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[2000 GT Coupe]

Originally Posted by sleepyalero

That vid of mfuller your talking about he has milzy headers.. don't know what downpipe... and its with bola exhaust. Tog/s&s headers do not clear 6 speed shift linkage.

As for downpipe... I have milzy no cat downpipe. It's very nice.

How long is the no cat downpipe?

[stewartfn18]

Originally Posted by sleepyalero

Wtf no quad tips?

dont like quad tips, just personal taste. also had dual on the ga too, and an angled single exit on my genesis... thats my taste

Originally Posted by 2000 GT Coupe

I like dual tips, quads dont look quite right to me.

So what happened with the genesis? Or am I thinking of the wrong person?

trans kept locking me out of gears and instead of fighting with the dealer to get it replaced i demodded.

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

I agree. He didn't buy a real exhaust though. He modded the stock cat-back by cutting off the mufflers and welding on a straight pipe. Also cut the cats off. Definitely not a good way to do it IMO, but it's his car.

so we're clear, my axle back is borla. pretty sure borla is a "real" exhaust company and the cats had to be cut out regardless because of where the collector on the headers ended, just like my 160* t stat wont let the coolant get up to proper temp and my oil wont get hot enough either. hey just fyi, i observed my coolant temp at 185 and oil temp at 200. the BLASPHAMY! are my stock digital readouts inaccurate now?

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

This.

But hey, that's what happens when you take a cat out and get a crappy exhaust. I'm not even happy with my exhaust right now and I've got the SLP. I think the muffler packing is starting to deteriorate. It's plenty loud, but has too much rattle. Doesn't sound refined at all. I want to change the muffler and tips.

i thought you were all about gm did this, that and the other for reason kind of guy, no? all i did was take the mufflers off. eliminated unneeded bends... big whoop, no cats. you swear like that wouldve affected the sound THAT MUCH. crappy exhaust, 50 percent of it is still factory piping... are my long tubes crappy to because its not factory? . you may know about some things, but you are far from a god in the car world. you dont know everything, stop trying to act like you do. sry man, had to be said. again i refer to my coolant and oil temp comment as a reference

Originally Posted by MAC the KNIFE

We ARE talking about David here . he's not about to let my fat slow sedan be louder than his vette. i looked under his c5 and other than the axlebacks and headers, there weren't any curves or bends in the stock pipes. so i didn't see the point in buying brand new whole exhaust system either. any aftermarket setup would have the same bends anyways.

also, he does take his to the strip, so there was a performance motivation, not just noise motivation. i'm the only idiot here that runs straight pipes just for the sake of noise.

thank you!

[stewartfn18]

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Nope, it's 2 channel ABS, Front/rear. There are only two abs solenoids on the module. I highly doubt your svx has 4 channel though. They didn't have that around even in '92.

Anyway, there is nothing wrong with the ABS or traction control on the grand am. Are they as good as more modern systems? No. They are still better than most drivers though. The real limiting factor in freezing rain is tires. You need winter tires and even then traction will be limited, but better than with all seasons. In those kind of ice conditions though, NO abs or traction/stability control system will help, no matter how advanced they are. It all comes down to tires.

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

I agree. He didn't buy a real exhaust though. He modded the stock cat-back by cutting off the mufflers and welding on a straight pipe. Also cut the cats off. Definitely not a good way to do it IMO, but it's his car.

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

This.

But hey, that's what happens when you take a cat out and get a crappy exhaust. I'm not even happy with my exhaust right now and I've got the SLP. I think the muffler packing is starting to deteriorate. It's plenty loud, but has too much rattle. Doesn't sound refined at all. I want to change the muffler and tips.

[GrandAmMe]

A better pic of the new whip

[TDavis]

Clean those wheels jesus

[tw0123]

nice find man... the joys of working at a dealer eh?

[tipnitty]

Originally Posted by TDavis

Clean those wheels jesus

Yeah, get out in the sleet and snow and clean them off so then can be dirty again in an hour

[TDavis]

Originally Posted by tipnitty

Yeah, get out in the sleet and snow and clean them off so then can be dirty again in an hour

Originally Posted by TDavis

Clean those wheels jesus

Hush and get your corvette wheels hoe

[GrandAmMe]

Originally Posted by TDavis

Clean those wheels jesus

Previous owner never cleaned them...ever. That **** is caked on there. I am not about to scrub them in -10 degree weather thank you very much

Originally Posted by tw0123

nice find man... the joys of working at a dealer eh?

Haha I actually found this one on kijiji for $640. Blown engine and needed a few suspension parts. I have about 3k into it so far.

[tipnitty]

Originally Posted by TDavis

Hush and get your corvette wheels hoe

I'm waiting until I move in January. So I don't have to move them with me

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by stewartfn18

so we're clear, my axle back is borla. pretty sure borla is a "real" exhaust company and the cats had to be cut out regardless because of where the collector on the headers ended

That's funny. That isn't what you told me on facebook. You said you didn't buy a cat-back and that you just modded the stock exhaust. So what's the face you make when you are liar? So basically you are going the cheap route and doing crappy low quality mods because you don't have the money to do it right and can't just leave it stock? Ok, gotcha.

just like my 160* t stat wont let the coolant get up to proper temp and my oil wont get hot enough either. hey just fyi, i observed my coolant temp at 185 and oil temp at 200. the BLASPHAMY! are my stock digital readouts inaccurate now?

Like I said before, putting a colder t-stat in is pointless because your coolant will only get as cold as the capacity of your radiator. If it's not cold outside and your radiator is stock, it's going to run hotter than your t-stat temp DUH! That's why it's a waste of fk'ing money! Wait until you get a 30 degree day out though, then see how high your coolant and oil temps get and how long it takes the car to warm up. Like I told you before, if there was some kind of magic Focking secret to HP that putting in a colder t-stat gives ...

GM WOULD HAVE PUT ONE IN FROM THE FACTORY!!!

i thought you were all about gm did this, that and the other for reason kind of guy, no? all i did was take the mufflers off. eliminated unneeded bends... big whoop, no cats. you swear like that wouldve affected the sound THAT MUCH. crappy exhaust, 50 percent of it is still factory piping... are my long tubes crappy to because its not factory? . you may know about some things, but you are far from a god in the car world. you dont know everything, stop trying to act like you do. sry man, had to be said. again i refer to my coolant and oil temp comment as a reference


thank you!

Listen to young buck get all uppity now, like his sh!t don't stink and he knows what he's talking about, yet he doesn't even understand the basics of how a cooling system works. Also doesn't understand there is no reason to eliminate cats from a daily driver for some off brand sh!tty headers to fit. But hey man, you brought this on yourself. You forget I've done a lot of research into these topics, I've tried a lot of things, and I've been modding cars since you were about 10 years old. But hey what do I know. You just dumped your grand am to buy a Hyundai that you swore you were gonna keep stock, then proceeded to mod until it went to sh!t (against my advice btw), now you are doing the same thing. Have fun blowing up your perfectly good corvette.

[stewartfn18]

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

That's funny. That isn't what you told me on facebook. You said you didn't buy a cat-back and that you just modded the stock exhaust. So what's the face you make when you are liar? So basically you are going the cheap route and doing crappy low quality mods because you don't have the money to do it right and can't just leave it stock? Ok, gotcha.

this comment? youre the moron that assumed that no mufflers meant custom hack job.. i've got money sir, you dont need to worry about that. im not the one thats in my 30's living at home and without a job to go to school full time. bitch please, i had 2 fvcking jobs and went to school full time.

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Like I said before, putting a colder t-stat in is pointless because your coolant will only get as cold as the capacity of your radiator. If it's not cold outside and your radiator is stock, it's going to run hotter than your t-stat temp DUH! That's why it's a waste of fk'ing money! Wait until you get a 30 degree day out though, then see how high your coolant and oil temps get and how long it takes the car to warm up. Like I told you before, if there was some kind of magic Focking secret to HP that putting in a colder t-stat gives ...

GM WOULD HAVE PUT ONE IN FROM THE FACTORY!!!

please read how thermostats work, just because it starts to open at 160 doenst mean the car is going to run at 160, no matter when your fans come on and what kind of radiator you have. youre not telling me anything i dont know already. the point of the fvcking t stat was so that it wouldnt fvcking run at 215-230. doesnt really ever get to 30* here, so that point is moot. how quickly you forget. old age is a b1tch aint it...did it ever cross your mind that they put in the t stat that they did for emissions reasons? not because it makes the most power?

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Listen to young buck get all uppity now, like his sh!t don't stink and he knows what he's talking about, yet he doesn't even understand the basics of how a cooling system works. Also doesn't understand there is no reason to eliminate cats from a daily driver for some off brand sh!tty headers to fit. But hey man, you brought this on yourself. You forget I've done a lot of research into these topics, I've tried a lot of things, and I've been modding cars since you were about 10 years old. But hey what do I know. You just dumped your grand am to buy a Hyundai that you swore you were gonna keep stock, then proceeded to mod until it went to sh!t (against my advice btw), now you are doing the same thing. Have fun blowing up your perfectly good corvette.

. pot meet kettle. youve got the "im older than you and ive been doing this longer so i automatically know more" syndrome. off brand headers? , dougs has been around since the 60's and do multiple headers for multiple cars. just because its not kooks or arh, or lg, its off brand? ok. and here, in florida, theres no reason to keep the cats either, so again i say, moot point

[2000 GT Coupe]

**** I have not had a t stat in the grand am since I moved to florida, temp gauge reads a steady 195-202 it takes maybe 2 miles to heat up to 180. In these "cold" winter months. And I have the fans set to kick on at 180.

[sleepyalero]

Originally Posted by 2000 GT Coupe

How long is the no cat downpipe?

If I had to guess length.... maybe 1 ft to ft and a half.. somewhere around there... it connects to the pacesetter "down pipe" then runs to cat back exhaust.




And TANNER did you miss my last post on previous page????

[xUnderCoverHoBo]

It has to be said. There's like 10-maybe 15 members who post on a regular basis

[MAC the KNIFE]

Originally Posted by GrandAmMe

Previous owner never cleaned them...ever. That **** is caked on there. I am not about to scrub them in -10 degree weather thank you very much



Haha I actually found this one on kijiji for $640. Blown engine and needed a few suspension parts. I have about 3k into it so far.

when you do feel like cleaning them, simple green or another industrial cleaner/degreaser should do it. i've even used brasso. and i use 000 very fine steel wool to clean the barrel of the wheels. you won't believe how easy they clean up.

so that sweet saab you've got... you found with a blown engine, and fixed it up? for 3k? that's... i'm speachless. i'm going on kijiji right now!


EDIT; is kijiji ebay? i've never tried it before and that's all that pops up. ebay "classifieds"

[TruGreenGAGT]

Originally Posted by MAC the KNIFE

EDIT; is kijiji ebay? i've never tried it before and that's all that pops up. ebay "classifieds"

I think it like a Canadian Craigslist

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by stewartfn18

this comment? youre the moron that assumed that no mufflers meant custom hack job.. i've got money sir, you dont need to worry about that. im not the one thats in my 30's living at home and without a job to go to school full time. bitch please, i had 2 fvcking jobs and went to school full time.

Please learn English. Then tell me what you think "stock cat-back with no mufflers" means.

And if you went to school full time, where's your degree? Oh that's right... you were working part time at Michaels and living with your mom, then you moved out into a ****ty apartment working full time at a tire store, and aren't going to school any more.

please read how thermostats work, just because it starts to open at 160 doenst mean the car is going to run at 160, no matter when your fans come on and what kind of radiator you have. youre not telling me anything i dont know already. the point of the fvcking t stat was so that it wouldnt fvcking run at 215-230. doesnt really ever get to 30* here, so that point is moot. how quickly you forget. old age is a b1tch aint it...did it ever cross your mind that they put in the t stat that they did for emissions reasons? not because it makes the most power?

God, you don't even listen. Are you that dense? Do you REALLY think you understand more about how a t-stat works than me? Yes, I know when they begin to open and close. I'll repeat it for you in big letters this time... IT DOESN'T MATTER. If you don't have enough cooling capacity and your fans don't kick on that low, it won't get that cold, so it's a stupid mod. If you didn't want it running at 215+ all you had to do was have the computer programmed to kick on the fans at 195-200 where the stock t-stat opens. There are more reasons than one that GM designs their engine to run at a certain temp as well. Emissions is just part of it, and if you knew a focking thing about engines, you'd know that emissions are affected by combustion temps as well as other things which are tied to engine temp.

And I know how cold it does and doesn't get in FL. I lived there longer than you.

. pot meet kettle. youve got the "im older than you and ive been doing this longer so i automatically know more" syndrome. off brand headers? , dougs has been around since the 60's and do multiple headers for multiple cars. just because its not kooks or arh, or lg, its off brand? ok. and here, in florida, theres no reason to keep the cats either, so again i say, moot point

They aren't a reputable brand I've ever heard of like Kooks, LG, etc. Still, it doesn't matter. You are still modding it like a broke 16 year old would, IE with no knowledge, fore thought, or logic. You're gonna be the next zuki of gagt.com. This is why a 25 y.o. shouldn't have a sports car.

[stewartfn18]

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Please learn English. Then tell me what you think "stock cat-back with no mufflers" means.

And if you went to school full time, where's your degree? Oh that's right... you were working part time at Michaels and living with your mom, then you moved out into a ****ty apartment working full time at a tire store, and aren't going to school any more. .

1.did i say went to school here?
2. did i say that i had 2 jobs here?
3. did i say i graduated with a degree? i dont need to explain myself to you and tell you why i quit and why i dont have a degree.
4. ****ty apartment? again, pot meet kettle. not like you lived in a mansion
5. my tire store pays me more than youve ever made i bet. id put money on it
6. i choose not to go to school now. i dont need it ofr what i do, and i dont plan on changing careers.

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

God, you don't even listen. Are you that dense? Do you REALLY think you understand more about how a t-stat works than me? Yes, I know when they begin to open and close. I'll repeat it for you in big letters this time... IT DOESN'T MATTER. If you don't have enough cooling capacity and your fans don't kick on that low, it won't get that cold, so it's a stupid mod. If you didn't want it running at 215+ all you had to do was have the computer programmed to kick on the fans at 195-200 where the stock t-stat opens. There are more reasons than one that GM designs their engine to run at a certain temp as well. Emissions is just part of it, and if you knew a focking thing about engines, you'd know that emissions are affected by combustion temps as well as other things which are tied to engine temp.

And I know how cold it does and doesn't get in FL. I lived there longer than you. .

youve lived here longer? . bro i was born here and was only in chicago for 10 years. you do the math. pretty sure i got ya beat there

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

They aren't a reputable brand I've ever heard of like Kooks, LG, etc. Still, it doesn't matter. You are still modding it like a broke 16 year old would, IE with no knowledge, fore thought, or logic. You're gonna be the next zuki of gagt.com. This is why a 25 y.o. shouldn't have a sports car.

oh you havent heard of them so automatially they are off brand. there goes your senoirity complex again. youre starting to sound like a crotchety old man. im done wasting my time with you. im gonna do what i want to do, and ill let my track times do the talking for what ive done with the car

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