluid level was fine. I watched that area when I turned the wheel (peering between the gap from the open hood) and saw the hose coming out of the power steering jump and hop around when I would turn the wheel. Dunno if that's normal. No leaks or anything that I could find. Cap was on tight. It's really weird.

03-17-2003, 06:54 AM

I changed the oil on my 3.4 V6, 01GAGT. I noticed that the power steering fluid was leaking from the reservoir and down below on the wheel. It has been overflowing since I got it, but could my pump be going on me? The car steers fine, and does not make any noises when turning.

Just wondering if I should bring it in before warranty expires.

Thanks all.

03-17-2003, 07:05 AM

DEFINITELY take it in. Your reservoir should not be leaking, overflowing, empty, etc. If it's dripping now and it's still under warranty, take it in ASAP. If you don't, the problem will eventually get worse. Leaks are bad in any system of your car, eventually it will cost you money. Let GM foot the bill now than you paying for it in a year or so. If it would happen to be the rack or pump I would imagine they are not cheap. The rack for the GP's is over $1,200 until you get it removed and replaced. Good luck.

Rba007 · 03-26-2003, 11:50 AM

Hey everyone,

Im getting a pronounced groan when I turn my car left. No noise whatsoever under right turns. My first thought was power steering, which It sounds like, but then why would the noise only be heard under left turns? Thanks for any suggestions/tips/experiences.

-Dave

Mike Jung · 03-26-2003, 03:02 PM

Hopefully it isn't like my friend's '98 Sunfire GT that was recalled in the news...which the dealer doesn't know what to do about it yet.

It makes a funny noise sometimes during left turns

BUT NON of the GA's were in the recall.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/recal...p?recno=10411&

http://www.autonews.com/news.cms?newsId=3922

Maybe, check the power steering fluid level.

Rba007 · 03-26-2003, 10:31 PM

Have, and its fine. Im just not too lucky i guess...

03-06-2003, 07:17 PM	#61
99whitegagt Love My Baby Gurl Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oak Lawn, IL Age: 36 Posts: 118 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Coupe	not sure how much, got mine done under warrenty. but it woulda cost me 850, but i got the p.s pump, the water pump and the front left tie-rod replaced. but anyways, cant help ya with the proce __________________ http://www.n-body.net/registry/99whitegagt/

03-07-2003, 08:36 AM	#64
SteveGT1 GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 190 Vehicle: 2001 GAGT Coupe	Clunk in steering I have the same problem with my GA. I bought the car used and the dealer told me it was normal. I believed them until a member of this board told me he had his problem fixed under warrenty. Click on the URL for a scan of the dealer invoice http://www3.nf.sympatico.ca/steveh/gear.jpg Your car should be still under warrenty, if they fix the problem let us know. Good luck __________________ http://www.n-body.net/registry/stevegt1/

03-07-2003, 01:47 PM	#66
SteveGT1 GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 190 Vehicle: 2001 GAGT Coupe	The PS on alot of GA's spill slightly out of the gap, I have also been told that this is normal in some conditions. __________________ http://www.n-body.net/registry/stevegt1/

03-07-2003, 03:07 PM	#67
dhdz NV-R Performance AKA: David Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Laredo Texas Age: 41 Posts: 105 Vehicle: 01 GAGT1 & 08 CTS	Yeah, I have a 01 also hear the click sound. I was going to take it to the dealer but now i heard its normal, i'll save my time in going. __________________ [size=3] [color=RoyalBlue]2001 Grand Am GT1 2008 Lexus IS 250 2008 Cadillac CTS

03-08-2003, 03:44 AM	#68
Licit GAGT - Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 46 Posts: 347 Vehicle: 2004 GTO	power steering replace I was quoted at somewhere around $200.00 for a power steering pump replacement. BUT that wasn't a GM dealership and they wanted to use a lifetime warranty pump that runs like $140 or so. I searched online and found power steering pumps for around $70 - $75. I guess it depends on whether you have a place like I do where you can walk in with the part and just get charged labor or not. I have a buddy who says we could do it ourselves but you have to remove the serpentine belt to remove the old pump(not alot of fun from what he said). The Haynes maual does give a stepped description though.

03-07-2003, 07:24 AM	#62
Avsguy01 Roll'n down the road Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clayton, De Age: 39 Posts: 717 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coup	Nah, its a clunk

03-07-2003, 08:19 AM	#63
Macleod52 Guest Posts: n/a	Possible that it's your rack and pinion (sp?) Had the problem , fixed it, now it's back. Just something ya gotta live with I guess.

03-07-2003, 08:39 AM	#65
Avsguy01 Roll'n down the road Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clayton, De Age: 39 Posts: 717 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coup	Well i just found out last night that i think my power steering cap seal is not very good. Its leaking the fluid out the top ever so slightly. Its going in the shop next week to get looked at. I wonder if its low on power steering fluid, maybe thats why its clunking. Ill see Michael

03-08-2003, 07:29 AM	#69
grandam-wpg GAGT - Member AKA: Chuck Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Age: 42 Posts: 51 Vehicle: 06 Civic	Yeah that was my invoice. I started hearing a clunk eveery time I turned the wheel. So I called the dealer and got the car in asap and they replaced the "Stearing Gear" and its been perfect ever since.

03-08-2003, 06:39 PM	#70
Filter Guest Posts: n/a	Removing the serp belt is super easy. Just use a rachet and stick it in the square hole in the tensioner. Then push towards the rear of the car. That will loosen the tension so you can get it off. If you have a hollow metal pole to slip over the rachet for leverage it makes it so unbelievably easy that a kid could do it. Note this will get it off the pulleys so you can do your work. To remove the whole belt to replace it, you have to unmount your engine. Also real easy, but you won't have to do it in this case.

03-09-2003, 12:56 PM	#71
Mike Jung 400 hp & 410 lb-ft AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,671 Vehicle: '14 Camaro SS RS coupe	Power Steering Fluid My car makes a noise (kinda of like a grinding/whirling sound) around the accessory rubber drive belt area (maybe near the power steering area), when it is cold started & the temps outside are cold but is gone when I finish driving (when the engine is warmed-up). (When I use the block heater on timer overnight the noise is not there/minimized compared to when not plugging it in) So I was just out checking my power steering fluid level. It ok, at the correct cold level mark. The fluid is kind of thick (it is kinda of cold outside right now) I'm just wondering: When it is extremely cold outside & you cold start the car, is the power steering pump starved for fluid...could that be the noise I hear? If so, I guess it would be good idea to 'warm-up' the car for a few minutes before driving -> to save the power steering pump's life a little. Tomorrow morning it is suppose to be like -20C/-4F (I know that is warm for you guys out in the praires Canada, but that is cold enough for me here.) Last edited by Mike Jung; 03-09-2003 at 04:58 PM.

03-09-2003, 09:16 PM	#72
koolZ71 walkin' tall AKA: nathan Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: laura, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 1,522 Vehicle: 04 colorado<>93 SHO	i think im correct when i say this but when any oil is cold it gets thicker...hence causing it to whine...and the warmer it gets the more fluid it becomes...thats y it becomes less noticable when ur car is all warmed up __________________ JACOB HECK 7-03-82---07-29-01 I will miss u baby brother formaly koolgt

03-15-2003, 10:41 PM	#73
SilverGA2001 Guest Posts: n/a	Gasping Power Steering Today was beautiful, so I took the time to rip the cone filter off my APOC setup and clean it. Unscrewed the left fender liner at the bottom, pulled the driver side light out, and took the shroud off the car. When I put everything back on and started the car, the hood was still up, and I happened to turn the wheel. When I did, the power steering would make a loud sucking sound as soon as it started to move, and then quiet down the rest of the time, then when I'd start to move the wheel again, it'd gasp, and then be quiet. It was REALLY loud too. It was coming from the power steering fluid area, somewhere around the tank. The system seems to be working, but why is it gasping? It sounds like a 90 year old with a pack a day habit trying to run a mile. Any thoughts?

03-16-2003, 12:06 AM	#74
Panacea Mmmm Donuts. AKA: Macleod52 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rock Island, IL Age: 40 Posts: 3,160 Vehicle: '09 Malibu LTZ	Is the cap on, or screwed down all the way? It almost sounds like it's sucking in air, but I'm no expert when it comes to this so I may be wrong. I'd check to make sure you have the cap on all the way and make sure it has a proper seal.

03-17-2003, 06:54 AM	#76
01GAGTNY Guest Posts: n/a	Power steering Pump I changed the oil on my 3.4 V6, 01GAGT. I noticed that the power steering fluid was leaking from the reservoir and down below on the wheel. It has been overflowing since I got it, but could my pump be going on me? The car steers fine, and does not make any noises when turning. Just wondering if I should bring it in before warranty expires. Thanks all.

03-17-2003, 07:05 AM	#77
Dan00GPGT Guest Posts: n/a	DEFINITELY take it in. Your reservoir should not be leaking, overflowing, empty, etc. If it's dripping now and it's still under warranty, take it in ASAP. If you don't, the problem will eventually get worse. Leaks are bad in any system of your car, eventually it will cost you money. Let GM foot the bill now than you paying for it in a year or so. If it would happen to be the rack or pump I would imagine they are not cheap. The rack for the GP's is over $1,200 until you get it removed and replaced. Good luck.

03-26-2003, 11:50 AM	#78
Rba007 GAGT Oldie AKA: Dave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: N. Muskegon MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,444 Vehicle: 04 Grand Prix GT	Groaning Under Hard Left Turns Hey everyone, Im getting a pronounced groan when I turn my car left. No noise whatsoever under right turns. My first thought was power steering, which It sounds like, but then why would the noise only be heard under left turns? Thanks for any suggestions/tips/experiences. -Dave __________________ Dave's Sexy Ride "Sul3LiME883: i'm drunk tho. i'd throw myself at a penis right now, i bet." "When you step over the line, your nuts are mine" "ArcticSun GT: u do smell dave, smell like awesomeness"

03-26-2003, 03:02 PM	#79
Mike Jung 400 hp & 410 lb-ft AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,671 Vehicle: '14 Camaro SS RS coupe	Hopefully it isn't like my friend's '98 Sunfire GT that was recalled in the news...which the dealer doesn't know what to do about it yet. It makes a funny noise sometimes during left turns BUT NON of the GA's were in the recall. http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/recal...p?recno=10411& http://www.autonews.com/news.cms?newsId=3922 Maybe, check the power steering fluid level. Last edited by Mike Jung; 03-26-2003 at 03:05 PM.

03-26-2003, 10:31 PM	#80
Rba007 GAGT Oldie AKA: Dave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: N. Muskegon MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,444 Vehicle: 04 Grand Prix GT	Have, and its fine. Im just not too lucky i guess... __________________ Dave's Sexy Ride "Sul3LiME883: i'm drunk tho. i'd throw myself at a penis right now, i bet." "When you step over the line, your nuts are mine" "ArcticSun GT: u do smell dave, smell like awesomeness"