Test and Tune (11-23-2013), New P.B.

AleroB888 · 11-23-2013, 07:52 PM

M&H 8.5x23 slicks, no air filter, stock engine, custom trans, Magnuson MP90, TOG headers, 3 in. Magnaflow exhaust, no resonator, MSD ignition, LS1 MAF, Racetronix pump, HP Tuners, TCE 68mm TB, 36 lb Injectors
Ambient air: 46-54 degrees F.

MAC the KNIFE · 11-23-2013, 08:39 PM

That's very impressive! what kind of whp level are you at now?

DaRkWaVe · 11-24-2013, 04:58 AM

Outstanding

mfuller · 11-24-2013, 06:24 AM

Very nice.
Good job.

3800L67GAM · 11-24-2013, 07:58 PM

Nice you're almost up there with my dads nova but he runs low 12s now. Did you get any videos?

young gun · 11-24-2013, 08:09 PM

Sweet '60 time

I thought you were running a methanol injection?

H.O. Driver · 11-25-2013, 01:43 PM

Nice numbers, that combo is working great, still a stock valve spring too?

AleroB888 · 11-27-2013, 10:25 PM

Best guess is 250-270 whp, I should dyno it. No vids on those runs.
No methanol injection yet, maybe next time. Stock valve springs and internals...in fact, I think one valve has been bent the last few years, so that's actually less than stock quality. I was pushing it to run a 12.xxx with no intercooler, which it did, finally.

H.O. Driver · 11-28-2013, 06:43 AM

you rip some good 60ft times, is that a stop suspension car too? Still an impressive job, I am sure if you did a good cam, better valve train, intercooler, heads and intake manifolds you could bust out some 11s. What Gen M90 is on there? I know the Gen V M90s ran cooler outlet temps than the older models.

Slinky · 11-28-2013, 08:17 AM

How much boost did it take to run 11's?
And that's a 3400 correct ?

sassyness77 · 11-28-2013, 03:56 PM

I believe it actually is an MP90. Not the m90 found on 3800's.

AaronGTR · 11-28-2013, 05:24 PM

I still think it's weird your mph is so low for that ET. It's about .8 sec faster than my ET, but almost the same mph. Getting up to speed faster with a quicker 60' cuts a lot off the ET, but should also give you more time to accelerate in the top end. It's hard to figure out... oh well. Still nice times!

MMGT1 · 11-28-2013, 09:29 PM

I think hes shifting too low, but if hes on stock valve springs he cant go higher. He's still delivering 275tq at 6K shifts. I'd like to see his trap if he could shift at 64-6600

AaronGTR · 11-29-2013, 01:00 PM

I don't think that's it. I was shifting at 6100 on my runs. Could be differences in tire sizes, but I still shift into 3rd a good ways before the line because 2nd only goes up to a little over 80mph, so he's got to be in 3rd also to hit the line at 104. Like I said, it's strange.

H.O. Driver · 11-29-2013, 02:10 PM

It is that 60 ft, every .1 you shave off the 60ft cuts off .2 in the big end. His 60fts are about .3-.4 better consitantly than yours Aaron? Granted he is on a slick and you were on a street tire right?

I figured the MP was different but I know they have changed the rotors some and coated them differently to not make so much heat. I don't know if GenV rotors could replace the MP90 rotors, maybe squeek a little more out of her.

11-23-2013, 07:52 PM	#1
AleroB888 not this alero AKA: Greg Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fort Knox area, KY Age: 69 Posts: 1,300 Vehicle: 1999 Alero V6	Test and Tune (11-23-2013), New P.B. M&H 8.5x23 slicks, no air filter, stock engine, custom trans, Magnuson MP90, TOG headers, 3 in. Magnaflow exhaust, no resonator, MSD ignition, LS1 MAF, Racetronix pump, HP Tuners, TCE 68mm TB, 36 lb Injectors Ambient air: 46-54 degrees F. __________________ 1999 GLS MP90 supercharged / 2003 GL MP62 supercharged / 2004 GLS stock Magnuson MP90 / TOG's / 3 in. Magnaflow exhaust / MSD ignition / LS1 MAF / Racetronix pump / HP Tuners / TCE 68mm TB / 36 lb Inj = Best track time: 12.951 @ 104.48, 1.839 60 ft. (Beech Bend Raceway Park, 11-23-13), 50 Deg. F http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpVYZPbpPzk Last edited by AleroB888; 12-07-2013 at 05:46 PM.

11-23-2013, 08:39 PM	#2
MAC the KNIFE always cuttin' up AKA: MAC Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: TAMPA Age: 35 Posts: 1,165 Vehicle: Red 99 GT coupe	That's very impressive! what kind of whp level are you at now? __________________ 2009 G8 gt no more Big Gears, buh-bye coilovers... illusions of making this a racecar have passed. 12.78 @112.. not a bad grocery getter -still LOUD AS FCK though 2006 GTO completely stock. rip at 39k. 99 GAGT 108k miles, Borla cat-back, CAI, 65mm TB, EGR delete, WOT-tech intakes, F-Body Brakes w/ Hawk HPS pads. Suede headliner, heated seats, jvc HU, infinity speakers+amp+subs, LEDs -probably less than 1000 miles on it in the last 3 years...

11-24-2013, 06:24 AM	#4
mfuller Mr. Common Sense AKA: Matt Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Loves Park, IL USA Age: 44 Posts: 2,028 Vehicle: 2000 Alero GLS sedan	Very nice. Good job. __________________ Matt - Resident brake and suspension guru Also, your friendly Performance and Technical Moderator *Please don't tailgate, text and drive, drink and drive, or otherwise act like an asshat.* Currently without an engine, Quaife LSD-equipped F40, a few suspension and brake bits, and a partridge in a pear tree.

11-24-2013, 08:09 PM	#6
young gun ON THAT WORK GRIND AKA: Erik Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Age: 26 Posts: 1,591 Vehicle: 00' GAGT	Sweet '60 time I thought you were running a methanol injection? __________________ 2000 - GAGT 14.63@92.9 -Full LX9 with CAI, 65MM TB, 2.5in DP, Borla Cat-Back, Crappy rubber, Magic, Quick tune) 2008 - Kawasaki Ninja 250r - Slip on exhaust, K&N, Jetted, Sprockets, Lowered and the Girlfriend's now 1984 - Honda Nighthawk 700s - Oldest, quickest and quietess

11-25-2013, 01:43 PM	#7
H.O. Driver I drive a V6 H.O. AKA: Timmah! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boyne City, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,694 Vehicle: 99 GT, 03 DTS, 04 SRX	Nice numbers, that combo is working great, still a stock valve spring too? __________________ 1999 GA GT - lots of mods - Sold and missing it... 2001 GP GTP Special Edtion - Sold 2002 T/A - T-Tops, AT, LS6 intake, mainly stock - Sold 2003 Cadillac DTS - Gangsta Grandpa car - Gone 2004 Cadillac SRX - Baby hauler -Sold and missing it Life is too short to drive boring cars....why is that all I have now??????

11-24-2013, 04:58 AM	#3
DaRkWaVe GAGT - Member AKA: Connor Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 121 Vehicle: 2000 GAGT Coupe	Outstanding

11-24-2013, 07:58 PM	#5
3800L67GAM PostingLike An L32SC AKA: ERIC Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 540 Vehicle: 99 grand am se black	Nice you're almost up there with my dads nova but he runs low 12s now. Did you get any videos?

11-27-2013, 10:25 PM	#8
AleroB888 not this alero AKA: Greg Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fort Knox area, KY Age: 69 Posts: 1,300 Vehicle: 1999 Alero V6	Best guess is 250-270 whp, I should dyno it. No vids on those runs. No methanol injection yet, maybe next time. Stock valve springs and internals...in fact, I think one valve has been bent the last few years, so that's actually less than stock quality. I was pushing it to run a 12.xxx with no intercooler, which it did, finally. __________________ 1999 GLS MP90 supercharged / 2003 GL MP62 supercharged / 2004 GLS stock Magnuson MP90 / TOG's / 3 in. Magnaflow exhaust / MSD ignition / LS1 MAF / Racetronix pump / HP Tuners / TCE 68mm TB / 36 lb Inj = Best track time: 12.951 @ 104.48, 1.839 60 ft. (Beech Bend Raceway Park, 11-23-13), 50 Deg. F http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpVYZPbpPzk

11-28-2013, 06:43 AM	#9
H.O. Driver I drive a V6 H.O. AKA: Timmah! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boyne City, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,694 Vehicle: 99 GT, 03 DTS, 04 SRX	you rip some good 60ft times, is that a stop suspension car too? Still an impressive job, I am sure if you did a good cam, better valve train, intercooler, heads and intake manifolds you could bust out some 11s. What Gen M90 is on there? I know the Gen V M90s ran cooler outlet temps than the older models. __________________ 1999 GA GT - lots of mods - Sold and missing it... 2001 GP GTP Special Edtion - Sold 2002 T/A - T-Tops, AT, LS6 intake, mainly stock - Sold 2003 Cadillac DTS - Gangsta Grandpa car - Gone 2004 Cadillac SRX - Baby hauler -Sold and missing it Life is too short to drive boring cars....why is that all I have now??????

11-28-2013, 08:17 AM	#10
Slinky GAGT - Member AKA: Tyler Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: mp pa Posts: 126 Vehicle: 1995 beretta z26 3400	How much boost did it take to run 11's? And that's a 3400 correct ?

11-28-2013, 03:56 PM	#11
sassyness77 GAGT - Member AKA: Richie Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: USA or Canada Posts: 65 Vehicle: 99 Grand Am SE/GT/GXP	I believe it actually is an MP90. Not the m90 found on 3800's.

11-28-2013, 05:24 PM	#12
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 40 Posts: 12,239 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	I still think it's weird your mph is so low for that ET. It's about .8 sec faster than my ET, but almost the same mph. Getting up to speed faster with a quicker 60' cuts a lot off the ET, but should also give you more time to accelerate in the top end. It's hard to figure out... oh well. Still nice times! __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

11-28-2013, 09:29 PM	#13
MMGT1 GAGT - Member AKA: Paul Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada Age: 47 Posts: 347 Vehicle: 2000 Firebird TA WS6	I think hes shifting too low, but if hes on stock valve springs he cant go higher. He's still delivering 275tq at 6K shifts. I'd like to see his trap if he could shift at 64-6600

11-29-2013, 01:00 PM	#14
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 40 Posts: 12,239 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	I don't think that's it. I was shifting at 6100 on my runs. Could be differences in tire sizes, but I still shift into 3rd a good ways before the line because 2nd only goes up to a little over 80mph, so he's got to be in 3rd also to hit the line at 104. Like I said, it's strange. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

11-29-2013, 02:10 PM	#15
H.O. Driver I drive a V6 H.O. AKA: Timmah! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boyne City, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,694 Vehicle: 99 GT, 03 DTS, 04 SRX	It is that 60 ft, every .1 you shave off the 60ft cuts off .2 in the big end. His 60fts are about .3-.4 better consitantly than yours Aaron? Granted he is on a slick and you were on a street tire right? I figured the MP was different but I know they have changed the rotors some and coated them differently to not make so much heat. I don't know if GenV rotors could replace the MP90 rotors, maybe squeek a little more out of her. __________________ 1999 GA GT - lots of mods - Sold and missing it... 2001 GP GTP Special Edtion - Sold 2002 T/A - T-Tops, AT, LS6 intake, mainly stock - Sold 2003 Cadillac DTS - Gangsta Grandpa car - Gone 2004 Cadillac SRX - Baby hauler -Sold and missing it Life is too short to drive boring cars....why is that all I have now?????? Last edited by H.O. Driver; 11-29-2013 at 02:13 PM.

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