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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Columbia, MO
Age: 29
Posts: 3,871
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SC/T
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But then again idk why I show my love for small cars since it seems like everyone here is a jackass to anything understated when it comes to cars they've never driven. Oh well, don't knock it till you try it but that won't stop you all from bitching about ST's, abarths, etc. so carry on.
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GAGT - Junkie
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Columbia, MO
Age: 29
Posts: 3,871
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SC/T
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Enjoy it while it lasts, even in that picture they don't look that clean, it ruins the vibe of your clean car to see such dirty tips. GT tips are known for getting nasty sut and sht embedded on the tips.
Also enjoy that fact you can clean your tips , with my rear lip I can only clean the inside, not the outside around them.
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Janesville, WI
Age: 30
Posts: 340
Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Sedan
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Some 0000 steel wool and mothers mag and aluminum polish does wonders on exhaust tips.
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Unknown.
Posts: 5,911
Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS
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I see it!
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 852
Vehicle: 99 GT "HYBREED"
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Detroit area, MI
Age: 43
Posts: 12,254
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr
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That's not an opinion.... it's based on solid numbers from real world testing. That is called objective comparison. I'd take a Feista ST over the Fiat 500 any day. It's a better car and better value for the money by pretty much every measure. But I'd still take a Focus ST over the Fiesta because it has better numbers. More HP, better power/weight ratio, more space etc. = better value for the money. Again, it's a pure numbers comparison. If you factor in the subjective comparisons like driving feel and fun etc, all the articles rate the Fords above the Fiat as well. The Fiat is a lot like a Mini Cooper.... people buy it because of how it looks, not for it's value. It's a fashion statement. Which is a stupid reason to buy a car.
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GAGT - Junkie
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Columbia, MO
Age: 29
Posts: 3,871
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SC/T
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I know in the end you'll take the focus seeing as the Fiesta is to small of a car for you. But out of pure driving fun the Fiesta wins all day long, just look at every major car review out there or any car review out there for that matter. I've driven both at Ford and prefer the Fiesta. The Fiesta has just enough potential to be a good powerful car like the Focus.
The Focus beats the Fiesta in power to weight by .006 Not that much of a difference considering the lower power numbers. If you consider on the comparisons Motortrend made the Fiesta isn't that much behind the focus, and for how much cheaper it costs I'd still go with the Fiesta with how close the figure 8, lateral g's etc. numbers are.
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Detroit area, MI
Age: 43
Posts: 12,254
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr
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Uh, try again.... it's a little more than .006
Straight from Car&Drivers latest lightning lap article... Quote:
Also doesn't change the fact that the Fiat is a hairdresser's/secretary's car and both Fords smack the sh!t out it on a performance and value comparison.
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Columbia, MO
Age: 29
Posts: 3,871
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SC/T
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Rochester, NY
Age: 28
Posts: 1,608
Vehicle: 00' GAGT
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People who care about cars would mod both the FiST and FoST so who cares about stock numbers.
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Detroit area, MI
Age: 43
Posts: 12,254
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr
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Anyway, further proof. The fiat lost a comparison test behind a cooper s and a fiesta which got first.http:// http://www.caranddriver.com/...omparison-test
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Columbia, MO
Age: 29
Posts: 3,871
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SC/T
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I stopped talking about the fiat after I posted it's picture 5 posts ago
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With the quickness
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: N.Brookfield ,ma
Age: 39
Posts: 2,421
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osv in progress
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lindsay, Ontario
Posts: 452
Vehicle: 2002 Alero
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Got the exhaust done a while ago...
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Unknown.
Posts: 5,911
Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS
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Yeah tim OSV
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always cuttin' up
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: TAMPA
Age: 37
Posts: 1,165
Vehicle: Red 99 GT coupe
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i like the center exits.
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GAGT - Member
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA or Canada
Posts: 65
Vehicle: 99 Grand Am SE/GT/GXP
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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What car is this going in??? A grand am? More pics!
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GAGT - Member
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 852
Vehicle: 99 GT "HYBREED"
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~Turbocharged~
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Knoxville, TN
Age: 37
Posts: 1,265
Vehicle: 99 GAGT, 07 Vette
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Have you been hiding under a rock??? He's been working on this for over 3 years.
See thread here...... http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/sh...hlight=pontiac
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