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Old 12-20-2013, 01:59 PM   #5341
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did someone say outback convention at the liquor store. the other two weren't there when i went in..




and 5 minutes later at the car wash

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Old 12-20-2013, 02:11 PM   #5342
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My neighbor just sold his white 1986 Fiero GT that's only had 42k on it.

He sold it for only $4,500

Here is the car he sold last week.

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4230748758.html
Holy crap! I wish I could find a deal like that. My first car ever was a 1987 Fiero GT so I would really like one again. My brother owns it now but it needs a lot of work.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:25 PM   #5343
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Here she is. My first car. It's hard to believe that it was only 10 years old when I bought it. My GA is already almost 14. Unfortunately this is the only pic I can find of her. (before smart phones and digital cameras)



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Old 12-20-2013, 02:29 PM   #5344
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beside the bra i like it
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Old 12-20-2013, 03:09 PM   #5345
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No better paint protection protection than a solid layer of ice over the entire car!

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Old 12-20-2013, 04:35 PM   #5346
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jeez that must be hard to drive on if you dont have abs.
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Old 12-20-2013, 04:48 PM   #5347
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jeez that must be hard to drive on if you dont have abs.
Fixed that for you, abs trac control that wont do squat for you in some of that freezing rain.

Oh and thanks TDavis, thats why I continued to stagger the first time it was because I needed tires "yesterday" and the only thing I could get was a staggered set up from someone that was putting on new tires.
But after putting on the beefier sway bars I put the 255's up front to see if they would rub, they did not so I am going to get 2 more 255's and run all 255.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:48 PM   #5348
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So im not really missing out on anything beneficial?
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Old 12-20-2013, 06:11 PM   #5349
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So im not really missing out on anything beneficial?
On the grand am, no. ABS and Trac control are poorly implemented very basic systems.

My 92 SVX has a better system (barely) one thing it does better is ( I believe) true 4 channel abs, the grand am is (I believe) only 3 channel, right front/left front, and one Rear.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:16 PM   #5350
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Ice driving is best done like this:

Don't unless absolutely necessary.

But if you're out, SMOOTH. Easy on, easy off, don't jump in and out of the peddle, ease into starts, and ease off the gas (early, early, early before you need to stop) and ease on that brake peddle like it's an egg you can't smash.

easy does it, and makes it somewhat easy to drive on, if you're a peddle smasher, you'll be an ice crasher
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:42 PM   #5351
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just a quick little idle vid after the headers. video doesnt really do this noise any justice though

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Old 12-20-2013, 10:40 PM   #5352
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just a quick little idle vid after the headers. video doesnt really do this noise any justice though

Wtf no quad tips?
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:10 AM   #5353
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:50 AM   #5354
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I like dual tips, quads dont look quite right to me.

So what happened with the genesis? Or am I thinking of the wrong person?
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Old 12-21-2013, 05:52 AM   #5355
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I like dual tips, quads dont look quite right to me.

So what happened with the genesis? Or am I thinking of the wrong person?
he modded the hell out of the genesis, and as soon as it gave him problems with the trans iirc, demodded and trade in.

can't blame him though. who doesn't want a vette? and who actually can afford a vette before they turn 25?
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Old 12-21-2013, 06:24 AM   #5356
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he modded the hell out of the genesis, and as soon as it gave him problems with the trans iirc, demodded and trade in.

can't blame him though. who doesn't want a vette? and who actually can afford a vette before they turn 25?
Yes no doubt.
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Old 12-21-2013, 07:58 AM   #5357
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Quad tips look 100x better on the vette... duals just don't look right in that small space and that far apart.
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:05 AM   #5358
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So on in a yet-to-be-announced area on CL, found a set of 4 AT Italias wrapped with Perelli P Zeros... $450 and said he'd ship / meet, I'm waiting to hear back with some more info. but I'm always nervous about buying discontinued rims, the Italias are by far my favorite look for the GA, but let me get your opinions on repairability should they get damaged (dents, curb rash, chips), ect.) outside of cracking if half, are repairs like this possible?
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:34 AM   #5359
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On the grand am, no. ABS and Trac control are poorly implemented very basic systems.

My 92 SVX has a better system (barely) one thing it does better is ( I believe) true 4 channel abs, the grand am is (I believe) only 3 channel, right front/left front, and one Rear.

Nope, it's 2 channel ABS, Front/rear. There are only two abs solenoids on the module. I highly doubt your svx has 4 channel though. They didn't have that around even in '92.

Anyway, there is nothing wrong with the ABS or traction control on the grand am. Are they as good as more modern systems? No. They are still better than most drivers though. The real limiting factor in freezing rain is tires. You need winter tires and even then traction will be limited, but better than with all seasons. In those kind of ice conditions though, NO abs or traction/stability control system will help, no matter how advanced they are. It all comes down to tires.
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:37 AM   #5360
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Quad tips look 100x better on the vette... duals just don't look right in that small space and that far apart.

I agree. He didn't buy a real exhaust though. He modded the stock cat-back by cutting off the mufflers and welding on a straight pipe. Also cut the cats off. Definitely not a good way to do it IMO, but it's his car.
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